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Did "The US Air Force Shot Down Flight 93" ?; real or prank anonymous post on GW blog
Topic Started: Apr 12 2008, 05:42 PM (518 Views)
mynameis	Apr 12 2008, 05:42 PM Post #1
Internet Jujitsu Posts: 1,567 Group: Members Member #50 Joined: 01/15/08	"The US Air Force Shot Down Flight 93" George Washington's Blog Saturday, April 12, 2008 The following comment was posted to my blog today (I do not know who the author is -- he posted semi-anonymously; so decide for yourself whether or not you believe him): "I am an Air Force veteran. I was serving at Langley AFB, Virginia on Sept. 11. (not to be confused with CIA headquarters at Langley, VA). The "Alert Squadron" of 4 F-16 Falcons also stationed at Langley AFB was scrambled AFTER the "plane" crashed into the Pentagon. Because of my position as a ground equipment mechanic, I had access to the flightline operations that day. My friends were Crew Cheifs and Weapons Loaders, among other professions on the flightline that day. One of my [unusual] duties that day was to drive a Loader (personal friend) along with a rack of live missiles (AIM-9's and AIM-120's) across the active runway to the Alert Squadron and drop them off. I was towing equipment to the flightline, so when it was time to go back and pick up the Loader (and our missile trailer) I was unable to do so, but another member of my Flight (a good friend, and later roommate) did go. According to my roommate (and I later confirmed with the Loader) the Loader was completely silent most of the trip back to our side of the base, after they crossed the active, he spoke. "They shot one down." JJ replied "WHAT?" Loader:"One of those 16's came back with one less missile than it left with" That was all. As they pulled back in to the squadron area, The loader was whisked away by his commanders for debriefing. I didn't see him for a few days, but when I did, he said he couldn't talk about it, but he confirmed that what my roommate had told me was true. The US Air Force shot down Flight 93. I haven't told this to many people. I told my parents and other family members shortly after I left the military. They didn't believe it. I figured no one else would either. I kept my mouth shut. Everyone was dedicated to the president and the country (not really) And anything that went against the Official, media delivered story was viewed as unpatriotic. I knew that I loved this country, so I kept my mouth shut. I just can't do that anymore. I know that I don't have any documents to prove it, and I have no way of knowing where the others involved are now days, so I can't prove anything. All I have is my word. and with God as my witness that is the truth." http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/ Edited by mynameis, Apr 12 2008, 05:44 PM.



Domenick DiMaggio	Apr 12 2008, 08:25 PM Post #2
Posts: 2,006 Group: Members Member #22 Joined: 01/14/08	He's anonymous. I've been told the same from people who would be in position to know but refuse to attach their name to it. so take it for what it is an anonymous posting on an internet blog most likely intended to cause a stir. I'm still very open on possibilities in Shanksville despite what I've been told off the record. Edited by Domenick DiMaggio, Apr 12 2008, 08:25 PM.
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Andoo Inc.	Apr 13 2008, 02:03 AM Post #3
Sir finds a lot Posts: 551 Group: Members Member #42 Joined: 01/15/08	if they came forward, half the nation might just stand up.



Killtown	Apr 13 2008, 01:12 PM Post #4
Childish Hypocrite Posts: 701 Group: BANNED! Member #208 Joined: 01/24/08	That person posted at 911m back in Feb: Quote: anymouse Posted: Feb 9 2008, 01:49 AM I have reason to believe it was shot down by a AIM9F sidewinder fired from an F16 out of DCANG. I saw it take off prior to, and saw it return WITHOUT the sidewinder afterwards. http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=1731&view=findpost&p=14936477 ------------------------- anymouse Posted: Feb 9 2008, 06:48 PM I do not know what the target was, only that a sidewinder missile was fired during that brief time frame. I was there. I commented on this at the time to my other military co-workers when I saw the plane land. I used to load these and they have to be shot off or manually offloaded, no jettison capability. Since I saw it as it landed, they couldn't have offloaded it above ground, duh. It could have missed, been shot at something else, etc. but it was shot. And it was shot during the brief time between the time we knew of flt 93 and the time of the breaking news it crashed. http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=1731&view=findpost&p=14937418 ------------------------ anymouse Posted: Feb 9 2008, 11:57 PM Thanks. I retired a couple of years later, but it has always bothered me. We were stationed about 25 mins away for a fighter from Shanksville. You can't shoot a 'winder at something that doesn't have a heat signature, like trees, it's a heat seeker. I have no idea where the bird went, only that it did, and it only took about an hour or so to get there and back. That crater wasn't from a missile, not even a 500 pounder makes a nice small, deep, hole like that. But having been on an emergency reclaimation and salvage team immediately after aircraft crashes, I can tell you it was NOT created by an aircraft either. Same thing with the 5 sided puzzle palace. Where are the wings? THEY ALWAYS RIP OFF ON IMPACT and are usually found in large pieces at least somewhat near the impact zone. And although it may sound disrespectful, at the crash scene there should have been human remains. Even if the fire burned hot and long, we usually find human bones or recognizable fragments. This is all bull!@$@ brought to you by the same people that gave you the magic bullet theory. Literally. Check the 9/11 commission against the Warren Commission and see if any names match. We bought it once, right? If they can CON-vince you that a low velocity bullet can fly in a zig zag pattern like a pinball and change direction in mid-air, smash bones, go through a car seat, and fall out on a stretcher looking perfect (just like the one fired into cotton wadding for the ballistic test) they can convince you that you don't need a highly trained demo team, and months of prep, not to mention MILLIONS OF DOLLARS (4.6 Million for a downtown 14 story building in mid-America, that took several months to finish) to level the WTC. Do you honestly believe that you only need a couple of idiots, that can't even fly, 2 planes (with fuel that doesn't burn hot enough to melt that type of steel) about an hour of "burn" time, to knock down 2 buildings hit with an off center impact, and a third building that didn't get hit AT ALL? Have them fall straight down, PERFECTLY, and leave thermite, oops, not supposed to say that, MOLTEN STEEL puddles that burn for days? Well !@#$, what the hell are we paying these professionals MILLIONS of dollars for?!?!?! We just need some idiots with dynamite and jet fuel. No planning, no prep needed. The odds are they will always fall straight down based on what everybody saw in NY, 3 times in a row (it's really demolish 2 get on free.) How stupid is the public at large? I need to go into the Kansas ocean-front property business! http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=1731&view=findpost&p=14937759 I think it is disinfo since anybody with an ounce of intelligence who actually studies the Shanks crash scene will realize no 757 caused that shallow crater and funky wing impressions. Edited by Killtown, Apr 13 2008, 01:14 PM.



22205	Apr 13 2008, 11:52 PM Post #5
Arlingtonian Posts: 444 Group: Members Member #24 Joined: 01/14/08	i dont have the link handy, but if i remember correctly, i saw a video gideon compiled about 93 where they (airforce/norad) stated the fighters that were sent to intercept 93 were unarmed and had no missiles. so thats one problem with the anonymous allegations from the OP. the other is that even if he is telling the truth, the 2 facts are not necessarily related. what i mean is lets say he is who says he is and saw what he says he saw: a plane left with x number of missiles and returned with x-1 number of missiles. ok, so what? he didnt see nor does he say he saw 93 get shot down. we dont know where that missile went even if dude is not lying. for all we know the crater might have been partly created by a missile, which may have caused the loud boom that was heard. or the missile could have been shot elsewhere. my point is we dont know. missing missile does NOT automatically equal 93 shot down.



Domenick DiMaggio	Apr 14 2008, 12:26 PM Post #6
Posts: 2,006 Group: Members Member #22 Joined: 01/14/08	22205 Apr 13 2008, 11:52 PM i dont have the link handy, but if i remember correctly, i saw a video gideon compiled about 93 where they (airforce/norad) stated the fighters that were sent to intercept 93 were unarmed and had no missiles. Yeah but that would be like the cops saying they sent unarmed officers into a gang war. They're just covering their ass. I do agree with the rest of your post though.
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look-up	Apr 14 2008, 01:10 PM Post #7
Posts: 1,642 Group: Admins Member #63 Joined: 01/15/08	Interesting. But inconclusive. I wish people would have the balls to attach their names to these things. If you're out there, you've got to speak up. Truth matters more than anything you might stand to lose.
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Domenick DiMaggio	Apr 14 2008, 02:25 PM Post #8
Posts: 2,006 Group: Members Member #22 Joined: 01/14/08	look-up Apr 14 2008, 01:10 PM Interesting. But inconclusive. I wish people would have the balls to attach their names to these things. If you're out there, you've got to speak up. Truth matters more than anything you might stand to lose. I'm at the point now where I really don't think it matters if anyone ever comes forward. There is way more indisputable evidence in the 93 bombing and OKC 95 and we see what's happened with that....
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Killtown	Apr 14 2008, 02:57 PM Post #9
Childish Hypocrite Posts: 701 Group: BANNED! Member #208 Joined: 01/24/08	Maybe "one less missile came back" to promote the shoot-down farce?



look-up	Apr 14 2008, 03:24 PM Post #10
Posts: 1,642 Group: Admins Member #63 Joined: 01/15/08	I hear ya Domenick, but the thing is, people have to change. Or else we're going to kill each other until the end of time. I don't accept that this is our destiny-to never have disclosure. OKC for instance, was kind of a practice run to build up for 9/11, and who knows how bad the thing 9/11 is meant to practice for, will be. We can't let them pull off their next 9/11 or worse. We just can't. Our entire lives should be focussed on stopping it (not that mine is, or yours isn't). One million dead iraqis already. We are approaching holacaust proportions now. The war has to stop. I feel that 9/11 truth is the only way to stop it.
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illeagalhunter	Apr 17 2008, 04:45 AM Post #11
Posts: 175 Group: Members Member #81 Joined: 01/16/08	So if they didnt shoot it down , its not in the gouge in the ground. Go on Killtown tell us!
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look-up	Apr 17 2008, 09:23 AM Post #12
Posts: 1,642 Group: Admins Member #63 Joined: 01/15/08	one does not need an alternative explanation, to suggest and prove that any given explanation is untrue. with that said, I'd also be curious to know what killtown thinks happened to the real plane
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Gideon524	Apr 18 2008, 01:39 PM Post #13
Oh, you didn't know? Posts: 522 Group: Admins Member #4 Joined: 12/21/07	mynameis Apr 12 2008, 05:42 PM "The US Air Force Shot Down Flight 93" George Washington's Blog Saturday, April 12, 2008 The following comment was posted to my blog today (I do not know who the author is -- he posted semi-anonymously; so decide for yourself whether or not you believe him): "I am an Air Force veteran. I was serving at Langley AFB, Virginia on Sept. 11. (not to be confused with CIA headquarters at Langley, VA). The "Alert Squadron" of 4 F-16 Falcons also stationed at Langley AFB was scrambled AFTER the "plane" crashed into the Pentagon. Because of my position as a ground equipment mechanic, I had access to the flightline operations that day. My friends were Crew Cheifs and Weapons Loaders, among other professions on the flightline that day. One of my [unusual] duties that day was to drive a Loader (personal friend) along with a rack of live missiles (AIM-9's and AIM-120's) across the active runway to the Alert Squadron and drop them off. I was towing equipment to the flightline, so when it was time to go back and pick up the Loader (and our missile trailer) I was unable to do so, but another member of my Flight (a good friend, and later roommate) did go. According to my roommate (and I later confirmed with the Loader) the Loader was completely silent most of the trip back to our side of the base, after they crossed the active, he spoke. "They shot one down." JJ replied "WHAT?" Loader:"One of those 16's came back with one less missile than it left with" That was all. As they pulled back in to the squadron area, The loader was whisked away by his commanders for debriefing. I didn't see him for a few days, but when I did, he said he couldn't talk about it, but he confirmed that what my roommate had told me was true. The US Air Force shot down Flight 93. I haven't told this to many people. I told my parents and other family members shortly after I left the military. They didn't believe it. I figured no one else would either. I kept my mouth shut. Everyone was dedicated to the president and the country (not really) And anything that went against the Official, media delivered story was viewed as unpatriotic. I knew that I loved this country, so I kept my mouth shut. I just can't do that anymore. I know that I don't have any documents to prove it, and I have no way of knowing where the others involved are now days, so I can't prove anything. All I have is my word. and with God as my witness that is the truth." http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/ Wow, for years I'd heard this story from two seperate people that did not know each other, but never heard about it within the 9/11 movement itself. I'd heard from two people on two seperate occassions that one of the fighters scrambled returned missing a missile. Hmm... Anyways, lookie what I found going through the news I copied from Dylan last week... At 9:58 a.m. on the morning of 9/11, just 5 minutes United 93 crashed, a passenger on board. hiding in the back of the plane. phoned a 911 operator to report a hijacking. Just before the line went dead he reported hearing an explosion and seeing white smoke. Then the plane crashed.



look-up	Apr 18 2008, 01:59 PM Post #14
Posts: 1,642 Group: Admins Member #63 Joined: 01/15/08	i wonder if it was really a cell phone, or an airphone on the seat back... does anybody know how you would find this out?
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Domenick DiMaggio	Apr 21 2008, 08:10 AM Post #15
Posts: 2,006 Group: Members Member #22 Joined: 01/14/08	look-up Apr 18 2008, 01:59 PM i wonder if it was really a cell phone, or an airphone on the seat back... does anybody know how you would find this out? Officially this was a cell phone call and the plane is alleged to have been less than 2000 feet AGL at the time. It was one of only 2 cell phone calls from the plane alleged to be UA93. The other cell call was Cee Cee's and it was at or about the same exact time. I don't think the contents of that conversation have ever been disclosed. I'm not sure the length of her call but Felt's is alleged to have laster 78 seconds although the Moussaoui trial evidence does not disclose the length or that it went to Westmoreland County 911. I will check on Cee Cee's length tonight when I am home or I'm sure someone here can find it out and post it.
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