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| 14 Structural Engineers Now Publicly Challenge | |
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| Topic Started: Apr 13 2008, 08:01 PM (332 Views) | |
| blarney fife | Apr 13 2008, 08:01 PM Post #1 |
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14 Structural Engineers Now Publicly Challenge Government's Explanation for Destruction of the World Trade Center http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2008/04/14-structural-engineers-have-now.html |
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| RKOwens4 | Apr 24 2008, 12:38 AM Post #2 |
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Only 14 out of several million practicing or teaching structural engineers worldwide support the World Trade Center controlled demolition theory? And you're proud of that? That's TERRIBLE. Not trying to be offensive. When I was still in college I would debate with Creationists and one of them once showed be a book called something like, "40 scientists who believe in Creationism". But there are millions and millions of scientists in the world. We're always going to have the 1 in 1,000 historians who denies the Holocaust, or the 1 in 1,000 scientists who denies evolution/believes in Creationism. I haven't kept up with the whole evolution/creationism debate since I graduated, but the last year I was there, a study showed that about 1 in 685 geologists believed that the earth was 6,000 years old (as the bible says). When 9 people believe one thing, and 1 believes something different, what does that mean? Does it mean the 9 are wrong? Of course not. I knew there were many structural engineers like Steven Jones and Richard Gage who supported 9/11 conspiracy theories, but I figured the ratio of those who support the demolition theory to those who don't would be something like 1 in 685 or 1 in 1,000. There are 135,000 structural engineers in the American Society of Civil Engineers, probably an equivalent number of engineering professors at universities like Steven Jones, and many more who have degrees in structural engineering but never worked a day in their life as an engineer (like 9/11 "expert" Jeff King). Say, 500,000 in America as a rough figure. America is 5% of the world population. That leaves us with about 10,000,000 structural engineers in the world. It would be sad if there were only 1 in 685 engineers who support your theories, but the actual number is something like 1 in 1,000,000! That's just embarassing. |
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| Headspin | Apr 24 2008, 04:16 AM Post #3 |
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Conflating humanities theories with scientific study is not helpful, but it is clear why you do it. There are very few people (scientists included) who have read the 10,000 page NIST report, but this is interesting:  http://www.ucsusa.org/news/press_release/10600-scientists-condemn.html http://www.rawstory.com/news/mochila/EPA_scientists_complain_about_polit_04232008.html |
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| Miragememories | Apr 24 2008, 07:40 AM Post #4 |
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Another favourite tactic of the disingenuous skeptic; subtract the few vocal experts from the total, and therefore imply that the remaining silent majority stand in disagreement. Proud? Another sign of the disingenuous skeptic. The idea that seeking the truth about 9/11 is something we do out of pride. pride: a feeling or deep pleasure or satisfaction derived from one's own achievements We do this out of respect for something we believe is extremely important! And yes, in spite of your shallow denial, you are trying your best to be offensive RKOwens4. So how do you attempt to invalidate the vocal few? You dig up a comparison to scientists who supported absurd beliefs like "creationism" and "holocaust denial". The structural engineers challenging the Official Story are questioning an event that occurred only a few years ago and are doing so with a reasoned and scientifically researched justification to support their call for a proper investigation. To quote RKOwens4, "When 9 people believe one thing, and 1 believes something different, what does that mean?" Belief in itself is meaningless. The basis of the belief is what counts. It's necessary to examine the basis for the 9 people believing one thing and your reasons for believing something different. But you are perpetuating the lie by assumption. This lie; "It would be sad if there were only 1 in 685 engineers who support your theories, but the actual number is something like 1 in 1,000,000! That's just embarassing." You have no numbers to back up such a powerful statement! Again RKOwens4 you are assuming and stating as fact, that the silent majority is actually in agreement with the Official Story. MM |
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| SPreston | Apr 24 2008, 09:10 AM Post #5 |
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Several million? Are you certain of that figure? An extreme exaggeration from a desperate DENIER? Are you including Eskimo structural engineers who build igloos or African structural engineers who build mud huts? Are you certain all of your several million practicing or teaching structural engineers worldwide are actually familiar with the evidence of the demolition of the WTC towers? How do you know for certain what the remaining 1,999,986 structural engineers believe about the World Trade Center controlled demolition? Have you polled each and every one of them? Have they all returned your questionaire? How many were unsigned or unreturned because the structural engineers fear their government? How many do you think would risk their necks and their families and their jobs to a Regime which has proven that it will seek revenge against its detractors? A Regime which will knife its own nuclear deproliferation covert agents in the back will seek revenge against anyone it deems a danger. Yes even you if you get your lines wrong. "When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." ~ Thomas Jefferson p1801-1809 "Government is not reason. It is not eloquence. It is a force, like fire: a dangerous servant and a terrible master". ~ George Washington p1789-1797 Did you overlook these guys? Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth Or these? Engineers and Architects Question the 9/11 Commission Report Did these guys get a questionaire from you? Or are you a mind reader from the JREF Foundation of Illusionists and just know what these professionals believe? |
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| Lidane | Apr 25 2008, 02:13 AM Post #6 |
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RKOwens4 is a psychic mind reader, and hence knows exactly what every engineer in the world is thinking at any given moment. you know, kind of like God. 
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| Christophera | May 3 2008, 04:17 AM Post #7 |
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And if we suddenly knew ALL of the deceptions of the official account of "what happened to what", how many would we find we missed and were those the ones that kept us from finding the truth, with the meaning of protectiing our futures, our rights and freedoms, our democracy? Edit By JFK - fixed butchered quoting. @ Christophera, Use the preview button. Edited by JFK, May 3 2008, 06:29 AM.
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| Illuminate | May 5 2008, 07:37 AM Post #8 |
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Are these mud huts? 
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| SPreston | May 5 2008, 08:25 AM Post #9 |
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How the hell should I know how you government loyalists view those engineered structures with your government issue blinders on? For all I know, you fanatical defenders of the status quo see these engineered structures as steel skyscrapers.   . . 
Edited by SPreston, May 5 2008, 08:27 AM.
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