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CIT, what's the next step?
Topic Started: Apr 16 2008, 10:52 AM (4,027 Views)
sevon	Apr 16 2008, 10:52 AM Post #1
Posts: 408 Group: BANNED! Member #256 Joined: 02/01/08	CIT has a big presence on this board...an average of 17.4 posts per day from the 3 of them alone. I know we don't all see eye-to-eye or agree on everything, but I think this is a relevant question. CIT - what's the plan, here? Clearly you're not going to be able to convince many skeptics with your theory. You guys spend a lot of time defending your theories here, but for what? Are you waiting until just the right moment to take your evidence to the right news media outlet or investigator? Is there some other piece of evidence you're holding on to until just the right moment? This is a serious question...you guys are clearly convinced that you've got solid proof...so what's next? What are you doing with it other than posting on message boards?
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Domenick DiMaggio	Apr 16 2008, 11:34 AM Post #2
Posts: 2,226 Group: BANNED! Member #22 Joined: 01/14/08	I have no interest in disclosing any information regarding my Shanksville work at this time because I know you and your JREF buddies will attempt to sabotage it. You're on a need to know basis and you don't need to know shit with your Bush supporting neonazicon JREF puppets. So go pound it Sevon.
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sevon	Apr 16 2008, 11:43 AM Post #3
Posts: 408 Group: BANNED! Member #256 Joined: 02/01/08	Domenick DiMaggio CIT Apr 16 2008, 11:34 AM I have no interest in disclosing any information regarding my Shanksville work at this time because I know you and your JREF buddies will attempt to sabotage it. You're on a need to know basis and you don't need to know shit with your Bush supporting neonazicon JREF puppets. So go pound it Sevon. I'm not talking about Shanksville...I'm talking about NOC/Flyover, etc. Do you honestly think that me or someone from JREF could destroy your case if you actually have hard evidence? BTW - I'm not a Bush supporter.
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SPreston	Apr 16 2008, 11:45 AM Post #4
Patriotic American Posts: 1,229 Group: Members Member #122 Joined: 01/18/08	sevon CIT has a big presence on this board...an average of 17.4 posts per day from the 3 of them alone. I know we don't all see eye-to-eye or agree on everything, but I think this is a relevant question. CIT - what's the plan, here? Clearly you're not going to be able to convince many skeptics with your theory. You guys spend a lot of time defending your theories here, but for what? Are you waiting until just the right moment to take your evidence to the right news media outlet or investigator? Is there some other piece of evidence you're holding on to until just the right moment? This is a serious question...you guys are clearly convinced that you've got solid proof...so what's next? What are you doing with it other than posting on message boards? If you were a Patriotic American, what would you do with it? Obviously you are not a Patriotic American because you are STILL stuck in your sore loser mode. The decoy aircraft multiple witnessed and proven over the Navy Annex makes your official flight path through the light poles impossible. The aircraft which was supposed to be the official Flight 77 driven by Hani Hanjour was caught far out of position and cannot possibly survive the two high G turns necessary to get back into position. What are you going to do with it? Continue to support the now proven traitorous perpetrators of 9-11? Exactly why would you STILL continue to support traitors? Can you explain that? Is there some logical reason why you would not support your fellow Americans? What is your next step? Suicide?



Craig Ranke CIT	Apr 16 2008, 12:07 PM Post #5
Posts: 1,556 Group: Members Member #14 Joined: 01/14/08	We will continue to dig up more and more evidence while putting pressure on authorities both local and federal and media both alternative and mainstream to acknowledge and do something about this critical information proving the war on terror a fraud.
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Domenick DiMaggio	Apr 16 2008, 12:13 PM Post #6
Posts: 2,226 Group: BANNED! Member #22 Joined: 01/14/08	sevon Apr 16 2008, 11:43 AM I'm not talking about Shanksville...I'm talking about NOC/Flyover, etc. Do you honestly think that me or someone from JREF could destroy your case if you actually have hard evidence? BTW - I'm not a Bush supporter. Destroy my case? Absolutely not. Interfere (in large quantities)with people I am working with behind the scenes and persuade them to disassociate with what I am doing? Absolutely. BTW - I don't believe you. Bush supporters know Bush Administration lied about WMD's, Domestic Spying, Secret CIA Prisons, Abu Ghraib, Pat Tillman, Jessica Lynch, Torture, Destruction of Bill of Rights, Patriot Act use, etc. Already knowing all of that those who don't support Bush have a real easy time being open to 9/11 Truth in 2008. You know why? Because without 9/11 Bush wouldn't have been able to do anything his administration has done over the last 7 years.
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sevon	Apr 16 2008, 12:18 PM Post #7
Posts: 408 Group: BANNED! Member #256 Joined: 02/01/08	SPreston Apr 16 2008, 11:45 AM If you were a Patriotic American, what would you do with it? Obviously you are not a Patriotic American because you are STILL stuck in your sore loser mode So are you a patriotic american? What are you doing about all of this besides debating on internet message boards? Craig Ranke CIT We will continue to dig up more and more evidence while putting pressure on authorities both local and federal and media both alternative and mainstream to acknowledge and do something about this critical information proving the war on terror a fraud. Have you taken any of this to any local or federal authorities or the mainstream media? When do you plan to do so? Domenick DiMaggio CIT BTW - I don't believe you. Bush supporters know Bush Administration lied about WMD's, Domestic Spying, Secret CIA Prisons, Abu Ghraib, Pat Tillman, Jessica Lynch, Torture, Destruction of Bill of Rights, Patriot Act use, etc. Believing that Al-queda was behind 9/11 does not make someone a "Bush Supporter".
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Craig Ranke CIT	Apr 16 2008, 12:23 PM Post #8
Posts: 1,556 Group: Members Member #14 Joined: 01/14/08	sevon Apr 16 2008, 12:18 PM Have you taken any of this to any local or federal authorities or the mainstream media? When do you plan to do so? Yes we absolutely have to all of the above and we will absolutely continue to approach them and additional agencies and media outlets until they pay attention. Their lack of response has nothing to do with the validity of the evidence. oh btw Ron Weik/poopooroo of Hardlyfire is a pathetic liar for continuously stating that we have said we never would. Notice how he NEVER quotes us while shamefully and desperately spreading that lie about us over and over.
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Craig Ranke CIT	Apr 16 2008, 12:29 PM Post #9
Posts: 1,556 Group: Members Member #14 Joined: 01/14/08	Of course this very thread is a subconscious admission on your part that what we have is valid. It's a sign that your defense of your unadulterated faith in the OCT is beaten down. You secretly want closure as we do but are afraid to admit it. You want this information to be acknowledged and addressed because you can no longer effectively address it. Edited by Craig Ranke CIT, Apr 16 2008, 12:29 PM.
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sevon	Apr 16 2008, 12:30 PM Post #10
Posts: 408 Group: BANNED! Member #256 Joined: 02/01/08	Craig Ranke CIT Apr 16 2008, 12:23 PM sevon Apr 16 2008, 12:18 PM Have you taken any of this to any local or federal authorities or the mainstream media? When do you plan to do so? Yes we absolutely have to all of the above and we will absolutely continue to approach them and additional agencies and media outlets until they pay attention. Their lack of response has nothing to do with the validity of the evidence. oh btw Ron Weik/poopooroo of Hardlyfire is a pathetic liar for continuously stating that we have said we never would. Notice how he NEVER quotes us while shamefully and desperately spreading that lie about us over and over. Could you name the agencies & mainstream media outlets you've presented this evidence to? Thanks in advance. Edited by sevon, Apr 16 2008, 12:30 PM.
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Domenick DiMaggio	Apr 16 2008, 12:33 PM Post #11
Posts: 2,226 Group: BANNED! Member #22 Joined: 01/14/08	sevon Apr 16 2008, 12:18 PM SPreston Apr 16 2008, 11:45 AM If you were a Patriotic American, what would you do with it? Obviously you are not a Patriotic American because you are STILL stuck in your sore loser mode So are you a patriotic american? What are you doing about all of this besides debating on internet message boards? Craig Ranke CIT We will continue to dig up more and more evidence while putting pressure on authorities both local and federal and media both alternative and mainstream to acknowledge and do something about this critical information proving the war on terror a fraud. Have you taken any of this to any local or federal authorities or the mainstream media? When do you plan to do so? Domenick DiMaggio CIT BTW - I don't believe you. Bush supporters know Bush Administration lied about WMD's, Domestic Spying, Secret CIA Prisons, Abu Ghraib, Pat Tillman, Jessica Lynch, Torture, Destruction of Bill of Rights, Patriot Act use, etc. Believing that Al-queda was behind 9/11 does not make someone a "Bush Supporter". Do you not know "The Base" is the database the CIA had of all it's Muhajideen freedom fighters listed in? Al Qaeda is CIA. I never said there wasn't any "Al Qaeda" involvement. Q: Did Bush lie about WMD's, Domestic Spying, Secret CIA Prisons, Abu Ghraib, Pat Tillman, Jessica Lynch, Torture, Destruction of Bill of Rights, Patriot Act use, etc? If yes, then how do you know the Administration isn't lying about 9/11? If no, please provide proof that I am in error.
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Domenick DiMaggio	Apr 16 2008, 12:35 PM Post #12
Posts: 2,226 Group: BANNED! Member #22 Joined: 01/14/08	sevon Apr 16 2008, 12:30 PM Could you name the agencies & mainstream media outlets you've presented this evidence to? Thanks in advance. Why do you care Sevon? Is it because you and your JREF buddies want to contact them in an attempt to discredit CIT with stupid little drawing like your bogus "Jews did it" Flight path you neonazicons posted in the sewer you call home and try to attribute it to CIT? Is the collective JREF hand up your ass moving your mouth for you?
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Craig Ranke CIT	Apr 16 2008, 12:38 PM Post #13
Posts: 1,556 Group: Members Member #14 Joined: 01/14/08	sevon Apr 16 2008, 12:30 PM Could you name the agencies & mainstream media outlets you've presented this evidence to? Thanks in advance. Why should I? There are plenty enough lying, hypocritical, deceitful, intellectually dishonest, pseudoskeptics out there who would do anything to sabotage our efforts. I am not accountable to you. I have answered your question and it should suffice. You have no reason to not believe me. What difference would it make to list all the specific government agencies and media outlets? You going to call them all to verify my claim? Do you really think they would tell you? Give me a break. We have and we will continue to approach them with this critical information and NOBODY can tell us that we haven't or that we won't. Perhaps one day we'll release a short with documentation of the agencies who fail to respond and therefore the ones who implicate THEMSELVES in obstruction of justice by their inaction. This is the type of pressure we plan to put on them and is EXACTLY where CIT goes from here. And you can take that to the bank.
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sevon	Apr 16 2008, 01:33 PM Post #14
Posts: 408 Group: BANNED! Member #256 Joined: 02/01/08	Craig Ranke CIT Apr 16 2008, 12:38 PM sevon Apr 16 2008, 12:30 PM Could you name the agencies & mainstream media outlets you've presented this evidence to? Thanks in advance. Why should I? Because you made a claim, and have been asked to back it up. If the people you've presented this evidence to are failing to respond, then why WOULDN'T you list them? Craig Ranke CIT There are plenty enough lying, hypocritical, deceitful, intellectually dishonest, pseudoskeptics out there who would do anything to sabotage our efforts. How is listing the people you've talked to going to jeopardize your efforts? Craig Ranke CIT I am not accountable to you. I have answered your question and it should suffice. You have no reason to not believe me. The burden of proof is on you.
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Craig Ranke CIT	Apr 16 2008, 01:37 PM Post #15
Posts: 1,556 Group: Members Member #14 Joined: 01/14/08	sevon Apr 16 2008, 01:33 PM The burden of proof is on you. No it is not. I am not accountable to you nor do I care if you believe me or not. I answered your question and you can take it or leave it. We have approached media and authorities and we will continue to. Furthermore your idiot colleague poopooroo at jref straight up LIES continuously while claiming that we specifically said we wouldn't. He will never find the quote because we never said it. Do you think he will retract the lie if he doesn't find the quote? I bet he won't.
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Domenick DiMaggio	Apr 16 2008, 01:38 PM Post #16
Posts: 2,226 Group: BANNED! Member #22 Joined: 01/14/08	sevon Apr 16 2008, 01:33 PM How is listing the people you've talked to going to jeopardize your efforts? I've already answered how twice in this thread.
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sevon	Apr 16 2008, 01:58 PM Post #17
Posts: 408 Group: BANNED! Member #256 Joined: 02/01/08	Craig Ranke CIT Apr 16 2008, 01:37 PM We have approached media and authorities and we will continue to. No you haven't. If you had you would be able to provide some names. Craig Ranke CIT Do you think he will retract the lie if he doesn't find the quote? I bet he won't. I bet he would retract it if you provided the documentation I requested above. But we all know you can't provide it if it doesn't exist. Edited by sevon, Apr 16 2008, 01:59 PM.
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Craig Ranke CIT	Apr 16 2008, 02:37 PM Post #18
Posts: 1,556 Group: Members Member #14 Joined: 01/14/08	sevon Apr 16 2008, 01:58 PM No you haven't. If you had you would be able to provide some names. You are now calling me a liar with zero evidence to back up your claim. YOU asked a question and I answered it. You can choose not to believe it but you have no evidence to demonstrate it false showing that your accusation is purely faith based and unwarranted. Quote: I bet he would retract it if you provided the documentation I requested above. But we all know you can't provide it if it doesn't exist. HE made the specific false claim that we SAID that we would not contact them. He provides no evidence to back this up. I know that this evidence doesn't exist because we never made the claim and he is lying.
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sevon	Apr 16 2008, 02:46 PM Post #19
Posts: 408 Group: BANNED! Member #256 Joined: 02/01/08	Craig Ranke CIT sevon Apr 16 2008, 01:58 PM No you haven't. If you had you would be able to provide some names. You are now calling me a liar with zero evidence to back up your claim. No one has any reason to believe your claim to be true if you are unwilling to provide any evidence that it is true. Craig Ranke CIT You can choose not to believe it but you have no evidence to demonstrate it false showing that your accusation is purely faith based and unwarranted. It's YOUR claim. It is not accepted to be true by default, you have to prove that it's true, otherwise it's just an empty claim.
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JFK	Apr 16 2008, 02:52 PM Post #20
Posts: 4,822 Group: Admins Member #108 Joined: 01/17/08	Ya know sevon, it is too bad that you do not apply that logic to how the government and media portrayed the events of 911 to American public . If you did you would probably not blindly follow them as you now are.
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sevon	Apr 16 2008, 02:58 PM Post #21
Posts: 408 Group: BANNED! Member #256 Joined: 02/01/08	JFK Apr 16 2008, 02:52 PM Ya know sevon, it is too bad that you do not apply that logic to how the government and media portrayed the events of 911 to American public . If you did you would probably not blindly follow them as you now are. The government and the media provide sources and data to back up the claims that they make. They don't just expect everyone to believe something because they say it. I'm simply asking Craig to prove his claim that he actually talked to the MSM or to state/federal authorities as he claims to have done. "Blindly following" would be believing Craig's claims without any evidence to back them up.
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JFK	Apr 16 2008, 03:03 PM Post #22
Posts: 4,822 Group: Admins Member #108 Joined: 01/17/08	Correct, just as "blindly following" would be believing what the MSM has portrayed to the public. Or did you personally ask the MSM for evidence ?
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Craig Ranke CIT	Apr 16 2008, 03:03 PM Post #23
Posts: 1,556 Group: Members Member #14 Joined: 01/14/08	I asserted no claims at all in this regard. You asked a question that I answered. You have no right to accuse me of lying unless you can prove it. I have no inclination to PROVE to YOU that I answered YOUR question truthfully.
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sevon	Apr 16 2008, 03:10 PM Post #24
Posts: 408 Group: BANNED! Member #256 Joined: 02/01/08	Craig Ranke CIT Apr 16 2008, 03:03 PM I asserted no claims at all in this regard. You asked a question that I answered. Your claim Yes we absolutely have to all of the above and we will absolutely continue to approach them and additional agencies and media outlets until they pay attention. That was your claim. Evidence supporting that claim: None Craig Ranke CIT You have no right to accuse me of lying unless you can prove it. You have no reason to expect anyone to believe your claim unless you can prove it. You claimed you contacted these agencies...prove it. Craig Ranke CIT I have no inclination to PROVE to YOU that I answered YOUR question truthfully. You're under no obligation to provide any evidence unless you want to convince me & others that you aren't lying.
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Craig Ranke CIT	Apr 16 2008, 04:32 PM Post #25
Posts: 1,556 Group: Members Member #14 Joined: 01/14/08	It is YOUR assertion that I am lying. Prove it.
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