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| A message from Anonymous RE:Iran; Help spread the word | |
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| Topic Started: Jun 20 2009, 09:33 PM (808 Views) | |
| JFK | Jun 20 2009, 09:33 PM Post #1 |
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| BoneZ | Jun 20 2009, 10:29 PM Post #2 |
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Amen. |
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| JFK | Jun 20 2009, 10:30 PM Post #3 |
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Torrent file HERE. ![]() ( You must have a bit torrent client already set up to use the above link ) Caution - Graphic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJ45l4RKE8o
Edited by JFK, Jun 21 2009, 12:54 PM.
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| skunkrider | Jun 21 2009, 04:49 AM Post #4 |
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it's hard for me to look through the mist of the information war when it comes to Iran. the idea of people fighting against a stolen election sounds just too romantic for me, too cushioning, too "well, they tried! and they were beaten back violently, now we as the West need to help"... also the Western media says the Iranian GOP uses media manipulation to create the impression of more people supporting Ahmadinedjad, while people from the internet (and this forum) have expressed concerns that western media actually does the same (BBC..) are we shepherded into another war, this time against Iran? honestly, i'm sick of all the games, just give us an honest and nice early armageddon instead
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| JFK | Jun 21 2009, 09:57 AM Post #5 |
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| mynameis | Jun 21 2009, 10:32 AM Post #6 |
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Internet Jujitsu
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Protests attack on Basij compound Basij fight back. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjzTMeETd5Q Iran after election 2009 Paramilitary Basiji Shooting at Civilians http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gfKyzfPKao |
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| JFK | Jun 21 2009, 10:54 AM Post #7 |
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http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/1819769/1/ |
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| mike_abcd | Jun 21 2009, 11:07 AM Post #8 |
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wouldn't be surprised years later if we find out that the conflicts r funded by some intelligence agencies/contras/military industrial complex just like the iran contra affair/nicaraguan contra/'british patsies dressed up like iraqis' aggravating the conflict in iraq and on and on |
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| Mumin | Jun 21 2009, 04:12 PM Post #9 |
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I've been silent on the issue, but why do Westerners care about the election results? The president in Iran is analogous to the royal family of England. They are essentially a facade. Iran is an "Islamic" republic (I use quotation marks, because they are Shi'ahs), so the Ayatollahs are the ones who regulate the laws and the president has little power. It doesn't matter who is elected in Iran. Secondly, the opposition party constituted a far smaller minority. I don't see how Mir Hossein Messwhateverhisnameis could have won the election. |
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| JFK | Jun 21 2009, 04:35 PM Post #10 |
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Actually it is a "theocratic republic". Should we not care about injustice such as was demonstrated this past week against peaceful protestors by the Basij ( hired guns of Ahmadinejad ) ? Perhaps you are able to translate this. ![]() That should answer the rest of your question.
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| 22205 | Jun 21 2009, 10:35 PM Post #11 |
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jfk, i have no issue with the allegation that iran's majority votes for mousavi were fraudulently dismissed and or not counted. so i am in agreement with those (iranians) who are outraged and feel disenfranchised as a result of ahmadinejad's swindle. but regarding the alleged documentation you posted, i see some anomallies that make it suspect and i would like shed some light on them. my understanding (via translation) of the text of that document is that it is a final vote tally for the election. it is allegedly written by and signed by the minister of the interior, sadeq mahsouli and is addressed to supreme leader khamenei. included are exact numbers for the election results, with mousavi having almost 4 times as many votes as ahmadinejad. for the minister of the interior to post these numbers, would be considered an outright act of defiance and provocation towards ahmadinejad and khamenei. basically this document, if authentic and true, would serve to undermine those who are being of accused of having fraudulently stolen this election, namely ahmadinejad and khamenei (who endorsed ahmadi's "victory"). so whats odd or doesnt make sense is that sadeq mahsouli (minister of interior) was appointed by ahmadinejad himself months ago, which is highly suspected (by iranians now) to be in preparation for stealing this electoral victory. for mahsouli to have presented a document with the above tallies would roughly be the equivalent of KATHERINE HARRIS (link1, link2) coming in out in 2000 and saying that the numbers indeed showed Gore to be the victor in florida (and thus the nation). back to iran (mahsouli and ahmadinejad) here are some relevant links: http://tinyurl.com/nmw4re
then there is this: http://www2.irna.ir/fa/news/view/line-16/0906124146191504.htm
now - since mahsouli is (for the most part) a shill for ahmadinejad, the above tallies seem alot more credible as far as what mahsouli would have reported, as opposed to the ones below:
-compare them to the numbers presented in the iranian press release and none of them match. im not saying either (or any) of the vote tallies is accurate, since i believe the results to have been tampered with and or fraudulent. but i feel the need to warn against being tricked by the information war thats being waged by the various sides with something at stake in this issue. but from my personal understanding of things (specifically mahsouli's relationship to ahmadinejad and khamenei) i find it very unlikely that the iranian document is authentic. *** more about mahsouli: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Sadeq+Mahsouli&aq=f&oq=&aqi= more about mahsouli and ahmadinejad's direct relationship: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Sadeq+Mahsouli+interior+%22ahmadinejad%27s+nominee%22&aq=f&oq=&aqi= Edited by 22205, Jun 21 2009, 10:42 PM.
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| JFK | Jun 21 2009, 11:11 PM Post #12 |
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Yes, there has been a debate going on elsewhere about the authenticity of that document since I posted it. The proported origins are described here http://cbs5.com/national/iran.presidential.elections.2.1049651.html |
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| JFK | Jun 21 2009, 11:52 PM Post #13 |
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Semi off topic but interesting. http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/apr/13/europe39s-telecoms-aid-with-spy-tech/?feat=article_top10_read |
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| 22205 | Jun 22 2009, 12:03 AM Post #14 |
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i noticed neither of the sites (the one u linked links to a uk article) mentions anything about mahsouli's ties to ahmadinejad and the direct impact that has on evaluating the authenticity of the document. but thanks for the link jfk! |
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| Mumin | Jun 22 2009, 11:13 AM Post #15 |
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I highly suspect that document that just so happened to be leaked and mass distributed. Additionally, given that Ahmedinijad was favored to win, I don't see how this was a fraudulent election. There is no evidence of foul play. All those protesters who have the green signs that say, "Where is my vote?", the answer is, "It was counted, but your guy lost". It seems that Western countries support democratic elections, as long as their guy wins. Look at Hamas. |
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| EOR | Jun 22 2009, 11:19 AM Post #16 |
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I wish Anonymous would have written a letter to Bush when he was "elected" and began to rape the world.
Edited by EOR, Jun 22 2009, 11:19 AM.
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| JFK | Jun 22 2009, 12:22 PM Post #17 |
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And then some... http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article6553843.ece
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| Mumin | Jun 22 2009, 12:43 PM Post #18 |
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Evidence of Western Intelligence Meddling in Iranian Elections: http://www.infowars.net/articles/june2009/220609Meddling.htm |
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| JFK | Jun 22 2009, 01:52 PM Post #19 |
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Well mumin, I for one am glad that you have shown your true colors by supporting this. http://ncr-iran.org/content/view/6554/170/ ![]() |
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| Mumin | Jun 22 2009, 03:12 PM Post #20 |
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I don't support a slain girl, if that's what you are implying.... That would be ridiculous. I believe that the whole "revolution" was concocted and innocent people are suffering in this. |
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| Mumin | Jun 22 2009, 03:25 PM Post #21 |
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I would like to pose a question to everyone. Why is everyone so interested in the results of the Iranian elections? Where was the outrage from the International community when Hafiz Al-Assad, former president of Syria died, and his son, Bashar Al-Asad, inherited his presidency. How come no one challenged the fact that there were no elections and the presidency was passed down as if it were a monarchy? How come there were no outrages from the International community, when it was proven that the 2004 U.S. elections had been rigged? |
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| JFK | Jun 22 2009, 03:58 PM Post #22 |
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Because this began as a peaceful protest by the people which the Iranian government turned into violence. And because the people are remaining peaceful for the most part and continueing regardless of the fact that it is deemed illegal by the Iranian government. Frankly the perseverance of the Iranian people in recent days truly impresses me. |
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| Domenick DiMaggio | Jun 22 2009, 05:50 PM Post #23 |
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wait, isn't 'anonymous' col jenny sparks and her team of agents? |
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| JFK | Jun 22 2009, 06:23 PM Post #24 |
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Only if they wear Guy Fawkes masks in public.
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| JFK | Jun 22 2009, 06:59 PM Post #25 |
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You are welcome 22205, Another link - http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/20090618/iran-election-results-european-union.htm |
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