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Fritz Springmeier On Michael Jackson & Mind Control
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Jun 27 2009, 01:53 PM
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With the death of Michael Jackson, I decided to see if Fritz Springmeier, who exposed lots of things involving the music industry and mind control. After a quick search I came an interesting passage about Disney, which mentioned MJ.
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For Mickey Mouse programming they came out with Thru the Mirror, where Mickey Mouse steps through his bedroom mirror and ends up in another world (altered state). Not all of the Disney movies that have mind-control programming themes got released to the public. One unreleased cartoon had Penelope fleeing from a sinister looking Grandfather Clock which is carrying her to another world, and has another scene where Penelope tries to hold onto someone who personifies the Wind. George Lucas, who directed the movie Star Wars, which was a movie planned by the Illuminati & used for Illuminati programming, also directed Disney’s movie "Captain EO". Captain EO (who looks like a demonic entity) goes to rescue the Queen (who looks like the harlot describes as Mystery Babylon in the Bible). The Queen is in captivity simply because she and her people believe in black and white (which represent good and evil). When they renounce such a belief, they are saved by Michael Jackson (in actual life a mind-controlled slave) playing Captain EO. It’s a New Age witchcraft film through & through. By the way, Michael Jackson has gone to Disney amusement parks many times, sometimes in disguise. It is public knowledge that his Jehovah’s Witness family has been very abusive mentally and physically to their children. Disney has put out several movies on how the mind works, such as the educational film The Brain & Nervous System in 1990. Their film Runaway Brain is a cartoon where Dr. Frankenollie transplants Mickey’s brain into a monster’s body & vice-versa. A 1994 film, Puppet Masters shows the govt.’s secret Office of Scientific Intelligence trying to save the U.S. from aliens who live in human bodies. In recent years, Bette Midler has been Disney’s main actress. In the Vol. 2, it was exposed that she is possibly a Monarch Mind-controlled slave. She is famous for her "mood swings" (switches in personality), and she had a "mental breakdown" in 1985. Her eyes and body gestures are those of a programmed multiple. She has gone out on tour for Disney without making -money, and she is best of friends with Jeffrey Katzenberg (second in command at Disney). Jeffrey Katzenberg by the way is extremely disliked by his counterpart Sid Sheinberg. Bette Midler plays Stella in the movie Stella. Stella is an occult name. In the movie, the script seems tailored for Bette Midler and for someone who is a programmed slave, rather than the actress fitting the role. At the movie’s end, Stella (Bette Midler) attends her own daughter’s marriage by peeking in a window and watching from the outside. This is the script they give so many of the parts of a slave, so that they feel unworthy and feel like they are always on the outside looking in at life. Many parts (personalities) of slaves find it hard to connect with real life, because they feel they are on the outside looking in. And then in true Disney fashion, Disney had Bette Midler play the role of the lead witch in Hocus Pocus. The movie Hocus Pocus does some hocus pocus of its own. While pretending to make fun of witchcraft, they actually teach witchcraft. They do make the 3 witches look comical. By the way, the 3 witches stand for the maiden, mother, crone combo that the Illuminati reverence. Disney subtly works in deep occult things, such as the all-seeing eye on the cover of the book, the little girl promising the cat (who is a familiar spirit) that her descendants would always care for it (true, because the cat was a generational spirit). The cat is killed in the movie but can’t die. And Bette Midler as lead witch in her costume, which has some Mother-of-Darkness symbology on it, states as she gets ready to take the life force from an innocent girl, "We want to live forever, so we take children’s lives." This is wholesome entertainment for children? The Disney capacity for deception extends to its own workers. PR men recruit young people for its Disney College program. They tell the young people what a great stepping stone it will be for their careers. They have been known to make it sound like the greatest thing in your life. Kids come from all over the country due to the slick recruiting tactics to work for Disney. They are then housed in Disney housing, given menial jobs, and paid low wages. Most people in the College Program leave disillusioned. If the worker happens to think of a great idea, Disney officials have been known to steal the idea, and because the worker was working for Disney the worker will find that they are unable to get any credit or money for the idea that Disney steals and makes millions off of. One uncredited creator of a Disney sale item said, ,,iterally, they’re using everybody for everything." (Inside the Mouse, p. 239.)
Taken from Bloodlines Of The Illuminati, pages 48 & 49
I just thought I'd post it as it has to do with some big recent events, on Deadline Live yesterday, Jack Blood also brought up some suspicious circumstances surrounding the death(the podcast is AFR's website).
Related articles http://www.illuminati-news.com/art-and-mc/field-of-art.htm http://www.illuminati-news.com/michael-jackson-on-trial.htm
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crescent moon comment by brooke shields at mj's memorial: http://www.google.com/search?q=crescent+moon+brooke+shields&hl=en&sa=2
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"Smile though you're heart is aching, although ours are, we need to look up where he is undoubtedly perched on a crescent moon smiling so know that we need to smile too."
crescent moon symbolism and origin:
http://islam.about.com/od/history/a/crescent_moon.htm The crescent moon and star symbol actually pre-dates Islam by several thousand years. Information on the origins of the symbol are difficult to ascertain, but most sources agree that these ancient celestial symbols were in use by the peoples of Central Asia and Siberia in their worship of sun, moon, and sky gods. There are also reports that the crescent moon and star were used to represent the Carthaginian goddess Tanit or the Greek goddess Diana.
http://www.radioliberty.com/Symbolsandtheirmeaning.html CRESCENT MOON: A symbol of the aging goddess (crone) to contemporary witches and victory over death to many Muslims. In Islamic lands, crescent can be seen enclosing a lone pentagram.
http://www.paleotimes.org/articles/newMoonCrescentorFull.htm The crescent moon is the new moon. It is a time where we are all to come together and look for Yahweh's lesser light. The new moon is such a beautiful marker for the beginning of the month. A usual sighting of the new moon is as the sun sets the sky clears. The sun sets in the west slightly right of where the new moon will be seen. As the sky darkens the first star is seen which is actually the planet Venus. Gradually the crescent appears above eye level in the west. The shofar is blown and brethren come together for fellowship.
some quotes from a discussion on the subject of crescent moons: http://www.monachos.net/forum/showthread.php?t=4602
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Actually, the crescent and star was the symbol of the Ottoman Empire, which happened to be Moslem. It was used because it was a relatively "universal" symbol of authority in the East, since it was the originally the symbol of the Sassanian Empire of Persia. I do not believe that early Islam used any sort of symbol, such a thing would have been considered antithetical since Mohammed was very much against images of any kind. The cescent moon has been used thru-out the centuries by many groups. It was the symbol of the moon god: Nana who was supposed to be the offspring of another moongod Sin (which Sinai is derived from) Nana used the crescent moon while Sin used a full moon. Others claim the crescent moon used by muslims today was actually a jewish symbol of the jews living in Arabia at the time of Muhammed. There have been jewish archeological finds which depicts a crescent moon in a 45 degree angle. Here is an article on this: http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~jkatz/crescent.htmlThe crescent moon including the depiction of a star was quite common among roman coins as well. Here is one example of a coin with Hadrian and the crescent moon on the reverse: http://tjbuggey.ancients.info/images/hadstar.jpgThe Islamic symbol of a crescent moon and star originated from the Ottomon Turks who simply held onto a flag used by Constantinople. The Byzantine flag had a crescent moon for some battle they had with the goths in whuch they were successful. It took place on the new moon. Later a star was added as some symbolism refering to the Virgin Mary. I dont know how accurate the wiki is but it speaks of this (scroll down to 'emblem'): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ByzantiumI think it was the other way round: The Sumerian moon god Nannar had two children Utu(sun) and Inanna(Venus). When the Babylonians took over they became Sin, Shamash and Ishtar.
so whats with the jacksons & sun/moon referrences?
 source: http://tastefulcelebs.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/janet.jpg (janet at the superbowl while justin timberlake - a disney kid - exposes her sun-encased nipple)
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and did u ever catch this when watching the full version of thriller?
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtyJbIOZjS8
coincedence? randomly placed prop? related to sun/moon perhaps? see ---> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obelisk
OR- is the crescent moon in brooke shields' statement related to islam?
Jackson to build a mosque in Bahrain

http://tinyurl.com/mkpz57
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MANAMA — World’s top pop singer Michael Jackson, who recently settled down in Manama has donated a huge amount of money, the figure was not disclosed, for building a state-of-the-art mosque near his luxury palace in the Bahraini capital, according to his spokesman. The proposed mosque would be designated for learning the principles and teachings of Islam, as well as teaching of English language, for which high-standard teachers would be brought from United States under his personal supervision, the spokesman said.
Jackson did so as a token of appreciation to the Bahraini people, who welcomed him and treated him as if he was one of the citizens of their country.
Michael Jackson has moved to reside in Manama after the long-judicial battle, which ended up with being acquitted of the charges of child molestation.
The court hearings were followed up by news agencies for many months, and the number of reporters who attended and covered them was estimated at more than 2000 from all countries in the world.
It is noteworthy that Germain Jackson, the brother of Michael had embraced Islam at the beginning of 1990s, and he was one of former Jackson Five band and the solo singer
Germain had felt his brother Michael has great interest and study of Islamic books, the tolerance of Islam and his dealing with Arab and Muslim personalities since long years. The most prominent among those figures is Prince Al Waleed bin Talal and the Bahraini royal family.
more of jackson in dubai: http://aboutmichaeljackson.com/m-news+article+storyid-268.html
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Michael Jackson Attends Dubai Desert Rally Awards Reports also state Michael Jackson has bought property in Bahrain Tuesday, November 15, 2005
Michael Jackson attended an awards show signalling the end of the Dubai Desert Rally yesterday to present the winners with their awards.
He was not noticed at first, according to a local newspaper say newKerala.com, as he ate from the buffet at the Le Meridien Mina Seyahi with his friend Mohammad Ben Sulayem (who is also a famous rally driver from the U.A.E.) and managing director of the Dubai International Marine Club, Saeed Hareb.
Michael presented awards to Stephen Peterhansel and Cyril Despries, who won the car and bike categories of the rally respectively.
Meanwhile, reports have surfaced that claim Michael has invested $1.5 million on a home in Bahrain's man-made Amwaj Islands.
The quarter-acre site, which holds two villas and a plot of land, is rumoured to be his new home according to contactmusic.com. However, an officer for the ministry of information claims it will be difficult for Michael to get citizenship.
"Citizenship is not easy to get here in Bahrain, even for Michael Jackson," said Rashid Bin Abdulrahman Al Khalifa. "He is not a visitor (and may stay indefinitely) as long as he owns property here."
informative archive of mj related info/news: http://aboutmichaeljackson.com/m-news+archive+.html
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unrelated to crescent moon, but noteworthy now - in hindsight: http://aboutmichaeljackson.com/m-news+article+storyid-269.html
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Michael Jackson Statement on Drug Overdose Rumors 10 December 2005
Earlier this week the National Enquirer reported that Michael Jackson had suffered several drug overdoses and that his condition was now 'critical'. That story is entirely false.
It is not unusual for tabloid papers like the National Enquirer to publish such fiction - but in recent weeks many stories have come out of Santa Barbara, seemingly linked to the DA's office there, alleging one thing or another about the King of Pop.
Today, Michael's publicist, Raymone Bain, has issued a statement on his behalf:
Michael Jackson has been working with several artists recording his Katrina Relief song, and with me all week, including today. He is doing fine. I have never seen him happier or healthier.
Whomever these individuals are who are intent on disseminating false information throughout the media regarding Mr. Jackson, should begin hiring good attorneys. Likewise, the few irresponsible journalists who continuously rely on these ‘sources,’ and report this false information.
Mr. Jackson’s tolerance level has come to an end. The Green light that people have thought they have had to willfully impugn Michael Jackson’s character and integrity has now become Red.
It is interesting to note that these odd rumours and stories - apparently connected to the same office which tried unsuccessfully to prosecute Michael earlier this year - have coincided with news of a major new Michael Jackson release.
http://aboutmichaeljackson.com/m-news+article+storyid-262.html
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Recording Artists Join Michael Jackson for Charity Single
Jackson spokesperson announces Katrina aid participants
13 September 2005
Raymone Bain, spokesperson for Michael Jackson, has released the following statement regarding artists that have agreed to participate in the charity single Michael has penned titled From The Bottom Of My Heart, with proceeds helping the victims of Hurricane Katrina. "Michael Jackson is pleased to announce that Jay-Z, Mariah Carey, Missy Elliott, R. Kelly, Wyclef Jean, Lenny Kravitz, Lauren Hill, Mary J. Blidge, Yolanda Adams, Kenneth 'Babyface' Edmonds, James Brown, Snoop Dogg , the O’Jays, and Ciara, are among the artists joining in his hurricane relief song, where all proceeds will be donated to victims of Hurricane Katrina.
"As previously announced, the working title of the song is, From the Bottom of My Heart, which will be released on 2 Seas Records, owned by Prince Abdullah Hamad Alkhalifa of Bahrain.
"This project is in response to the widespread devastation wrought by Hurricane Katrina, and because of the human suffering taking place in the Gulf Region of his country.
"Mr. Jackson is continuing to reach out to artists who would like to work with him in this project, which he humbly hopes will make a tremendous difference to all individuals who have been affected by this tragedy."
Michael Jackson Sued by Bahraini Prince (and connects to ex-mayor of dc, marion barry) http://tinyurl.com/ne6yky
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He may be homeless, wandering, carting around three school-aged kids, but Michael Jackson has a new friend: former imprisoned crack addict and Washington, D.C., Mayor Marion Barry. And that's good in a way, because he is being sued by an old friend, Prince Abdullah of Bahrain.
Jackson, according to my sources, has been spending time with Barry, thanks to their mutual friend and publicist, Miss Raymone Bain. It turns out that before she represented Jackson, Bain was Barry's PR lady. She has been with him the whole time, since the day he went to jail for possession of crack cocaine in 1991.
Now, I'm told Bain has put her two most famous clients together. Imagine the possibilities.
Barry, twice elected mayor in Washington, most recently pled not guilty to driving under the influence and without registration in November 2006. He was acquitted this past June on the drunk driving. His various other "priors" included assorted drug and tax-evasion charges over the years.
On the face of it, Barry fits in nicely as Jacko's new B.F.F. Former friends include: Leonard Muhammad, of the Nation of Islam; Michael Flatley, who was falsely accused of rape; Prince Jefri of Brunei; Uri Geller; and accused charity absconder Rabbi Shmuley Boteach.
Maybe the four-times-married Barry (wife No. 4 was Bain's good friend Cora Masters) can give Michael some advice. After all, he's being sued by his old pal, Sheik Abdullah bin Hamad Al Khalifa.
Prince Abdullah graciously took Jackson and his family in after the 2005 child-molestation trial. He housed him, fed him, chauffeured him and even imported Jacko's friends to Bahrain for a special Christmas in 2005.
All the prince wanted in return was to make a CD and start a record company with Michael. Jackson agreed, as usual signed agreements he had no intention of keeping and then did no work. You may recall Two Seas Records, the joint venture that Jackson agreed to, for example.
Now the prince is demanding in his lawsuit that Michael go to work for him as agreed. Abdullah expects Jackson to make his record and put it out so the prince can begin to recoup the millions he invested in Michael during their friendship. Fat chance.
Jackson hasn't worked at anything in years — no performing, no recording. Occasionally, he announces that he is making some kind of record, but so far there's no evidence of this.
That Jackson is now being sued — in London, no less — by his former benefactor is a bad sign for the singer. He has depended on the kindness of Arab billionaires for some time now, but between this and what seems to be his current nomad status, he may have exhausted his credit in the last place where it still existed.
note, on the day of mj's memorial, barry is arrested and charged with stalking in dc: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/05/AR2009070501056.html
next day, the charges are dropped: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jul/08/marion-barry-stalking-charges-wont-be-pursued/
the accuser: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=Donna+Watts-Brighthaupt+-barry+-stalking&aq=f&oq=&aqi=
*for more info on his royal highness Abdullah Hamad Alkhalifa: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Abdullah+Hamad+Alkhalifa+&aq=f&oq=&aqi=
random search result: http://www.ameinfo.com/91707.html
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Piloted by BAE Systems Test Pilot Nat Makepeace and Lt Col Omar Ebrahim Mohamed Al Mahmood, Instructor Pilot of the RBAF, the aircraft flew into Farnborough with the world famous Red Arrows aerobatic team before being handed over to His Highness Sheikh Salman bin Hamad bin Isa Al Khalifa, Crown Prince of Bahrain, and Commander in Chief of the Bahraini Defence Force Colonel Hamad bin Abdullah Hamad Al Khalifa, the Commander of the RBAF was also in attendance.
BAE Systems is supplying six Hawk advanced jet trainers along with a package of equipment, support and training as part of an integrated flying training system which will enable the RBAF to improve the number and quality of its frontline pilots by developing an indigenous aviation training capability.
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thats about as far as i've reached/gone into mj... ps - im not saying that he was murdered nor that there is a conspiracy to his death. instead im suggesting that there was possibly a "conspiracy" to his life. but i did just run across this:
http://tinyurl.com/lfxjk6
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Michael Jackson's grieving sister La Toya said in an extensive interview that there were four fresh needle marks on the King of Pop's neck when he died - and that she believes her brother was murdered.
"Less than a month ago, I said I thought Michael was going to die before the London shows because he was surrounded by people who didn't have his best interests at heart," La Toya Jackson, 53, told the Daily Mail.
"I believe Michael was murdered," she said. "I felt that from the start. Not just one person was involved, rather it was a conspiracy of people."
more news about her suspicions: http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=latoya%20jackson%20murdered&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wn
speaking of Latoya, here is some interesting background info on her: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Toya_Jackson#Playboy_and_the_Jackson_family_estrangement
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In 1980, Jackson ventured into modeling. She stated that it was her own decision to pose nude for Playboy.[11] However, according to several later interviews Jackson maintains that the 'playboy' incident was not her idea and what she did (and the things she stated in her book) was under the control and threat of violence from her then husband, Jack Gordon. She explains further that her apparent willingness to pose nude was part of her then-husband's plan to sexually exploit her for millions of dollars. She said she complied out of fear and this was not something she would have done otherwise.[12][13]
In March 1989, her first cover and layout was one of the most successful issues in Playboy's history. At its time of release, it sold over 8 million copies, going on to become the best selling issue of the magazine ever. She posed again in Playboy in 1991 to promote her autobiography and subsequently in a 1994 video for the magazine, becoming one of the first celebrities to have a Playboy video aired. It was later revealed that Jackson initially refused to pose for the second spread and for the video, however, Gordon beat her into submission.[14]
After marrying Gordon in September 1989, Jackson distanced herself from certain members of her family, although she claims to have spoken with several of her siblings during this period. Her 1991 autobiography La Toya: Growing up in the Jackson Family was probably the main reason for this estrangement, as it made scathing criticisms of several family members, including the allegation that her father abused members of the family, notably herself and sister Rebbie.[15] Rebbie Jackson denied these claims, while other members of the family hypothesised that part of the book had, in fact, been written by Gordon.
In 1993, Jackson, at a press conference overseas, declared that she believed rumors that her brother Michael had sexually abused children. She later stated in an interview that her accusations at this time were delivered under threat of violence from her then husband. She has claimed that these accusations would not have been made by her had she not been under threat.[16] Furthermore, the initial accusations of child molestation surfaced that year, prompting members of the family to refute the charges, claiming that Jackson was "controlled and used" by Gordon — Jackson's father wrote about Gordon's control in his book The Jacksons. Two years later, she made headlines again for announcing the so-called "Jackson Family Secret Phone Number Line". In 1996, however, Jackson walked out on Gordon after he attempted to force her to dance at a strip club in Cleveland, Ohio. The former Jehovah's Witness (she left the faith in 1987) refused to do so and in return, was booed and heckled by the predominantly male crowd.[17]
In 1997, she ended her estrangement with the entire Jackson family and returned home to Hayvenhurst. That year, she divorced Gordon. Jackson has no children and currently resides in Los Angeles and Las Vegas.
about Jack Gordon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Gordon_(entertainment_manager)
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Jack Gordon had few other entertainment clients apart from La Toya Jackson. He had brief work before he met Joseph Jackson and for a short time he managed Penthouse playmate Paula Jones and porn star John Wayne Bobbitt. Jack Gordon also managed Gloria Gaynor, Shannen Doherty, and even Sharon Stone. [2]
Before Gordon became La Toya's co-manager with her father in the late 1980s (and eventually manager) it was widely known he had a dodgy past with trouble with the law. Joseph Jackson was always fearful of Gordon as he believed Gordon was probably armed. [3]
about Paula Jones (in case you've forgotten): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paula_Jones
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Paula Corbin Jones (born Paula Rosalee Corbin on September 17, 1966, in Lonoke, Arkansas) is a former Arkansas state employee who sued President Bill Clinton for sexual harassment. Eventually, the court dismissed the lawsuit, before trial, on the grounds that Jones failed to demonstrate any damages. However, while the dismissal was on appeal, Clinton entered into an out-of-court settlement by agreeing to pay Jones $850,000.
one more random piece of trivia, related to playboy/hefner, who imo is part of this whole sexslaves-for-the elite operation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ola_Ray
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Ola Ray (b. August 26, 1960) is an American model and actress best known for co-starring alongside Michael Jackson in his short film for "Thriller" in 1983.
Ray was born in St. Louis, Missouri. She spent part of her childhood in Japan, where her stepfather was serving with the U.S. Air Force. She modelled for Playboy and was the Playmate of the Month for the June 1980 issue. Her centerfold was photographed by Richard Fegley.
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Click on me for some fringe...You should watch this!!!! if you are only MJ interested go start @ 2:00 + ....
watch the whole series for rational paranoia!!!
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its funny nofx - i was researching that exact thing about the "we are the world" lyrics, "turning stone to bread", before i started researching the mj crescent moon thing. in the other mj thread i posted some pics from the performance of we are the world at the memorial, and the weird symbols displayed during it, and thats when i caught that part of the song and thought to myself, "thats a weird line. wtf is mj talkin about?". i remembered that way back in the day when we sang that song in school, i always assumed the line had to do with farmers, partly cuz in the video its willie nelson who sings that line. i remember he was associated with Farm Aid and mellencamp, so my mind made a connection between stone and bread and farmers. back then there was no internet, but since now there is - i looked into the origin of the phrase and here is what i found:
http://tinyurl.com/yz5xss
There comes a time When we head a certain call When the world must come together as one There are people dying And it's time to lend a hand to life The greatest gift of all
We can't go on Pretending day by day That someone, somewhere will soon make a change We are all a part of God's great big family And the truth, you know love is all we need
Chorus We are the world We are the children We are the ones who make a brighter day So let's start giving There's a choice we're making We're saving our own lives It's true we'll make a better day Just you and me
Send them your heart So they'll know that someone cares And their lives will be stronger and free As God has shown us by turning stone to bread So we all must lend a helping hand
Chorus We are the world We are the children We are the ones who make a brighter day So let's start giving There's a choice we're making We're saving our own lives It's true we'll make a better day Just you and me
When you're down and out There seems no hope at all But if you just believe There's no way we can fall Well, well, well, well, let us realize That a change will only come When we stand together as one
Chorus We are the world We are the children We are the ones who make a brighter day So let's start giving There's a choice we're making We're saving our own lives It's true we'll make a better day Just you and me
http://tinyurl.com/mtqlbs
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Well, the big thrill for me in resurrecting this tacky dinosaur is that I get to hear the one lyric that should go down in history as Exhibit A in how Hollywood celebrities are magnificently and almost charmingly out-of-touch with the most basic religious facts. What is that lyric, you ask? Remember when Willie Nelson gets his moment in the sun and comes in with his signature warble? He says: “As God has shown us… by turning stone to bread…” I’ll never forget hearing that for the first time. For me it was like hearing someone referring to President Richard M. Dixon. I couldn’t believe it. Had Willie Nelson just said that God had at one time “turned stone to bread”? Had I really heard that? Who’d written this lyric — and why had Willie sung it? I could only guess that the lyricist was Lionel Ritchie or the King of Pop himself. In any case, they had flubbed up rather majorly here. It was obvious that they mistakenly thought Jesus had at some point in his ministry performed this miracle… But as any non-Grammy-winning Fifth-grader knows from Sunday School, Jesus didn’t turn stone to bread — he refused to turn stone to bread. That’s an important difference.
But hadn’t someone suggested turning stone to bread? Whose idea was that? (Cue 80’s-era Churchlady voice): Satan’s?? That’s right, Churchlady: it was Satan’s idea. Most average Americans remember the famous scene from Scripture where Jesus is tempted in the wilderness. He is hungry, having fasted for forty days, and Satan suggests that he use his miraculous powers to turn “these stones into bread.” And Jesus refuses, saying: “Man does not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.” Whoops!
Anyway, Lionel and Michael and Quincy and Willie and everyone else on the risers seems to have missed this. Did Cyndi Lauper notice and not say anything? Or Dan Ackroyd? Or Ed Bradley? I doubt it. Certainly no one in the news media picked up on this whopping gaffe at the time, and as far as I know it’s never been mentioned since. Why? Well, mainly because the tiny group of Americans who are part of the much-vaunted media elites simply don’t know this sort of thing. And here’s the kicker — they don’t know anyone who knows it. It’s as if they are quarantined behind impenetrable pallisades of secularism — utterly protected from any molecules of Biblical knowledge or ideas. As if they are all Bubble People.
http://tinyurl.com/l8lfw8
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The Bible tells about an experience Jesus had early in his career when he was in the wilderness for 40 days without food (Matthew 4). The devil tempted him saying, "If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread." But Jesus refused this suggestion and replied, "It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God."
The Words and Works of Jesus Christ By J. Dwight Pentecost, John Danilson:
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some other religious/theological interpretations of the biblical bread/stones: http://tinyurl.com/lh7g57
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All of this leads to our reflection upon Jesus’ temptation in the wilderness regarding bread. The Tempter finds Jesus hungry in the wilderness and tempts him saying, “If you are the Son of God, turn these stones into bread.” This I take to be a seduction of the material, an enticement away from his first love of the spiritual. Jesus’ response? “Man cannot live by bread alone, but by every word which comes from the mouth of God.” Perhaps we could exist by bread alone. But live? Never! The word of God, not literal bread, is the sustenance necessary for true life. Thus he who is Word of God soon reveals himself as the Bread of Life, in time taken, blessed, broken, and given to us on a crude banquet table on a hill called Golgotha.
Yes, Jesus was tempted to turn stones into bread. But what about the reverse possibility? What about turning bread into stones? Make no mistake about it, throughout our ministries we too will be tempted, like Jesus, to place the material over the spiritual in our priorities. Turning stones into bread is a front for a global demonic operation which has long afflicted humans with street addictions such as materialism, workaholic-ism, hedonism, and yes, paganism. Naming demons frightens them, and us too, doesn’t it?
What do you think about “turning bread into stones?” Could that too be a dangerous seduction? If Jesus were tempted to transform cold, nutritionless stone into foodstuff, might not we be tempted to do the same? Yes, but also the reverse. To take the bread of life and turn it into useless stones—how might we do that? When might we fall into so grave a sin? It is already being done!
The sacred substance and sustenance of the Gospel is being challenged, as we speak, by the voices of some in the modern academy of biblical scholarship. The word (lower case “w”) and the Word (capital “W”) are for many no longer divine or divine-human. Is biblical teaching, for some, turning to stone? Shall the hungry cry out for bread, only to receive from our hands stone—cold, lifeless, nutritionless stone? I pray that you and I in this place, on this “holy ground” called Truett Theological Seminary, will reject the corrupting leaven of the Herodians and Sadducees. For to be sure, a purely secular worldview transforms the Bread of Life into the bread of death—for the founders of Christianity in the first century and for Christianity in the twenty-first century. “Beware the leaven of the Sadducees and Herodians,” Jesus said.
But the bread which gives life may be turned into stones not only by Neo-Sadducees and Herodians, but also by Neo-Pharisees. The letter of the law kills; the Spirit gives life. Upon what or whom will we hope? Let us be careful! Leaven, or teaching, or settled convictions affect the whole life. To reject fundamentalism is not to accept whatever the cultural winds may blow our way. By all means we stand against some things and for other things! Our culture is stuffed with information and starved for values. But we are the people of God, the body of Christ. So we beware the leaven of the Pharisees and the Sadducees and Herodians. Ironically, each group tramples morals and true spirituality while violating the first commandment, “Thou shalt have no other gods before me.” For they turn bread into stones, tragically exchanging the bread of life for the bread of idolatry. Unless our righteousness, Jesus warned, exceeds that of the Pharisees and Sadducees we will not see the kingdom of Heaven
Rather let us behold the Bread of Life. Let us reject secularism on the left and fundamentalism on the right. Let us embrace historic orthodox Christianity. For God has not left us clueless in Seattle or in Waco. God has revealed himself in Jesus Christ, the incarnate, crucified, risen, coming again Savior of the world. May we all repent of our appetites for evil and sinful leaven and receive the Bread of God. May we love the Lord our God with all our heart, soul, and mind. And may we, by God’s grace, love our neighbor as ourselves. Let us resist the yeast of the Tempter and accept the feast of the Savior. Let us, by God’s grace, refuse to turn bread into stones by rejecting both worldliness and religious dysfunction. Rather, may we accept the invitation to the grand banquet table set at Mount Calvary. There let us say in one accord, “Pass the Bread of Life please.” And let us hear the celestial words of our Host, “Take. Eat. This do in remembrance of me.” Updated Thursday, April 12, 2001
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so is michael jackson unaware of this crucial distinction? was it an oversight on his part when he (and lionel richie) wrote the song? or did they specifically intend the implication thats inferred by their verse? "As God has shown us by turning stone to bread" equals jesus having gratified his own personal desires instead of being obedient to god, which equals the devil having won. so the God in question would be the Devil, right? since He (christ) does turn to stone to bread, He is failing the test and giving in to the temptation to play the Devil's game, so its a world where Jesus fails and evil wins. thing is im not very well versed in theology and biblical history, so i cant say for sure what the deeper implications are according to mj's (and lionel richie's) lyrics. but like i said, i did find that line to be out of place.
btw - thanks again (nofx) for posting that video, it made a perfect segue for this post! the rest of the video's content i will reserve comment on until i've had a chance to really delve into the series. but the unique phrase you used, "rational paranoia" is very accurate.
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great post as usual...thanks 22205...
"Lee" probably wrote We R the World for them...
I also heard ( can't remember where ) that MJ would wake up every morning and have a whole pop song or two in his head ... he could write down all the lyrics...all the chords and melodies...like it was precomposed...
You know the old "sold my soul to the devil down at the crossroads" bit ? I think there is something to that ... The Jinn or Genie in a bottle ...just got to rub them the right way lol... make you famous, make you beautiful, make you rich, make you powerful...etc....all with a price of course...
There is a bunch of stuff out there on occult Hollywood and the corporate music industry activities...
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With the death of Michael Jackson, I decided to see if Fritz Springmeier, who exposed lots of things involving the music industry and mind control. After a quick search I came an interesting passage about Disney, which mentioned MJ. - Quote:
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For Mickey Mouse programming they came out with Thru the Mirror, where Mickey Mouse steps through his bedroom mirror and ends up in another world (altered state). Not all of the Disney movies that have mind-control programming themes got released to the public. One unreleased cartoon had Penelope fleeing from a sinister looking Grandfather Clock which is carrying her to another world, and has another scene where Penelope tries to hold onto someone who personifies the Wind. George Lucas, who directed the movie Star Wars, which was a movie planned by the Illuminati & used for Illuminati programming(1), also directed Disney’s movie "Captain EO". ...
It’s a New Age witchcraft film through & through. By the way, Michael Jackson has gone to Disney amusement parks many times, sometimes in disguise. It is public knowledge that his Jehovah’s Witness family has been very abusive mentally and physically to their children(2). Disney has put out several movies on how the mind works, such as the educational film The Brain & Nervous System in 1990. ...
The movie Hocus Pocus does some hocus pocus of its own. While pretending to make fun of witchcraft, they actually teach witchcraft(3). They do make the 3 witches look comical. By the way, the 3 witches stand for the maiden, mother, crone combo that the Illuminati reverence. Disney subtly works in deep occult things, such as the all-seeing eye on the cover of the book, the little girl promising the cat (who is a familiar spirit) that her descendants would always care for it (true, because the cat was a generational spirit). The cat is killed in the movie but can’t die. ...
The Disney capacity for deception extends to its own workers. PR men recruit young people for its Disney College program. They tell the young people what a great stepping stone it will be for their careers. They have been known to make it sound like the greatest thing in your life. Kids come from all over the country due to the slick recruiting tactics to work for Disney. They are then housed in Disney housing, given menial jobs, and paid low wages. Most people in the College Program leave disillusioned. If the worker happens to think of a great idea, Disney officials have been known to steal the idea, and because the worker was working for Disney the worker will find that they are unable to get any credit or money for the idea that Disney steals and makes millions off of. One uncredited creator of a Disney sale item said, "literally, they’re using everybody for everything." (Inside the Mouse, p. 239.) Taken from Bloodlines Of The Illuminati, pages 48 & 49I just thought I'd post it as it has to do with some big recent events, on Deadline Live yesterday, Jack Blood also brought up some suspicious circumstances surrounding the death(the podcast is AFR's website). Related articles http://www.illuminati-news.com/art-and-mc/field-of-art.htmhttp://www.illuminati-news.com/michael-jackson-on-trial.htm 1. BS: Star Wars was ripped off from a Book "Star Warriors" published in the early part of the 20th Century (circa 1920). Just look at the "quality" of 4-5-6 over the rubbish that was palmed off as 1-2-3. If the Illuminati were behind Star Wars, then we would have had all nine "intended" movies. I have a friend who has a copy of the original book, and when he finally re-discovers it, it is my intention to put a scan of the publishing page all over the 'net.
2. Child abuse is scarily common amongst JWs. "Spare the rod and spoil the child!" I have discovered sexual abuse of minors as well.
3. There is nothing intrinsically wrong with "Witchcraft"; it is simply the use to which it is put. Christendom teaches that the "wicked" is evil in order to further degrade people's self awareness of their own spiritual nature.
4. (The whole last paragraph.) Walt Disney himself paid his staff for good ideas. In Snow White when the dwarves discover Snow White and they're looking over the foot of the bed, each of their noses pops up one by one. The guy who suggested that got a fantastic bonus. So, I imagine, did the guy who thought up all the names for the dwarves--in the original story they are nameless. It now sounds like the executives that have replaced Walter have based their whole operation on L. Ron Hubbard's $cientology Sea Organization.
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