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Photos : Inside the Pentagon
Topic Started: Jul 14 2009, 12:02 AM (1,784 Views)
Domenick DiMaggio	Jul 14 2009, 12:02 AM Post #1
Posts: 1,979 Group: Members Member #22 Joined: 01/14/08	thought i would upload these here i do believe i had posted them at the old forums. i obtained these images in 2005[?] from russell pickering. i forget the photographers name maybe craig or aldo or someone else will recall. russell also told me that the source didn't release all the photographs because 'he didn't want to fuel any conspriacy theories' whatever that may have meant. it was vague and if russell asked him to clarify he sure didn't tell me when i inquired.
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Domenick DiMaggio	Jul 14 2009, 12:06 AM Post #2
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Domenick DiMaggio	Jul 14 2009, 12:43 AM Post #3
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Domenick DiMaggio	Jul 14 2009, 01:52 AM Post #4
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Citizen Pawn	Jul 14 2009, 01:57 AM Post #6
Posts: 601 Group: Members Member #202 Joined: 01/24/08	Every time I see that punch out hole , I think to myself how obvious it is. It's almost a perfect circle and the singe marks over it has always made me scratch my head. I still can't seem to accept it as 'normal', in 2009.
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Domenick DiMaggio	Jul 14 2009, 02:00 AM Post #7
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Domenick DiMaggio	Jul 14 2009, 02:01 AM Post #8
Posts: 1,979 Group: Members Member #22 Joined: 01/14/08	Citizen Pawn Jul 14 2009, 01:57 AM Every time I see that punch out hole , I think to myself how obvious it is. It's almost a perfect circle and the singe marks over it has always made me scratch my head. I still can't seem to accept it as 'normal', in 2009. agreed 1000%!!!
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BoneZ	Jul 14 2009, 11:10 AM Post #9
Posts: 720 Group: Members Member #269 Joined: 02/03/08	When I look at all of these photos, the one thing that's missing from every one of them is a 200,000 pound jetliner. I see no fuselage, no wings, no tail section, no luggage, no seats, absolutely nothing that indicates a large jetliner crashed in the section where the photos were taken. Edited by BoneZ, Jul 14 2009, 03:54 PM.
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datman	Jul 14 2009, 01:53 PM Post #10
Posts: 112 Group: Members Member #137 Joined: 01/19/08	BoneZ Jul 14 2009, 11:10 AM When I look at all of these photos, the one thing that's missing from every one of them is a 200,000 pound jetliner. I see no fuselage, no wings, not tail section, no luggage, no seats, absolutely nothing that indicates a large jetliner crashed in the section where the photos were taken. I agree. What I am having a hard time understanding is how and why so many people could corroborate the story after the fact that all the airplane debris was found at the pentagon as well as Shanksville.
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JackD	Jul 14 2009, 04:16 PM Post #11
Posts: 262 Group: Members Member #253 Joined: 01/31/08	Domenick DiMaggio Jul 14 2009, 01:52 AM Dom -- I read with interest. note that many of your photos (some below) show a key clue -- concrete columns with much concrete stripped away, exposing rebar hoops. In once case, ALL of the concrete is gone, leaving hoops standing like a ladder around column core. It takes a LARGE overpressure force to strip columns of concrete. can deflagrating jet fuel fireall do this? Jet fuel burning does not expand with explosive force. Look for column 6N in the Pickering set -- it is VERY close to the "exit hole" -- and thus very FAR from the site of initial impact. Any explosives person would have to ask themselves --- how did concrete rebar columns so FAR AWAY from a plane-impact site (an aluminum skinned plane with carbon fiber nosecone) experience damage that would strip concrete off -- after already loosing force pin-balling off the 100yds of columns, walls, etc that it would have already passed. Yes, duh-bunkers, a high-speed impact to the middle of a column, directly, would do serious damage. but whhat a plane impact CANT do is strip, as if with a toothbrush, every last vestige of concrete from rebar. It takes explosives, or 20,000 PSI water knifes, or jackhammers, to do that.
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Citizen Pawn	Jul 14 2009, 05:19 PM Post #12
Posts: 601 Group: Members Member #202 Joined: 01/24/08	Yes, the photos have always bothered me. A plane seems to be missing, always has. No matter how it's spun, I can't believe a whole plane disintegrated and this is what we have (plus a few scant photos of 'parts'). The "hole" has always been the comical part. It's like when a SWAT team wants to enter a building and they set a charge to tear a hole out of a door, and after the dust settles , there is a shaped cut out where they entered. And we were supposed to believe all this time that some huge 'thing' came bursting through the wall....but that 'thing' was shown as a garbage pile right outside the hole's exit??? LMAO You would think someone Photoshopped a big HUGE FUCKING FUSELAGE out of the photo, and inserted suitcases and a plane axle as a joke. It's cartoonish, how can someone say to themselves, "Hey that hole looks totally logical, yep a plane MUST have come through there, no need to look further"? Like the "Juggernaut" ran through the wall with a sphere shaped shield and kept going all the way to the Potomac River. The fact that there is HIGHLY CREDIBLE evidence that Flight 77's approach was NORTH OF CITGO (Holy Jesus on toast you would think that THAT says something) makes this all nonsense...it couldn't happen then...square one for us all. And if THAT couldn't happen, then 9/11 itself....could NOT happen the way they say. There is EVIDENCE that shows a SERIOUS doubt, does that not even count for anything? Seriously guys, I sit here in 2009 and just see the whole thing as comic. Doesn't mean I don't take it seriously, but it's just so pathetic you have to laugh. I have to laugh to keep my sanity. Especially when I know that there are personas which label themselves as 'debunkers' that think it all seems so very logical. It's stunning. The very fact that NOTHING seems amiss or out of place in ANY of the numerous pieces of evidence, is just plain depressing. The 'debunker' attitude has been a contributor to my losing faith in humanity, among other groups and collective egos. But they have taken the cake. See, I can't even comment without this feeling of disbelief. That's why I don't contribute that much anymore. It's all just so bizarre.
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Citizen Pawn	Jul 14 2009, 05:33 PM Post #13
Posts: 601 Group: Members Member #202 Joined: 01/24/08	Oh and I just watched the video Dom, "Circular ball of fire" Yeah, Puff the Magic Pentagon Dragon was sitting inside with his dunce cap on.. against the wall because he misbehaved and he happened to sneeze a big cute fireball, and it blew the wall out, leaving bricks and such hanging around, with a little cute singe mark , from his little cute nose. Is it just me or do people with the Socrates beards, chiming in on the 'skeptic' side, always seem like the most full of ever loving shit. How can someone ever take this crap seriously? I'm not saying without a doubt it was a 'wall breach kit'. But when weighing the two together, I think a wall breach system or charge, outdoes Puff the Pentagon Dragon. "Here cute little Dragon guy, pucker your lips up against this wall and when I say 'go' get real angry and huff and puff till the bricks blow out" Circular shaped fireball..... I have some ice packs to sell to some Eskimos, wanna invest in my company?
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datman	Jul 14 2009, 07:29 PM Post #14
Posts: 112 Group: Members Member #137 Joined: 01/19/08	what exactly is this photo? Attached to this post: untitled.bmp (703.18 KB)
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noeffects	Jul 14 2009, 08:20 PM Post #15
Posts: 798 Group: Members Member #178 Joined: 01/22/08	Citizen Pawn The "hole" has always been the comical part. It's like when a SWAT team wants to enter a building and they set a charge to tear a hole out of a door, and after the dust settles , there is a shaped cut out where they entered. If i was a debunker twit I'd run with that idea... ahem... they breached the wall to get in and fight the fires, save lives, etc. ummm...because all the doors were locked because of a drill.. yea ...that's the ticket...it's so easy to pretend it's all good... I also favor a Puff Daddy The Majik Pentagram Dragon theory ...lol !
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noeffects	Jul 14 2009, 08:26 PM Post #16
Posts: 798 Group: Members Member #178 Joined: 01/22/08	datman Jul 14 2009, 07:29 PM what exactly is this photo? it's just to the left by the helipad I presume... I always wondered why these cars are parked right next to the pentagon...???
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Domenick DiMaggio	Jul 14 2009, 11:30 PM Post #17
Posts: 1,979 Group: Members Member #22 Joined: 01/14/08	Citizen Pawn Jul 14 2009, 05:33 PM Oh and I just watched the video Dom, "Circular ball of fire" isn't it amazing? Quote: Yeah, Puff the Magic Pentagon Dragon was sitting inside with his dunce cap on.. against the wall because he misbehaved and he happened to sneeze a big cute fireball, and it blew the wall out, leaving bricks and such hanging around, with a little cute singe mark , from his little cute nose. lol
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Domenick DiMaggio	Jul 14 2009, 11:33 PM Post #18
Posts: 1,979 Group: Members Member #22 Joined: 01/14/08	JackD Jul 14 2009, 04:16 PM Domenick DiMaggio Jul 14 2009, 01:52 AM Dom -- I read with interest. note that many of your photos (some below) show a key clue -- concrete columns with much concrete stripped away, exposing rebar hoops. In once case, ALL of the concrete is gone, leaving hoops standing like a ladder around column core. It takes a LARGE overpressure force to strip columns of concrete. can deflagrating jet fuel fireall do this? Jet fuel burning does not expand with explosive force. Look for column 6N in the Pickering set -- it is VERY close to the "exit hole" -- and thus very FAR from the site of initial impact. Any explosives person would have to ask themselves --- how did concrete rebar columns so FAR AWAY from a plane-impact site (an aluminum skinned plane with carbon fiber nosecone) experience damage that would strip concrete off -- after already loosing force pin-balling off the 100yds of columns, walls, etc that it would have already passed. Yes, duh-bunkers, a high-speed impact to the middle of a column, directly, would do serious damage. but whhat a plane impact CANT do is strip, as if with a toothbrush, every last vestige of concrete from rebar. It takes explosives, or 20,000 PSI water knifes, or jackhammers, to do that. i was always curious about columns. i think your assessment is way more accurate than a 757 disintegrating into a circular ball of fire.
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illeagalhunter	Jul 15 2009, 01:15 PM Post #19
Posts: 174 Group: Members Member #81 Joined: 01/16/08	There is 32mm rebar all through the colums, that takes a hell of a cutting with a Sthil Saw
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Bernie big shorts	Jul 15 2009, 02:03 PM Post #20
Posts: 224 Group: Members Member #287 Joined: 02/07/08	Citizen Pawn, Quote: Yes, the photos have always bothered me. A plane seems to be missing, always has. No matter how it's spun, I can't believe a whole plane disintegrated and this is what we have (plus a few scant photos of 'parts'). There is quite a lot of pictures of plane debris at the pentagon, in fact far more than may be expected, the plane impacted a reinforced wall at 500mph, this is what we know happens under test conditions: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--_RGM4Abv8 As you can see there is not much plane debris left from the colossal force of that impact. Quote: The fact that there is HIGHLY CREDIBLE evidence that Flight 77's approach was NORTH OF CITGO The witnesses that you regard as highly credible also claim that they watched the plane fly into the building. You need to ask yourself what is more likely they got wrong, is it the side of the citgo gas station the flew in from or is it the plane impacting the pentagon? Quote: .it couldn't happen then...square one for us all. And if THAT couldn't happen, then 9/11 itself....could NOT happen the way they say. There is EVIDENCE that shows a SERIOUS doubt, does that not even count for anything? I understand that there is evidence that could be submitted that could 'challenge' any event. If i wanted to doubt Michael Jacksons death i could find 'evidence' to support this theory. You need to ask yourself where is the evidence strongest. Flat earthers submit 'evidence' that shows to them a serious doubt regarding the earths spherical form, the evidence they present should not be enough in itself for people to doubt the official spherical story - people should examine evidence critically. Quote: I have to laugh to keep my sanity. Especially when I know that there are personas which label themselves as 'debunkers' that think it all seems so very logical. It's stunning. I don't find all aspects of the official story as 'logical' necessarily, i find many aspects of science and technology counter-intuitive, i was reading recently about the treatment of nut allergy sufferers with small amounts of nuts increased slowly over time, this at first seemed illogical to me but the scientific research convinced me of the 'logic' behind it, many antidotes come from the poison and the results demonstrate the effectiveness of this approach. When i come across something in the official story as odd i keep an open mind as to the explanation behind it. It is important to listen to the voices of a range of experts in the field that can throw light on unfamiliar subjects. Quote: The very fact that NOTHING seems amiss or out of place in ANY of the numerous pieces of evidence, is just plain depressing. The 'debunker' attitude has been a contributor to my losing faith in humanity, among other groups and collective egos. But they have taken the cake. Most stories contain anomolies, i fully accept that in a narrative as broad as 911 there is much unexplained phenomena. Quote: See, I can't even comment without this feeling of disbelief. That's why I don't contribute that much anymore. It's all just so bizarre. Disbelief can be challenged positively. I recommend you seek out explanations for the unanswered questions you have, i have found that it has helped me enormously.
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22205	Jul 15 2009, 02:34 PM Post #21
Arlingtonian Posts: 443 Group: Members Member #24 Joined: 01/14/08	why is bernie still allowed to post here freely? isnt the above post a textbook example of pseudo skepticism (one of dozens of such posts by bernard)? does it not piss in the face of everything we have done to give truth a voice? a voice free of interferrence and bullshit from ridiculously blind and biased turds? where is the moderation? i am deeply disappointed in how they have dropped the ball where bernieturdshorts is concerned. i dont own this site nor do i have any voice here other than merely that of a "user", but i doubt im in the minority in this regard: bernie should be relegated to a "skeptics" only posting status. he repeatedly slithers his way around truth to inject false doubt and intellectual dishonesty into every subject he can, and has done so for over a year here. when is enough, enough?



noeffects	Jul 15 2009, 02:53 PM Post #22
Posts: 798 Group: Members Member #178 Joined: 01/22/08	22205 Jul 15 2009, 02:34 PM why is bernie still allowed to post here freely? isnt the above post a textbook example of pseudo skepticism (one of dozens of such posts by bernard)? does it not piss in the face of everything we have done to give truth a voice? a voice free of interferrence and bullshit from ridiculously blind and biased turds? where is the moderation? i am deeply disappointed in how they have dropped the ball where bernieturdshorts is concerned. i dont own this site nor do i have any voice here other than merely that of a "user", but i doubt im in the minority in this regard: bernie should be relegated to a "skeptics" only posting status. he repeatedly slithers his way around truth to inject false doubt and intellectual dishonesty into every subject he can, and has done so for over a year here. when is enough, enough? from what i can recall...i guess Bernie is civil...he's not name calling, etc. but...that almost makes it worse.. lol...oh well.. has ol' Berndog ever been banned or banned to the skeptics cell ? I always thought the skeptics section should be commenting on all of the threads independently... they could be doing that...but they don't...why ?...
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JFK	Jul 15 2009, 04:30 PM Post #23
Posts: 4,165 Group: Admins Member #108 Joined: 01/17/08	Bernie, that video is not even comparable to shanksville. None of the 4 alleged crash sites had a comparable "wall".
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Bernie big shorts	Jul 15 2009, 05:15 PM Post #24
Posts: 224 Group: Members Member #287 Joined: 02/07/08	JFK, I agree that its not comparable to Shanksville, the reinforced walls of the Pentagon is the comparison, i accept that it is not a perfect comparison, the jet is different and the walls of a nuclear reactor are stronger but it shows how little of a jet flying at 500mph is left after impact. The weaker walls and the larger jet explain to me why we have many images of light debris strewn across the pentagon crash site.
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Bernie big shorts	Jul 15 2009, 05:17 PM Post #25
Posts: 224 Group: Members Member #287 Joined: 02/07/08	22205 and noeffects, I'm willing to be convinced that i'm wrong in my opinion that there shouldn't be much debris left after the pentagon impact. I'm always prepared for open and polite debate. Edited by Bernie big shorts, Jul 15 2009, 05:18 PM.
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