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A message from Anonymous RE:Iran; Help spread the word
Topic Started: Jun 20 2009, 09:33 PM (807 Views)
JFK	Jun 22 2009, 10:17 PM Post #26
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22205	Jun 23 2009, 01:44 AM Post #27
Arlingtonian Posts: 443 Group: Members Member #24 Joined: 01/14/08	mumin I highly suspect that document that just so happened to be leaked and mass distributed. please finish your above thought, for it seems incomplete. mumin Additionally, given that Ahmedinijad was favored to win, I don't see how this was a fraudulent election. There is no evidence of foul play. All those protesters who have the green signs that say, "Where is my vote?", the answer is, "It was counted, but your guy lost". mumin Evidence of Western Intelligence Meddling in Iranian Elections: http://www.infowars.net/a...ne2009/220609Meddling.htm mumin, i wanted you to see how ironic it is that those echoing your particular sentiment about iran's election, are ex-CIA agents: Quote: "Ahmadinejad won. Get over it" By FLYNT LEVERETT AND HILLARY MANN LEVERETT \| 6/15/09 12:01 PM EDT Without any evidence, many U.S. politicians and “Iran experts” have dismissed Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s reelection Friday, with 62.6 percent of the vote, as fraud. They ignore the fact that Ahmadinejad’s 62.6 percent of the vote in this year’s election is essentially the same as the 61.69 percent he received in the final count of the 2005 presidential election, when he trounced former President Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani. The shock of the “Iran experts” over Friday’s results is entirely self-generated, based on their preferred assumptions and wishful thinking. source: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0609/23745.html who is Leverett? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynt_Leverett Quote: Flynt Leverett is a senior fellow at the New America Foundation in Washington, D.C. and a professor at the Pennsylvania State University School of International Affairs. From March 2002 to March 2003, he served as the senior director for Middle East affairs on the National Security Council. Prior to serving on the NSC, he was a counterterrorism expert on the State Department’s Policy Planning Staff, and before that he served as a CIA senior analyst for eight years. Since leaving government service, Leverett served as a visiting fellow at the Brookings Institution’s Saban Center for Middle East Policy before becoming the director of the Geopolitics of Energy Initiative in the American Strategy Program at the New America Foundation. Quote: Flynt Leverett - Senior Fellow; Director, Geopolitics of Energy Initiative, New America Foundation Flynt Leverett is a leading authority on U.S. foreign policy, the Middle East and the Persian Gulf, and global energy issues. From 1992 to 2003, he had a distinguished career in the U.S. government, serving as Senior Director for Middle East Affairs at the National Security Council, Middle East Expert on the Secretary of State's Policy Planning Staff, and Senior Analyst at the Central Intelligence Agency. He left the Bush administration and government service in the spring of 2003 because of disagreements about Middle East policy and the conduct of the war on terror more generally. He is a consultant to the World Economic Forum's “Gulf Cooperation Council and the World 2025” scenarios project and to the Club of Madrid on global energy issues. He is a peer reviewer for the International Energy Agency's World Energy Outlook. source: http://www.newamerica.net/people/flynt_leverett so you (like leverett) generalize recklessly about ahmadinejad's "victory" with no proof to back your assertion (though leveret did cite the last election's numbers, tho he takes for granted that those tallies too were more than likely fraudulent - there just wasnt as much uproar about it last time around). frankly we both know that such proof (of the exact and authentic vote tallies) would be impossible to find or obtain for any iranian election, especially with both of us sitting outside of iran. so its easy for you to throw around vague dismissals, meanwhile iranian lives and souls pay the price. mumin I would like to pose a question to everyone. Why is everyone so interested in the results of the Iranian elections? Where was the outrage from the International community when Hafiz Al-Assad, former president of Syria died, and his son, Bashar Al-Asad, inherited his presidency. How come no one challenged the fact that there were no elections and the presidency was passed down as if it were a monarchy? How come there were no outrages from the International community, when it was proven that the 2004 U.S. elections had been rigged? 2 wrongs dont make a right. when you speak of syria and the atrocities and injustices there, and of the lack of western attention or coverage, i sympathize with you and the people sufferring in that region (as they often suffer all over the middle east). but just because that didnt get the attention it deserved is no reason to resent that iran's current state of chaos has become such a hot topic currently (worldwide). of course there is a design behind why this issue would get so much western coverage and the others (like syria) didnt. imo its because america does NOT have a direct hand directly inside the current dispute in iran, so its safe for them to expose "iranians against iranians" it to the world, whereas with the assassination in syria, the usa probably did have direct involvement, so they kept it quiet. regardless man, i dont know how much you know about iran's recent history (last 35 years), but i think you might be missing a huge chunk of the reason for why people in iran are fed up (possibly because for 20+ years there has been little to no coverage or acknowledgment of it in). but this uprising is not really about this election, even if the election has become the catalyst for people to finally have the COURAGE to express their outrage. the outrage has been there for a long while man, and it is fully justified. i have personally tasted it first hand: the iron heel of the basij's boot in my ribs at the age of 7, when they came to my grandmother's home and blindfolded us, tied our hands, and yelled obsceneties and accusations at me and my 3 older uncles who were there. they searched the house and found a few pieces of literature belonging to the mko/mek/ncri (the site about nedah that jfk linked to is theirs). so after wrecking the place and leaving it shambles, we were led into a paddy wagon, where we were tightly packed in with what felt like more than a dozen other young men from our neighborhood. somewhere on the edge of town (the city began to end and highway started) me, my 2 younger uncles (13 and 14 in age) and another boy (davoud) also aged 14, were thrown out of the vehicle (they were kind enough to stop). only my hands and my blindfold were undone (perhaps cuz i was the youngest) and i had to untie everyone else as we began our long walk home (no phones and no one in our families owned cars). my one uncle, who was 20 at the time, i did not see again. he was sentenced to 8 years in the nazi built prison EVIN. i left iran in 84, and he still had half his sentence to serve. during those 4 years i was there, 3 more of my direct relatives (one of them a woman aged 22) were thrown in prison over lies and bullshit. they all lived and were lucky, for they were NOT actually active in any resistance movement, they were just in possession of propaganda. those men and women who had any actual affliations with the leftists (the monafeghs) or the mko (mujahedeen) were tortured heavily for information, and eventually executed. the numbers of people this happened to would blow your mind. mothers all over iran, like my own grandmother, are hungry for the blood of these mullahs, these thieves, these murderers. its not about an election, its about 30 years of deceit and torture and oppression. my childhood was spent in those bloody times and everyday i was in the thick of it, from home life (with our worries and fears for our imprisoned relatives and our paranoia that everything we did was under surveillance), to my daily walks to school where pockets of resistance would have shoot outs in guerilla warfare on the streets of shemroon/shemiran (north tehran). ahmadinejad came later, after my time in iran, but he's no different for he is an extension and a servant for those who are directly responsible for me and my family's (and countless others') sufferring. iran is a powder keg of negative energy and hatred against these vampires. the only people who follow them are peasants, uneducated fools from the rural parts of iran who have been bought and brainwashed. educated and modern people of iran know iran needs to move into the world stage on a diplomatic tone and in economic harmony with the rest of the world. they want this backassward islam of centuries ago to catch up with the times or get the fuck out. they cant take the oppression anymore, but when it comes to dying or living hard - most people choose to live hard almost everytime (no one wants to be dead). imo - without guns or help from outside, even those willing to die stand a very slim chance of deposing these evil doers. and america is working directly with the mullah regime, so nothing is gonna change in iran unless the iranians themselves give thousands of lives to fight legions of trained armed guards and soldiers on their way to where these mullahs live/stay and can finally be apprehended in the flesh and made to answer, then suffer. btw - my father heavily disagrees. he feels that if the merchants and businesses of iran shut down, and the whole country brought to an economic and business standstill, that then the people can leverage that to get some positive results. he believes that what i prescribe, armed resistance and outright attack, is exactly what the mullahs want: justification for all out lawless murder. my father believes that alot of the violent protestors in iran are actually provocateurs. he believes that the majority of people wanted to have peaceful protest and that a few trouble makers, possibly inside-jobbers (so to speak) were going around causing mayhem intentionally to serve as a pretext for the henchmen to do their bidding to the peaceful protestors. i defer to his insights for he knows a thing or two about a thing or two, but he wasnt there for 5 years in the early 80's and didnt taste the pain directly (like i did), so maybe its easy for him to speak of diplomatic and more civilized solutions.



22205	Jun 23 2009, 01:51 AM Post #28
Arlingtonian Posts: 443 Group: Members Member #24 Joined: 01/14/08	MOHAMMAD ASGARI: http://baarswestside.blogspot.com/2009/06/mohammad-asgari-interior-ministry_22.html (links to facebook where the alleged pic of asgari can be found) album: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=1892461&id=732195339&ref=nf#/photo.php?pid=1892461&id=732195339 (must be logged in to see) another pic from that album: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=1892461&id=732195339#/photo.php?pid=1854515&id=732195339 (must be logged in to see) the facebook page links to this: http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/20090617/iran-election-results-iranian.htm Quote: An Iranian man said to have released the genuine result of last Friday's presidential election is reported to have been killed in a suspicious car accident. Mohammad Asgari, who worked for the Iranian interior ministry to protect the security of its IT network allegedly released results showing that the government used new software to rig the result, reports the Guardian's Saeed Kamali Dehghan, citing unconfirmed reports. so the source article for the unconfirmed report of asgari's death is the guardian uk: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jun/17/iran-protests-crackdown http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jun/17/fresh-iran-protests-planned1 Quote: There were also unconfirmed reports that Mohammad Asgari, who was responsible for the security of the IT network in Iran's interior ministry, was killed yesterday in a suspicious car accident in Tehran. Asgari had reportedly leaked evidence that the elections were rigged to alter the votes from the provinces. Asgari was said to have leaked information that showed Mousavi had won almost 19m votes, and should therefore be president. i was able to find one (and only one) source that claims the death of asgari to have been confirmed, though obviously they are biased in favor of it being true: http://www.mir-hosseinmousavi.com/news.html Quote: Thursday 18th June 2009 Peaceful protest took place today. Most people wore black. The people who were killed in the last few days were remembered during the protest Media coverage was restricted and therefore coverage was minimal. Confirmation that Mohammad Asgari, head of security of the IT network was killed It is reported that Mohammad Asgari was first to expose the real election results Supreme Leader Meets with Representatives of Presidential Candidates. Hundreds of thousands were on the streets of Tehran. Mir Hossein Mousavi made an appearance in which he addressed the crowd to help ascertain how "officially" iranian the above site is: http://whois.domaintools.com/mir-hosseinmousavi.com the site was created on 4/8/2009, ip is in the UK, domain registered anonymously thru american company. sorry but not very solid. so for now this death/murder is still a rumor pending confirmation. rumor partially disspelled/debunked (the pic at least): regarding that picture from facebook that is allegedly of an IT guy in iran who leaked the election results, i have found that picture actually belongs to a surgeon named Mohammad Asghari: http://drfmemari.com/about.html http://drfmemari.com/images/Dr.Asghari.jpg دکتر علي محمد اصغري جراح و متخصص گوش و حلق و بینی translation: Dr. Ali Mohammad Asghari surgeon and ear nose and throat specialist also, on his own page, dr.asghari: http://www.dr-asghari.com/ http://www.dr-asghari.com/index-e.htm (cv) pic of allegedly murdered asghari and dr.asghari compared: as mentioned before, i must warn against falling prey to the various sides trying to manipulate public perception and emotion in this matter. please take everything you hear and read (or see) with a grain of salt, regardless of what it alleges. unfortunately, any real truth will also be suspect and hard to authenticate, and thats exactly the objective of flooding the net with disinfo: make it hard to figure out exactly what the truth is. thought this could come in handy: list of iranian news sites: http://www.onlinenewspapers.com/iran.htm google (alpha) persian/english translator: http://translate.google.com/translate_t#fa\|en\| *



Mumin	Jun 23 2009, 11:44 AM Post #29
Posts: 197 Group: Members Member #79 Joined: 01/16/08	I am looking at it from a different angle. Israel has been wanting the U.S. to attack Iran for the past two years. Isn't it possible that this entire "revolution" was created to open the door for a regime change?
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JFK	Jun 23 2009, 01:09 PM Post #30
Posts: 4,110 Group: Admins Member #108 Joined: 01/17/08	Possible, but unlikely. Getting back to the opening post, A site collecting protester info hosted at theplanet was removed this morning. This was anonymous' doing. Quote: Thanks for your note. We appreciate hearing from you and want to let you know that we no longer host this site. We have compliance programs and an Acceptable Use Policy here at The Planet, where we host 17.8 million Web sites in our eight data centers. We regularly review customer accounts to determine if sites violate U.S. law. The messages we receive through our Abuse Department are also closely evaluated. If we discover there is a credible threat or some type of pending harm, we notify the appropriate authorities and take remedial measures. We may also take action by disabling or removing the site, as we did with www.bultannews.com. Sincerely, Yvonne
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Mumin	Jun 24 2009, 12:49 AM Post #31
Posts: 197 Group: Members Member #79 Joined: 01/16/08	JFK Jun 23 2009, 01:09 PM Possible, but unlikely. I think its more than plausible that special interests are trying to destabilize Iran. http://www.infowars.com/soros-the-cia-mossad-and-the-new-media-destabilization-of-iran/
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truthisgood	Jun 24 2009, 02:29 AM Post #32
Posts: 11 Group: Members Member #117 Joined: 01/18/08	Regarding the video of the young girl that seems to be getting a lot of attention and sympathy: Did I fall asleep or go into a temporary coma and miss something significant? What's going on here? We know Iran is part of "their" agenda. "They" tried during the previous administration to get their way with Iran and failed. They're at it again. After the volumes of knowledge gained through extensive research since 9/11 have some of us learned nothing about the propaganda techniques of the PTB? How do we know this video is real? How quickly we seem to have forgotten the BIG FAKE VIDEO during poppa Bush's reign, the one with the young woman crying about babies being thrown into the streets. Or am I simply on information overload and missing the point altogether! This whole Iran thing that's happening right now is NUTS. It's propaganda. Period. Edited to add - The above is mostly directed at JFK's comments about the situation. If I'm misunderstanding your position JFK then I apologize. It's just that with this, and other posts I've been reading on some 9/11 sites, I'm not getting the sense that the word Propaganda is even being considered. Edited by truthisgood, Jun 24 2009, 02:40 AM.
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JFK	Jun 24 2009, 09:12 AM Post #33
Posts: 4,110 Group: Admins Member #108 Joined: 01/17/08	truthisgood Jun 24 2009, 02:29 AM How do we know this video is real? How quickly we seem to have forgotten the BIG FAKE VIDEO during poppa Bush's reign, the one with the young woman crying about babies being thrown into the streets. Or am I simply on information overload and missing the point altogether! This whole Iran thing that's happening right now is NUTS. It's propaganda. Period. Edited to add - The above is mostly directed at JFK's comments about the situation. If I'm misunderstanding your position JFK then I apologize. It's just that with this, and other posts I've been reading on some 9/11 sites, I'm not getting the sense that the word Propaganda is even being considered. What is it that you consider fake in this video ? Yes I have seen the "debunk" video claiming that it was someone pouring a liquid from a bag... My conclusion is the "bag" is a bloody palm, and the first sign of blood is from the wrong corner of the mouth to support that theory.
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JFK	Jun 24 2009, 10:56 AM Post #34
Posts: 4,110 Group: Admins Member #108 Joined: 01/17/08	Audio of a woman in Iran ripped from CNN http://209.85.62.24/309/115/0/p175936/Iran_1.wav Edit to add - Edited by JFK, Jun 24 2009, 11:35 AM.
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Mumin	Jun 24 2009, 11:42 AM Post #35
Posts: 197 Group: Members Member #79 Joined: 01/16/08	The video is real, but if the U.S. attacks Iran, be prepared for hundreds of thousands of 'Neda's, just like the 1,000,000+ women and children that have been killed in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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JFK	Jun 24 2009, 11:46 AM Post #36
Posts: 4,110 Group: Admins Member #108 Joined: 01/17/08	Mumin Jun 24 2009, 11:42 AM The video is real, but if the U.S. attacks Iran, be prepared for hundreds of thousands of 'Neda's, just like the 1,000,000+ women and children that have been killed in Iraq and Afghanistan. Agreed.
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Flippy	Jun 24 2009, 11:57 AM Post #37
Posts: 559 Group: Members Member #8 Joined: 01/12/08	JFK what is the context of the audio rip you posted?
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JFK	Jun 24 2009, 12:09 PM Post #38
Posts: 4,110 Group: Admins Member #108 Joined: 01/17/08	Flippy Jun 24 2009, 11:57 AM JFK what is the context of the audio rip you posted? Woman in Iran on phone with CNN at the place where it happened... In the original CNN report which I did not record she also said that the basij were also using axes on people and CNN appears to have censored that portion in subsequent repeats.
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Lin Kuei	Jun 26 2009, 10:49 AM Post #39
Posts: 1,290 Group: Admins Member #5 Joined: 12/22/07	Now CNN are reporting this story: Quote: Iranian envoy: CIA involved in Neda's shooting? updated 8:05 p.m. EDT, Thu June 25, 2009 MEXICO CITY, Mexico (CNN) -- The United States may have been behind the killing of Neda Agha-Soltan, the 26-year-old Iranian woman whose fatal videotaped shooting Saturday made her a symbol of opposition to the June 12 presidential election results, the country's ambassador to Mexico said Thursday. Neda Agha-Soltan, 26, was shot to death in Tehran on Saturday. "This death of Neda is very suspicious," Ambassador Mohammad Hassan Ghadiri said. "My question is, how is it that this Miss Neda is shot from behind, got shot in front of several cameras, and is shot in an area where no significant demonstration was behind held?" He suggested that the CIA or another intelligence service may have been responsible. "Well, if the CIA wants to kill some people and attribute that to the government elements, then choosing women is an appropriate choice, because the death of a woman draws more sympathy," Ghadiri said. In response, CIA spokesman George Little said, "Any suggestion that the CIA was responsible for the death of this young woman is wrong, absurd and offensive." Though the video appeared to show that she had been shot in the chest, Ghadiri said that the bullet was found in her head and that it was not of a type used in Iran. "These are the methods that terrorists, the CIA and spy agencies employ," he said. "Naturally, they would like to see blood spilled in these demonstrations, so that they can use it against the Islamic Republic of Iran. This is of the common methods that the CIA employs in various countries." But, he added, "I am not saying that now the CIA has done this. There are different groups. It could be the [work of another] intelligence service; it could be the CIA; it could be the terrorists. Anyway, there are people who employ these types of methods." Asked about his government's imposition of restrictions on reporting by international journalists, Ghadiri blamed the reporters themselves. "Some of the reporters and mass media do not reflect the truth," he said. For example, he said, international news organizations have lavished coverage on demonstrations by supporters of Mir Hossein Moussavi, whom the government has said lost to the incumbent President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad by a landslide. But those same news organizations have not shown "many, many demonstrations in favor of the winner," he said. Further, he said, members of the international news media have failed to report on people setting banks and buses afire or attacking other people. "The only things they show are the reactions of the police," he said. Because of restrictions on reporting in Iran, CNN has been unable to confirm many of the reports and claims relating to protests. Ghadiri said it is only fair that security forces protect the lives and property of the Iranian people. "If in America supporters of Mr. McCain had gotten out on the street and tried to burn the banks during the last election, do you think the police would just sit idly by and be a spectator?" he asked, referring to the GOP presidential candidate who lost the presidential vote in November to Barack Obama. Ghadiri called on backers of Moussavi to "accept the majority's victory." Ahmadinejad's overwhelming victory was no surprise, Ghadiri said, noting that a poll published in the United States three weeks before the June 12 elections showed Ahmadinejad with a commanding lead. "Why don't you show that?" he asked. Ghadiri also addressed questions about the rapid reporting of the election results, which the opposition has cited as evidence that the ballots were not properly counted. "It wasn't said that only four people counted the 40 million votes," he said. "There were tens of thousands of people in Iran who counted these votes. They declared that this is very simple." http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/06/25/iran.ambassador/
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JFK	Jun 26 2009, 11:12 PM Post #40
Posts: 4,110 Group: Admins Member #108 Joined: 01/17/08	NiteOwl This video has been called a fake multiple times - yet it is not. Everyone points to the date at the bottom and says it's 21 years old. The date underneath is NOT March 03, 1988. It's 26 Khordad 1388, which coincides with Tuesday, June 16, 2008 when protesters were out on the streets demanding a reelection. The SAT with the date isn't for Saturday. For further authenticity, check out the speaker. It's Ali Larijani. He's only been speaker of the Majlis since May 2008. The MP in question is Hajsheikh Alikhani. The video speaks for itself. Read the subtitles for what's in it. I only certify its authenticity. - NiteOwl P.S. At the end, the speaker keeps saying, "You've run out of time. Please stop." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7l1MruLmgE
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Q	Jul 27 2009, 10:29 AM Post #41
A Higher Evolution Posts: 519 Group: Members Member #12 Joined: 01/13/08	JFK Jun 20 2009, 09:33 PM Quote: Hello, leaders of Iran. We are Anonymous. ... As your people continue to riot and to speak out against you; as you continue to beat and shoot your own citizens in the street; as you continue to lie to the face of the entire world; know that the internet is watching - and we do not like what we see. Knowledge is free. We are Anonymous. We are Legion. We do not forgive. We do not forget. Expect us. This whole phenomenon of "Anonymous" as it spreads from city to city and country to country is fascinating to watch. There is something astonishingly scary about having 50-100 masked people standing quietly, chanting nothing, harrassing no one. It's nice to see that they've expanded their horizons.



JFK	Jul 27 2009, 11:03 AM Post #42
Posts: 4,110 Group: Admins Member #108 Joined: 01/17/08	Q Jul 27 2009, 10:29 AM JFK Jun 20 2009, 09:33 PM Quote: Hello, leaders of Iran. We are Anonymous. ... As your people continue to riot and to speak out against you; as you continue to beat and shoot your own citizens in the street; as you continue to lie to the face of the entire world; know that the internet is watching - and we do not like what we see. Knowledge is free. We are Anonymous. We are Legion. We do not forgive. We do not forget. Expect us. This whole phenomenon of "Anonymous" as it spreads from city to city and country to country is fascinating to watch. There is something astonishingly scary about having 50-100 masked people standing quietly, chanting nothing, harrassing no one. It's nice to see that they've expanded their horizons. Actually they have split in much the same way as the truth movement has. The "chanology" faction wants nothing to do with Iran and is in fact ridiculing those that do.
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skunkrider	Jul 27 2009, 11:51 AM Post #43
Posts: 326 Group: Members Member #166 Joined: 01/21/08	I still don't get what's going on in Iran.. One thing's for sure: there's no 'green' revolution going on.. same bullshit as what we were told was happening in the Ukraine. One more thing: twitter and twitters can't be trusted anymore than Google News. is my comment actually concurring or denying the purpose of this thread?
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Q	Jul 28 2009, 05:55 AM Post #44
A Higher Evolution Posts: 519 Group: Members Member #12 Joined: 01/13/08	JFK Jul 27 2009, 11:03 AM Actually they have split in much the same way as the truth movement has. The "chanology" faction wants nothing to do with Iran and is in fact ridiculing those that do. As far as I am aware, very few of the "chans" are even involved in the Anonymous movement at all any more. It's weird. One would expect the Chanologists to be emitting squeals of glee that something they started has "given birth" to a world-wide movement, but sadly they've become a bunch of bitter "/b/tards" who just want to bitch about their idea being "stolen".



JFK	Jul 28 2009, 08:44 AM Post #45
Posts: 4,110 Group: Admins Member #108 Joined: 01/17/08	skunkrider Jul 27 2009, 11:51 AM I still don't get what's going on in Iran.. One thing's for sure: there's no 'green' revolution going on.. same bullshit as what we were told was happening in the Ukraine. One more thing: twitter and twitters can't be trusted anymore than Google News. is my comment actually concurring or denying the purpose of this thread? The best source of information is here - http://iran.whyweprotest.net/green-brief/ With reporters being either thrown out of Iran or being jailed in Iran your google news is useless.
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Aldo Marquis CIT	Jul 28 2009, 11:19 AM Post #46
Posts: 1,641 Group: Members Member #13 Joined: 01/14/08	JFK Jun 20 2009, 09:33 PM Quote: We are Anonymous. We are Legion. We do not forgive. We do not forget. Expect us. Sounds like the person who runs the 'Who is Killtown' site or whatever it is called. They use the same exact rhetoric. Probably Col Jenny Sparks trying to feel important. I wouldn't let this get you riled up. This is what they want. Anger only begets war. The people of Iran would worse off with some type of "intervention" from the outside.
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JFK	Jul 28 2009, 11:52 AM Post #47
Posts: 4,110 Group: Admins Member #108 Joined: 01/17/08	Aldo Marquis CIT Jul 28 2009, 11:19 AM JFK Jun 20 2009, 09:33 PM Quote: We are Anonymous. We are Legion. We do not forgive. We do not forget. Expect us. Sounds like the person who runs the 'Who is Killtown' site or whatever it is called. They use the same exact rhetoric. Probably Col Jenny Sparks trying to feel important. I wouldn't let this get you riled up. This is what they want. Anger only begets war. The people of Iran would worse off with some type of "intervention" from the outside. I totally agree if you are speaking of "active intervention" such as putting troops on the ground there, and so do the Iranian people. There is however the option of "inactive intervention" such as sanctions for example which could be effective if directed at the current regime's needs.
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skunkrider	Jul 28 2009, 11:54 AM Post #48
Posts: 326 Group: Members Member #166 Joined: 01/21/08	JFK Jul 28 2009, 08:44 AM skunkrider Jul 27 2009, 11:51 AM I still don't get what's going on in Iran.. One thing's for sure: there's no 'green' revolution going on.. same bullshit as what we were told was happening in the Ukraine. One more thing: twitter and twitters can't be trusted anymore than Google News. is my comment actually concurring or denying the purpose of this thread? The best source of information is here - http://iran.whyweprotest.net/green-brief/ With reporters being either thrown out of Iran or being jailed in Iran your google news is useless. sorry JFK, but this doesn't fit your 'normal' behaviour at all.. you're so reserved and cool and relaxed on the forum, no matter the topic.. and bam!, there's the green revolution and off you go.. Iran is a sovereign country, no intervention, no intermezzo, not any excuse to invade, period. btw. I don't get my alternative news from Google News Edited by skunkrider, Jul 28 2009, 11:55 AM.
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JFK	Jul 28 2009, 12:00 PM Post #49
Posts: 4,110 Group: Admins Member #108 Joined: 01/17/08	skunkrider Jul 28 2009, 11:54 AM JFK Jul 28 2009, 08:44 AM skunkrider Jul 27 2009, 11:51 AM I still don't get what's going on in Iran.. One thing's for sure: there's no 'green' revolution going on.. same bullshit as what we were told was happening in the Ukraine. One more thing: twitter and twitters can't be trusted anymore than Google News. is my comment actually concurring or denying the purpose of this thread? The best source of information is here - http://iran.whyweprotest.net/green-brief/ With reporters being either thrown out of Iran or being jailed in Iran your google news is useless. sorry JFK, but this doesn't fit your 'normal' behaviour at all.. you're so reserved and cool and relaxed on the forum, no matter the topic.. and bam!, there's the green revolution and off you go.. Iran is a sovereign country, no intervention, no intermezzo, not any excuse to invade, period. btw. I don't get my alternative news from Google News I agree with the bolded, and had you been following the events you would know that the people of Iran feel the same way. This is their battle, and they know it... However they do want the outside world to know what is happening.
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truthisgood	Jul 28 2009, 06:37 PM Post #50
Posts: 11 Group: Members Member #117 Joined: 01/18/08	Skunkrider said- Quote: sorry JFK, but this doesn't fit your 'normal' behaviour at all.. My reaction also.
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