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Reluctant Facebooking; Repost it
Topic Started: Jun 25 2009, 03:16 AM (216 Views)
bretwalda

I hate Facebook. I hate seeing my friends and family sucked into that vortex crutch of minute by minute mindless diversion and contributing to it with their own posts and quiztaking. Reminds me of Thoreau's 'musty cheese quote.

I do enjoy stirring up that cesspool though. Maybe you do to. And it is making converts and creating a lot of cognitive dissonance in others. I once a week post a 'Note' which is usually a Top Ten Reads of the Week - culling the most interesting news from alternative media, or gov documents, vids, etc.

I'll start posting here the backend (html tags) version of those posts with the hope you'll find use for them on your own FB accounts. Putting tags into FB Notes is a PITA so this will save you some time.

My chief aim is to destroy the left/right paradigm (most of my friends are republican/evangelical and fundamentalist christians), but it gets pretty much into anything except the far out fringe crypto stuff.

The latest was a little different, a followup to a post I made that got a lot of feedback. Longer than usual... Feel free to edit and call it your own:

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<Photo 1>I posted a mouthful earlier yesterday and I'm prepared to back it up.

But first a reality check.

Over the last years was it not media pundits and foreign policy 'experts' (and I might add christian zionists mouthpieces) that were more than happy to advocate bombing Iran with NUCLEAR MISSLES, a weapon of massive and permanent desolation by way of 'collateral damage'. Were not these same beacons of consensus flashing us, even special-episoding us, with broad brush generalizations of Iranian society - wide angle clips of these insane barbarians that 'hate us', the Iranians, sitting in their mosques chanting 'death to the USA?'

Now are not these very same corporate airwave whores putting a human face to the poor oppressed citizenry of Iran - the very citizens whom only a few days ago would be the recipients of the more expedient 'final solution'?

Thought so. Why?

Nevermind that Iran is one of the most westernized islamic societies, most educated, most affluent, most progressive in the region. Nevermind that Iran has the largest faction of Jews of any country in the region second to Israel, who in spite of being offered $10,000 a head in bribes from christian and jewish zionist orgs to leave for Israel, <a href="http://www.imemc.org/article/49494">REFUSED THE OFFER.</a>

Nevermind also that following 9-11, <a href="http://www.newamerica.net/publications/articles/2006/what_we_wanted_to_tell_you_about_iran_4550#redacted">Iran offered unilateral support to the US in rooting out Al-Qaeda within and around their borders</a> (see "Redacted Text of Op-Ed" towards bottom) - which the State Dept. 'coincidentally' pooped on. Why?

Regarding the claims I made in my earlier quip... Before you accept or reject - I suggest people read from my last post the 'Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars' document, and also look into the history, use, and philosophy of the Hegelian Dialect. This is how events, and non-events are used by the ruling class for last hundreds of years (and arguable since recorded history) toward desire outcomes, the end game which is openly stated - global government totalitarianism. <b>Simply put Hegelian Dialectics uses the 'antithesis' to create 'synthesis', it's about creating dichotomies, pitting sides against each other, and working within both sides to create a desired result. Once you grasp this, and see how these kleptocratic governments of thievery laud this philosophy BY NAME - nothing will surprise you, and hopefully world affairs will touch your soul more intimately, because, you will then realize that if they have no problem sending 1.3 mil Iraqi's to their grave, no problem funding and instituting eugenics programs of both soft kill and hard kill natures around the globe, they definitely won't give a thought about coming after you - <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl9ES2p-ySA"> as we shall soon see</a> (Don't let crusty dude fool you - he's got it all down) </b>

So I said in my post: " Iran's revolution is a CIA funded, Al Qaeda colluded scam. Don't buy into the blood lust. Before bowing to the mind control feed tube airing "Neda's" death, ask yourself why we don't see women in the throws of death among the 1.3 million Iraqi dead... The 'opposition' Mousavi was a top dog during Iran's most ruthless and bloody period of recent history."


<b>On Mousavi:</b>

Mousavi got his seat at the Iranian political table in 81. <a href="http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/spytalk/2009/06/mousavi-celebrated-in-iranian.html">Made quite a name for himself</a> (Note again the Hegelianism going on in the last sentence)

<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8103851.stm">A real posterchild of <i>imposed</i> freedom and democracy in Iran.</a>

Facts. Before the polls closed pro-Mousavi outlets were declaring him the winner - before any votes were counted. So he went on stage and congratulated himself. Election poll sampling however show Ahmadinejad the easy winner.

<b>CIA History of Involvment in Iran</b>
<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/library/world/mideast/iran-cia-intro.pdf">CIA document: This goes back to 54, when the CIA and MI6 used terror and propaganda to overthrow the democratically elected prime minister whose election underscored the majority outcry against foreign oil interests running domestic policy in Iran and raping their resources.</a>

<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/library/world/mideast/041600iran-cia-index.html">More here.</a>

<b>US Covert Operations Involvement in the Current Crisis:</b>

<a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSB65580520080629">Rueters June, 2008: U.S. escalating covert operations against Iran</a> $400 million bucks - approved by Reps and Dems.

<a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-13577_3-10265825-36.html">State Dept. tells Twitter to delay maintenance</a>

<a href="http://www.voanews.com/english/archive/2006-04/2006-04-04-voa84.cfm?moddate=2006-04-04">$75 million for propaganda broadcasts into Iran</a>

<a href="http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:idaUKyCxhxYJ:www.ciaonet.org/pbei/winep/0002208/f_0002208_1317.pdf+us+support+iran+opposition&cd=7&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a">Funding opposition parties in Iran</a>

<a href="http://www.payvand.com/news/03/jun/1117.html">In spite of the rhetoric 78% of Iranian Americans do not support US sponsored regime change tactics</a>

<b>CIA Connected Terror Groups and Al Qaeda linked groups:</b>
People's Mujahedin of Iran (PMOI, also MEK, MKO) Allied with Sadam Hussein in 03. Removed from the terror list in January. Dedicated to a violent overthrow of Iran - now the main recipient of US funding of opposition groups in Iran. This thug squad really exemplifies the Hegelian strategy - look into it. The terrorist group had their own base of operation right next to camp Fallujah in Iraq - under protection of US military. Torture allegations by their own members who wanted out...

...PKK, Jundallah, PJAK, etc- al qaeda ties, CIA coddled, funded... - <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_activities_in_Iran">here's an overview.</a>

<a href="http://www.stratfor.com/analysis/20090529_iran_jundallah_and_geopolitics_irans_eastern_flank"> More on Jundallah</a>

<a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1552784/Bush-sanctions-black-ops-against-Iran.html">Jundsallah is out of Pakistan</a> Why Pakistan? Because Jundallah was started and run by Khalid Sheikh Mohammed - google him ;)

Lotsa sources on Jundallah's Al Qaeda ties <a href="http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Jundullah#Background here">here at the bottom - 'external links'</a>

I weary from the exercise - there so much out there - hidden in plain view...

<b>Regarding Al Qaeda.</b>

Al Qaeda is Wahhabi - a Sunni faction started by none other that British intelligence in the late 1700's to help maintain the Commonwealth. <a href="http://www.ummah.net/Al_adaab/British_Spy_Hempher.html">In his own words: Confessions of a British Spy & British Enmity Against Islam - Memoirs of an agent only known as 'Hempher'</a>

The CIA was pivotal to the foundation of Al Qaeda, they trained them and funded them. They flew them to the USA to train in explosives and covert (terror) methods. That is why it is no surprise to those that are aware that over half of the 'hijackers' on 9-11 had military bases as addresses on their drivers licenses. <a href="http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a091501militarytraining#a091501militarytraining:">News Archived Sources</a>

That is also why we find General Mahmoud Ahmad, Pakistan's ISI intelligence Chief, breaking bread with CIA chief George Tenet and elected reps- for breakfast on the morning of 9-11-01. After wiring $200,000 to Mohamed Atta in the days preceeding <a href="http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a091101mahmoodmeeting#a100701mahmoodreplaced">News Archived sources.</a>

I could go on but I don't have the time...Mossad training al qaeda in Saudi Arabia, US C-130s airlifting Talibani Al Qaeda forces out of Tora Bora to safety in Pakistan; custom, IDF issue only camera mounted sniper rifles taking out US troops in Iraq, look into the British MI6 in Basra in the early days of the Iraq war...big news at the time conveniently respun in western media - find out what they were doing...completely unguarded military caravans of new supplies shipments into Afghanistan, seized and used by Taliban forces (you can even watch vids of Taliban cruising in brand new heavy armored Humvees)...Its a wild world out there. Google it.

I'm all for revolution in Iran - But lets go with an organic one and not a western induced destabilization program - which time and time and time and time again produces the exact opposite of stated goals ...which conveniently, and coincidentally allows the Military Industrial Complex to spread its web (UP 75% world wide in proliferation since 2001) in anticipation of enforcing global government, among other things.

But believe what you will. <a href="http://www.infowars.com/bbc-caught-in-mass-public-deception-with-iran-propaganda/">Western mainstream media has no credibility in the reporting of these events however.</a> (BBC retracted the story after this piece was published). Might want to look at AIPAC and ADL funding of political figures in the US as well to learn more about why we do what we do.

Cheers.



Follow up comments I added (not tagged):

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Here's Brzezinski rallying the muhajadeen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJTv2nFjMBk

...Al Qaeda #2 says strike against Iran would be to their advantage: http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2008/04/al-qaeda-2-well/

...and while the WP was making laughable claims of hezbollah/al qaeda working together, the fact is they've declared war on each other: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11072373/

... http://www.prisonplanet.com/whistleblower-who-linked-taliban-leader-to-us-intelligence-is-assassinated.html
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I recently joined Facebook. After about only a month it has been disappointing. Contacted relatives I lost contact with and they added me as 'friend', only to have it end at that. They don't ask how things are, they don't even speak to each other. They just post shit about themselves. It's like they have blinders on and the whole thing is about them and their Narcissism.

Even some of my 'friends' have over 60 photo of themselves. It's like a big 'look at me 'contest. Nobody there is even a real friend to anyone. A lot of them are so wrapped up in Facebook, that they forget people are real. I always said that the internet would have a negative effect that way. I knew it a decade ago. I have one friend, who has so many people she could talk to in real life about her problems, but she would rather announce her complete laundry list on her 'Wall". It's sad, she thinks it's normal, and I'm thinking" Oh honey, you poor girl, you're so sweet and true, why are you doing this'?

I did some 'quizzes' myself when I first set up my profile. Joined like 100 "fan pages' in a one sitting. A month later I think to myself , "Ok now what...hardly anybody took my quizzes...i'm basically just wasting time". Then I TOTALLY felt like the biggest idiot...so I'm not perfect either.

People online are just avatars of their true self. It's sad. I wish we could reverse it but it's too late. Between that and Twitter, nobody seems to be changing anything. Those applications are good for business and artists like me, but not for political action or 'social networking'.

And you ever notice that people on the street seem more and more distant since all these chat and social sites came online?

Facebook is really getting big too with new applications and things to do. It's like Second Life....without the graphics. It's all about making YOU stand out and pretending that 150 people on your friends list really give a shit if you have a stroke or jump off a bridge. NOBODY has 150 friends. And if they do, it's too many. If people online are 'friends' then people I actually speak to and hang out with in bars or clubs, once considered acquaintances, would now qualify to be Best Man at my wedding I guess.

I was just thinking about this whole topic for the past few days so I'm right there on the line of thinking.
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Alter the experiment. I am slowly sneaking opinions and tidbits of info into my FB posts. Under favorite movies on my profile i list all movies related to 9/11 truth. i just posted for people to be wary about what is really going on in the world this week as the media keeps the masses entralled with Michael Jackson's sudden death.
No one has unfriended me yet!!
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I have a FB and I do try to use it to keep in touch with my friends. I've frequently stopped at a friends page I haven't heard from in a month or two and just make a simple post along the lines of: "Hey, just checking on you, family good, everything ok?" Sometimes the comments are returned, other times not. When they are not returned I do not let it bother me because I know that I made the effort.

In this world we are all so busy. I work full time, raise a family, workout, study 9/11, study linux. Frankly, most of the times on the weekend I would rather spend the time with my family than make journeys to friends houses to visit with them. Some would say that this is selfish and I would tend to agree. However, on the other hand. I spend WAY more time at work than I do with my family. Call it selfish, but they are #1 for me. Always will be. One of the things I always tell my 8 y/o daughter is that family is more important than friends. I remind her that for each of her birthdays all of the people that truly care about her are there. And they always will be. Why? Because they are family. And no matter what you do, your family should always love you.

That said, is it cruel for me to touch bases with my friends every once and a while? Is it cruel for me to appreciate time with my family more than time visiting with friends? I say no. I have had plenty of "friends" who disappear as soon as the things they want in me are not available to them any longer. Is that my fault? I'm not sure.

I do agree with CP regarding the narcissism some have on FB. However, the point I am making is that not everybody does that. As well, not every body has time to devout to visiting with friends with so many other things to do.
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I have never joined any of those types of sites. My friends are "people with whom I communicate on a friendly and equitable basis". I have several Youtube accounts (keeps different topics segregated), and when somebody submits a "friend request" I put 'em through the third degree before adding as "friend".

I have ONE Skype account and there are only about six people with access to it.

As far as "social networking" is concerned, I'm perfectly happy with the humble email.
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bretwalda

haven't done one of these in a while - feel free to use it. If you post it as is in FB 'Notes' section the links should show correctly:

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"There is some jiggery-pokery here, and it stinks to high heaven." ~ Lockerbie local...

My USB enabled BS meter nearly went into meltdown when the recent headlines proclaimed release of the Lockerbie bomber on 'compassionate grounds'.

The facts that remain unchallenged lead to the deduction that Lockerbie was a last resort hit on a man that knew too much and was on his way to deliver the goods to the US DOJ - US DIA Major Charles McKee (and four other DIA investigators). It was carried out by an arms and drug smuggler, Monzer al-Kassar, who was a CIA asset, and good buds with the Reagan era Rasputin, Ollie North. The hit, like all false flag events, also played well for US foreign policy. The only party that didn't have a foreign policy stake in the official strings of lies was Pan American Airlines. Pan Am's own investigation proved and concluded the aforementioned facts and motives.

The following links focus mainly on the 'official strings of lies' that has peppered the case since Y2K. It's fascinating because the opportunity is rare to have such depth in investigation from a mainstream news source, howbeit a minor one, the Scotsman, who had reporters on the ground and at every hearing, turn of events, and announcement.

(not necessarily in order of events)

• <a href="http://news.scotsman.com/lockerbie/Timeline-The-key-events-in.4695571.jp">Key events overview</a>

• <a href="http://news.scotsman.com/lockerbie/Identity-link-to-Lockerbie-bomb.2297107.jp">Identity link to Lockerbie bomb man ‘unreliable’</a>

• <a href="http://news.scotsman.com/lockerbie/Doubts-cast-on-key-evidence.2296102.jp">Doubts cast on key evidence of shopkeeper</a>

• <a href="http://news.scotsman.com/lockerbie/Lockerbie-trial-judges-ignored-inconsistencies.2297238.jp">Lockerbie trial judges ‘ignored inconsistencies’ </a>

• <a href="http://news.scotsman.com/lockerbie/Did-we-cage-the-wrong.2310625.jp">Did we cage the wrong man?</a>

• <a href="http://news.scotsman.com/lockerbie/Lockerbie-evidence-destroyed-claims-Dalyell.2313363.jp">Labour MP: Lockerbie evidence destroyed</a>

♫ <a href="http://news.scotsman.com/lockerbie/Police-chief-Lockerbie-evidence-was.2656485.jp">Former police chief says Lockerbie evidence faked</a>

• <a href="http://news.scotsman.com/lockerbie/Former-police-chief-says-Lockerbie.2656612.jp">More on police chief claims</a>

• <a href="http://news.scotsman.com/lockerbie/Coverup-conspiracy-and-the-Lockerbie.2752201.jp">Cover-up, conspiracy and the Lockerbie bomb connection</a>

• <a href="http://news.scotsman.com/lockerbie/FBI-ordered-McKie-case-swept.2756819.jp">FBI ordered McKie case 'swept under carpet'</a>

♫ <a href="http://news.scotsman.com/lockerbie/CIA-was-monitoring-drugs-man.2756817.jp">Pan Am: CIA 'was monitoring drugs man whose bag held bomb'</a>

• <a href="http://news.scotsman.com/lockerbie/Lockerbie-link-to-McKie-case.2752424.jp">Lockerbie link to McKie case puts pressure on Scottish judicial Executive</a>

• <a href="http://news.scotsman.com/lockerbie/Witness-kept-changing-story-.3299851.jp">Key witness Tony Gauci whose evidence is now considered to be unreliable, but it was enough to jail Megrahi for murder following the bombing.</a>

The big one:
♫ <a href="http://news.scotsman.com/lockerbie/Truth-revealed-on-Lockerbie-bomb.4139925.jp">Truth revealed on Lockerbie bomb timer</a>

• <a href="http://news.scotsman.com/lockerbie/Lockerbie-bombing-families-step-up.4595921.jp">Lockerbie bombing families step up calls for full enquiry</a>

• And again, like 9-11, 7-7, OK City...contrary to the picture that is popularly painted, victims families, who have vested interest in these events and therefore take to investigating the facts beyond what the tube tells them to think, <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/1600588.stm">overwhelmingly cry bull on the official story.</a>

• <a href="http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,975399,00.html">Time Magazine 1992 (11pgs) </a>-<b> "Washington says its Libya sabotaged the plane. Provocative evidence suggests that a Syrian drug dealer may have helped plant the bomb- and that the real targets were intelligence agents working for the CIA."</b>
...from my research, this is the first and last time that MSM from the US objectively investigated the facts surrounding the case.


Happy coincidenting.
Edited by bretwalda, Sep 9 2009, 01:38 AM.
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