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Last-minute 9/11 passengers and crews; Many not originally booked on flights
Topic Started: Mar 31 2008, 02:38 PM (11,908 Views)
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Here's my latest blog entry, with some new details about 9/11 you probably haven't read before. The original is here:

Last-Minute Pilots, Passengers, and Flight Attendants: The Unexplained Oddity of 9/11

In all the valuable research that has been conducted into 9/11, a significant detail has so far been mostly overlooked: An examination of news reports and other accounts reveals that a surprising proportion of the people on the four targeted planes had only been booked onto those flights at the last minute, often the day before or even the morning of September 11. Pilots on three of the four planes, more than half of all the flight attendants, and many passengers--including almost half those on Flight 93--were not originally booked to be on those flights.

It is difficult to dismiss all this evidence as mere coincidence. There must be specific reasons that we do not yet know about. For the truth to be uncovered will require further study by independent researchers, scrutiny by the press, and proper formal investigations of the 9/11 attacks.

Below is a summary of these latecomers to the four planes: American Airlines Flights 11 and 77, and United Airlines Flights 175 and 93.


The pilot at the controls of Flight 11--the first plane to hit the World Trade Center--before it was supposedly hijacked was John Ogonowski. However, as the Georgetown Record reported: "American Airlines Captain Walter Sorenson of Groveland was scheduled to fly Flight #11 on Sept. 11, 2001. He was disappointed when he was replaced by Captain John Ogonowski, who had seniority over Sorenson and requested to fly that day. ... The last-minute change of pilots ... spared Sorenson's wife Sarah the untimely loss of a young husband." [1] On Flight 77, which supposedly hit the Pentagon, the pilot and co-pilot were Charles Burlingame and David Charlebois. But, as the New York Times reported: "Bill Cheng, an American Airlines pilot who normally flies Flight 77, changed his plans in late August [2001] and applied for time off on Tuesday [September 11] so he could go camping. When another pilot signed up for the slot, Mr. Cheng's application was accepted." [2] Whether it was Burlingame or Charlebois that replaced him is unstated. And the pilot of Flight 93 was Jason Dahl. But according to the Denver Post: "Dahl piloted United Flight 93 on Sept. 11 because he asked to. At his request, [his wife] traded for the flight on their home computer. He'd wanted to get back to Ken-Caryl Valley sooner to start celebrating their fifth wedding anniversary. Days after the request, Dahl's terrorist-invaded plane took a nose dive in a Pennsylvania field." [3] Dahl took Flight 93 in exchange for a flight he'd been booked on later that month. [4]


Flight 11: There were nine flight attendants on American Airlines Flight 11 the morning of 9/11. At least four of them were not originally booked to be on this flight, but had recently been assigned to it. Barbara "Bobbi" Arestegui "was not scheduled to work Flight 11 that day but had accepted extra flights. She was saving up vacation to take a trip with her boyfriend to Vermont at the end of this month." [5] Jeffrey Collman "didn't normally work the Boston-to-Los Angeles route but made an exception to get vacation time at the end of the month." [6] Jean Roger was a relatively new flight attendant, and every third month was placed on a "standby" work list. On September 11, "Someone called in sick and she had to go." [7] And Sara Low also "was not originally scheduled to work the flight." [8]

Flight 175: There were seven flight attendants on this plane on 9/11, at least four of whom had only recently been assigned to it. Robert Fangman was a reserve attendant for Flight 175, and was on it by chance. He replaced Elise O'Kane, who'd been on the flight regularly for the previous six months. When she was signing up for her flights for the month, O'Kane entered an incorrect code into the computer, which scheduled her instead for flights from Boston to Denver. She later said "she had never made such an error in 16 years as a flight attendant." She had subsequently "made several attempts to switch onto the flight, but had computer problems." [9] Another original attendant was Elaine Lawrence. However, "because she was going on vacation, she traded shifts with her close friend, Amy Jarret." [10] Lauren Gurskis was also one of the original attendants. "In August of [2001], however, she switched assignments--trip-traded, as flight attendants call it--so that she could drive her son to his first day of kindergarten." According to the Boston Globe, Kathryn Laborie was most likely the attendant that replaced her. [11] One more of the original attendants, Barbara McFarland, had "decided to spend an extra day with her son," and so she "swapped shifts with another attendant." The name of this attendant is unstated. [12]

Flight 77: Of the four attendants on this plane, at least two were not originally scheduled to be on it. Michele Heidenberger regularly flew from Washington's Reagan National Airport to Dallas, but on 9/11 was unusually flying out of Dulles Airport on Flight 77. When Heidenberger phoned her friend Toni Knisley, an administrator at Reagan Airport, shortly before boarding her plane, Knisley was surprised, saying: "What are you doing at Dulles? Aren't you flying your regular turn to Dallas today?" Heidenberger explained: "I'm working Flight 77 to LA because I want to take time off in October to go to Italy with [my husband] and the kids." [13] Renee May was only assigned to Flight 77 during the morning of 9/11. American Airlines had earlier called another attendant, Lena Brown, and asked her to take the flight, but Brown said she would be unable to get to the airport in time. "Renee May, the next flight attendant on American Airlines' list, accepted." [14]

Flight 93: At least three of the five attendants on this flight were not originally booked to be on it. Sandra Bradshaw "liked working first class," but "was in economy because she'd picked up Flight 93 late in the planning." She had "switched flights with another attendant." [15] Wanda Green "had been scheduled to fly Sept. 13, but Green, who also worked as a real estate agent, realized she had to handle the closing of a home sale Sept. 13. She'd phoned her best friend, fellow flight attendant Donita Judge, who opened United's computerized schedule and shifted Green to the Sept. 11 flight." [16] Deborah Welsh "usually avoided early-morning flights," and "was not originally slated to be on Flight 93, but was assigned to the flight when she swapped shifts." [17]

It wasn't just pilots and flight attendants who'd joined the doomed flights late. A large number of the passengers had similarly not originally been booked on these aircraft.


Flight 11: Alexander Filipov "originally held a ticket for a Delta flight, but switched at the last minute to American Flight 11." [18] Edmund Glazer had got a call from his company's home office in Los Angeles the night of September 10, asking for his help on a major project. "In his obliging way, Mr. Glazer boarded Flight 11 the next morning." [19] Pendyala Vamsikrishna "was to leave Boston on Sept. 10, but hadn't finished his job, and rescheduled for the following day on American Airlines Flight 11." [20] Brian Dale "was supposed to have flown Monday night. But the Warren, NJ, man instead opted to fly out Tuesday morning." [21] Peter Hashem "had been scheduled to take an earlier flight but postponed the trip in order to make time to attend his son's soccer game." [22] Robin Kaplan had also been scheduled to take an earlier flight, but "she would have had to get up too early, so she didn't." [23] David Angell and his wife Lynn "were on board [Flight 11], even though they had originally planned to take a later flight." [24] David Kovalcin "wasn't supposed to fly to California until later this week." But his company's managers "were looking for someone to leave on Tuesday to discuss a hardware problem with a supplier. He volunteered." [25] Christopher Mello had originally "planned to return home on a red-eye flight the next day." [26] And Kenneth Waldie "was supposed to leave Wednesday, but he got the flight the day before." [27]

Flight 175: Touri Bolourchi "was not supposed to be aboard Flight 175, but she decided to stay a few extra days in Boston to visit her daughter and two grandchildren." [28] Francis Grogan "was not originally booked on Flight 175, but overcrowding on his original flight bumped him." [29] Mark Bavis "was originally scheduled for the 11 a.m. departure but pushed it up a few hours." [30] And Daniel Brandhorst, Ronald Gamboa, and their adopted son David, "changed their flight plans so they could return to Los Angeles from Boston on Sept. 11." Brandhorst's mother had "thought her son was flying the previous night." [31]

Flight 77: Barbara Olson, who flew on Flight 77 on 9/11, was originally "scheduled to fly to Los Angeles on the night of Sept. 10," but "changed her schedule ... to be with her husband on the morning of his 61st birthday." [32] Barbara Edwards "had gone to Connecticut for a wedding and was supposed to return home Saturday [September 8]." But, "her friends talked her into staying with them so she took the flight that crashed into the Pentagon." [33] Vicki Yancey "had planned to leave Washington earlier, but ticketing problems delayed her departure." [34] After a vacation with their daughter, husband and wife Shuyin Yang and Yuguang Zheng were "scheduled to leave for China on September 10." But as they had only finished their vacation on September 9, their daughter "felt it might be a hassle for my parents [to] leave [in] just like a couple hours and to get on the plane. So, I have them to reschedule their flight ticket to September 11." [35] Dora Menchaca was in Washington for two days of meetings. "The meetings ended late Monday [September 10], a day earlier than expected." So, "The next morning, flying on standby, she caught an earlier-than-scheduled departure to California." [36] Ruben Ornedo was originally scheduled to fly two weeks after 9/11. But "during a lull in an extended Washington business trip he seized the chance to rush home for a day or two and see his wife." [37] One group of passengers on Flight 77 comprised eight individuals: three teachers and three 11-year-old students who had been selected to participate in a program at the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, accompanied by two staff members of the National Geographic Society. According to a close friend of one of the teachers, Sarah Clark, "She was originally supposed to go to Florida, but two weeks [before 9/11] they changed it and told her she was going to California." [38]

There were likely more passengers who were only booked onto these flights at the last minute, but I have simply not yet come across the reports describing this. And it seems reasonable to assume there were even more of these late additions to the flights, where the details of these individuals' travel arrangements have so far gone unreported.

In the case of Flight 93, however, since the official story revolves around the heroism of the passengers who supposedly fought back against terrorists, we have the fortune that a lot more has been written about these individuals and how they came to be on that flight. What has been reported is extraordinary: Of the 33 passengers (excluding the four supposed hijackers), at least 16 had only recently been booked onto the plane. Some only joined it early in the morning of September 11.

Flight 93: Environmental lawyer Alan Beaven arranged to take Flight 93 on 9/11 the day before, as he was duty-bound to go to San Francisco to help settle a case after talks had just broken down. [39] "Normally," passenger Todd Beamer "would have left [for San Francisco] the night before." But on September 10 he had returned from a trip to Italy and wanted some time with his children before flying out. [40] Edward Felt "was on a last-minute business trip to San Francisco." [41] Sisters-in-law Patricia Cushing and Jane Folger had "moved up the time of their flight" in the days before 9/11. [42] Mark Bingham "had missed his plane the day before because of a hangover from a friend's birthday party." [43] Jeremy Glick "was supposed to leave Monday night, but there were problems at the airport: He decided to wait 'til Tuesday morning." [44] Nicole Miller's "Monday night ... flight back to the Bay Area was canceled due to weather. Miller re-booked on a flight the next morning." [45] Lou Nacke "only booked his seat the night before. He had a customer on the coast with an inventory problem and offered to fly out first thing Tuesday morning to fix it." [46] When she'd checked in at the airport on September 11, Georgine Corrigan switched to Flight 93, as it was non-stop, whereas her original plane would be making two stops on the way to San Francisco. [47]

A number of the Flight 93 passengers were originally booked on United Airlines Flight 91, scheduled to depart 1 hour 20 minutes after Flight 93, at 9:20 a.m. Deora Bodley "was supposed to take United Flight 91, but decided the night before to take one an hour earlier so she could get home sooner to her family and boyfriend." [48] Christine Snyder "called to check on her flight, Flight 91," early in the morning of September 11, and "moved up to Flight 93 for an earlier start." [49] Lauren Grandcolas "had been scheduled for United 91, but her car service had arrived at the airport early." [50] Husband and wife Donald and Jean Peterson "arrived at the airport early for United Flight 91 ... so they switched to Flight 93." [51] Tom Burnett, according to author Jere Longman, "had changed his plans. ... He would be leaving at 8 a.m. instead of taking Flight 91." (The San Francisco Chronicle said, however, that he'd originally been booked on a Delta Airlines flight that afternoon.) [52]


[1] Sally Applegate, "Flight 11 Crew Not Forgotten." Georgetown Record, September 18, 2003. Credit to Woody Box for having found this little-known information.
[2] Elaine Sciolino and John H. Cushman Jr., "A Route out of Washington, Horribly Changed." New York Times, September 13, 2001.
[3] Susan Besze Wallace, "Legacy of Sept. 11 Pilot Comforts Widow." Denver Post, December 16, 2001.
[4] Jere Longman, Among the Heroes: United Flight 93 and the Passengers and Crew Who Fought Back. New York: HarperCollins, 2002, p. 1.
[5] "The Attack on America Hits Home." Cape Cod Times, September 10, 2002.
[6] "Among the Lost: Victims Included CEO, Researcher." Seattle Times, September 17, 2001.
[7] "Jean Destrehan Roger." Chicago Tribune, September 15, 2001.
[8] "American Flight 11 Victims at a Glance." Associated Press, September 25, 2001.
[9] Wendy Killeen, "Flight Attendant Changes Course." Boston Globe, May 22, 2005; "Twists of Fate: Stories from 9/11." CNN Presents, CNN, October 8, 2005.
[10] Michael Taylor, "Airline Passengers Keeping Eyes Peeled." San Francisco Chronicle, October 23, 2001.
[11] Joseph P. Kahn, "The Flight Not Taken." Boston Globe, September 8, 2002.
[12] Meg Murphy, "Flight Workers: 'It Could Have Been Any of Us.'" Cape Cod Times, September 14, 2001; Meg Murphy, "Three Cape Flight Attendants Reflect on Returning to Air." Cape Cod Times, March 10, 2002.
[13] Tom Murphy, Reclaiming the Sky: 9/11 and the Untold Story of the Men and Women Who Kept America Flying. New York: AMACOM, 2006, pp. 42-43.
[14] Eunice Moscoso, "Not All Airline Pilots Want to be Armed." Atlanta Journal-Constitution, August 9, 2002; Cynthia Kopkowski, "Stewardess Returns to Work after Passing on Ill-Fated Flight." Daily Reflector, September 11, 2002.
[15] Dennis B. Roddy, "Flight 93: Forty Lives, One Destiny." Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, October 28, 2001; Maria C. Johnson, "Mother Wants People to Remember Bradshaw, Sept. 11." Greensboro News-Record, September 3, 2006.
[16] Dennis B. Roddy, "Flight 93: Forty Lives, One Destiny."
[17] Kim Barker, Louise Kiernan, and Steve Mills, "The Heroes of Flight 93." Chicago Tribune, October 2, 2001; "Victims in the Flight 93 Crash." Associated Press, September 9, 2006.
[18] "Their Lives, Deaths Touch Us All." Chicago Tribune, September 13, 2001.
[19] "Charming the Snake and the Husband; Making the Fire Drills Count." New York Times, June 2, 2002.
[20] Steve Lopez, "When Love Stands Bravely against Unbearable Grief." Los Angeles Times, October 24, 2001.
[21] "Bittersweet Memories of Lives Cut Short." Chicago Tribune, September 17, 2001.
[22] "Region Remembers Terrorism Victims." Boston Globe, September 16, 2001.
[23] Alice Dembner and Bella English, "Firm and Families Mourn Seven Women." Boston Globe, September 13, 2001.
[24] Amy Goldstein and Cheryl W. Thompson, "Jet Crash Victims' Stories Start to Emerge." Washington Post, September 12, 2001.
[25] Liz Kowalczyk and Beth Healy, "After Tragedy, Executives Feel Invincible No More." Boston Globe, September 13, 2001.
[26] Ibid.
[27] "American Flight 11 Victims at a Glance."
[28] "Calls to Family ... Then Silence." Chicago Tribune, September 14, 2001.
[29] "United Flight 175 Victims at a Glance." Associated Press, September 25, 2001.
[30] Jim McCabe, "Team Players Bavis Was at Center of Extended Family." Boston Globe, September 16, 2001.
[31] John Glionna and Joe Mozingo, "Lurched into Grief, Families Are Left Only with Questions." Los Angeles Times, September 13, 2001; "A Spitball-Shooting Executive, a Frank Zappa Fan, and the Lawn King." New York Times, March 31, 2002.
[32] "Barbara Olson: A Sparkling Celebrity 'Full of Energy.'" Newsday, February 27, 2002.
[33] Shawn D. Lewis, "Memorial Day Recalls Pain of 9/11." Detroit News, May 27, 2002.
[34] "Calls to Family ... Then Silence."
[35] United States of America v. Zacarias Moussaoui. United States District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia, Alexandria Division, April 11, 2006, pp. 59-60.
[36] John Scheibe, "Thousand Oaks, Calif., Scientist among Dead in Hijacking." Knight Ridder, September 14, 2001; "Dora Menchaca." Wall Street Journal, October 11, 2001.
[37] "Ruben Ornedo." Los Angeles Times, September 17, 2001.
[38] "Team from National Geographic Killed in Pentagon Crash." National Geographic News, September 12, 2001; "Maryland's Lost." Baltimore Sun, September 19, 2001.
[39] Jaxon Van Derbeken, "Bound by Fate, Determination." San Francisco Chronicle, September 17, 2001; Peter Hecht, "A Spiritual Journey Aborted on Flight 93." Sacramento Bee, September 30, 2001.
[40] Angie Cannon, "Final Words from Flight 93." US News and World Report, October 21, 2001.
[41] "Victims in the Flight 93 Crash."
[42] Jere Longman, Among the Heroes, p. 35.
[43] Karen Breslau, "Courage in the Air." Newsweek, September 27, 2001.
[44] Jane Pauley, "No Greater Love." NBC News, September 11, 2006.
[45] Oakley Brooks, "School Daze." Saratoga News, September 26, 2001.
[46] Jane Pauley, "No Greater Love."
[47] Jere Longman, Among the Heroes, p. 12; "Victims in the Flight 93 Crash."
[48] Jaxon Van Derbeken, "Bound by Fate, Determination."
[49] Dennis B. Roddy, "Flight 93: Forty Lives, One Destiny."
[50] Jere Longman, Among the Heroes, p. 12.
[51] Ibid. p. 16.
[52] Jaxon Van Derbeken, "Bound by Fate, Determination"; Jere Longman, Among the Heroes, p. 8.
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We will never no utill the manifests are released
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great work man. i just wanted to add 2 people to the list, who did NOT board (doomed) planes on 9/11, but were supposed to:

Mark Wahlberg Is Still Haunted By 9/11

Mark Wahlberg still dreams about stopping the terrorists who attacked New York City and Washington, D.C., on September 11, 2001, because he should have been on one of the planes that crashed. The actor and some friends were booked on United Airlines flight 93 from his native Boston, Mass., to Los Angeles, which was hijacked by Al-Qaida terrorists.

Brave passengers forced the jet to crash into a field in Pennsylvania before it could reach it's intended target, and the thought that he could have been involved still haunts Wahlberg.

The 34-year-old, who decided to fly from Toronto, Canada, instead at the last minute, says, "We certainly would have tried to do something to fight. I've had probably over 50 dreams about it."

Seth MacFarlane (creator of the Family Guy and other animated sitcoms)

Experience with September 11, 2001 attacks

On the morning of the September 11, 2001 attacks, MacFarlane was scheduled to return to Los Angeles on American Airlines Flight 11 from Boston, Massachusetts, after being a keynote speaker at his alma mater. According to MacFarlane, his travel agent recorded the wrong time that the plane would depart (8:15 a.m. instead of 7:45 a.m.).[54] He was also hung over from drinking the previous night.[55] As a result of the combination with both factors, he arrived at 7:30 and found out the gates were closed.[54] At 8:14 a.m., fifteen minutes after the departure of American Airlines Flight 11, the plane was hijacked.[56] The plane was later flown into the North Tower of the World Trade Center in New York City and crashed at 8:46 a.m., with no survivors.[57]

In an interview with TVShowsOnDVD.com, MacFarlane said the following about his close call:

The only reason it hasn’t really affected me as it maybe could have is I didn’t really know that I was in any danger until after it was over, so I never had that panic moment. After the fact, it was sobering, but people have a lot of close calls; you’re crossing the street and you almost get hit by a car… this one just happened to be related to something massive. I really can’t let it affect me because I’m a comedy writer. I have to put that in the back of my head.[58]

*edited to add more info on macfarlane*

some related links on seth-

Q: I read online that you were almost on one of the hijacked flights on September 11? Is that true?

McFARLANE: It did happen. I was giving a lecture in Rhode Island at my old college the night before and I was booked on Flight 11. It was a combination of being hung-over the next day and my travel agent writing down the wrong time. She wrote down 8:15 instead of 7:45 so I got there about 7:30 and they said that they had just closed the gates, you're too late. And that was the first flight that hit.

Q: God. I also read that you couldn't get a hold of your wife or the office too, and no one knew you were safe and OK...?

McFARLANE: Why is that on there? I'm not married, I don't have kids! I did get a hold of my parents within the first twenty minutes. I mean, this is why I don't have the internet...

Q: That's why I had to nail this down, it sounded a little too far-fetched...

McFARLANE: I just don't believe anything that I read online!

Q: It's true. Guys like us are responsible. And you're being interviewed for an online publication.

McFARLANE: [laughs] I'm not married, ladies!

Q: OK, important to know!

McFARLANE: But yeah, it was pretty intense though. I was very horrified and relieved at the same time.


Q: I noticed "Road to Rhode Island"...there's some footage missing; an Osama bin Laden joke was cut.

SM: There was some debate over that. I kinda stayed out of that debate because I didn't really have a strong opinion one way or the other. There are arguments for keeping it in and arguments for taking it out. The argument to keep it in is that's how the show aired and it was broadcast this way and it aired two years before September 11, and so there's a bit of entertainment historical value there. And obviously the argument for taking it out was that because it was one of the biggest tragedies, there was some thought that it might bring down the rest of the episode when that comes up. There was some thought at one point of putting it on separately at the end, and that was really...I guess it was a legal decision that Fox made to leave it out. It's unfortunate in that it's a part of the episode that was produced and was aired and is sort of gone forever, but it's a small loss in the grand scheme of things.

Q: Now, you were almost involved in that whole tragedy...

SM: Yeah, that came up at one point. I said, "Look, I'm probably as close to that incident as anybody at Fox." There was one point where I was arguing to keep that scene in. Yeah, I was booked on that flight and I was drinking the night before and hung over and I missed the plane by about 10 minutes. It was a very close call for me.

Q: How has that affected you?

SM: The only reason it hasn't really affected me as it maybe could have is I didn't really know that I was in any danger until after it was over, so I never had that panic moment. After the fact it was sobering but people have a lot of close calls; you're crossing the street and you almost get hit by a car....this one just happened to be related to something massive. I really can't let it affect me because I'm a comedy writer. I have to put that in the back of my head.

Q: Well, I'm glad you got drunk the night before.

SM: Yeah, alcohol is our friend. I think that's the moral of that story.

Q: Yeah, drinking can save your life.

SM: Absolutely.

sidenote: an example of Seth MacFarlane talkin politics -

Seth MacFarlane came to Bowling Green State University on October 4th, 2008


atta/james woods <- - - -> woods/macfarlane connection:


i guess you can add San Francisco mayor Willie Brown to the list as well:

Willie Brown got low-key early warning about air travel
Phillip Matier, Andrew Ross

Wednesday, September 12, 2001

For Mayor Willie Brown, the first signs that something was amiss came late Monday when he got a call from what he described as his airport security - - a full eight hours before yesterday's string of terrorist attacks -- advising him that Americans should be cautious about their air travel.

The mayor, who was booked to fly to New York yesterday morning from San Francisco International Airport, said the call "didn't come in any alarming fashion, which is why I'm hesitant to make an alarming statement."

In fact, at the time, he didn't pay it much mind.

"It was not an abnormal call. I'm always concerned if my flight is going to be on time, and they always alert me when I ought to be careful."

Exactly where the call came from is a bit of a mystery. The mayor would say only that it came from "my security people at the airport."

but again Shoestring, kudos on the research and the compilation.

Edited by 22205, Oct 19 2010, 07:32 PM.
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Thanks 22205. I hadn't come across that info about Wahlberg or McFarlane before.

Keep in mind, too, that what I covered in my blog entry is only based on what I have so far found in news reports. There may be more obscure reports of last-minute passengers and crew members that I have not yet come across. And, in fact, there were numerous people on the planes about which almost nothing has been written. So clearly we need further investigation of this aspect of 9/11--by journalists, formal investigators, and independent researchers--to find out more.
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Very interesting article Shoestring, thanks for the research.

Although we will have to stick these in the coincidence bin...which is already overflowing. lol
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found a new one to add to the list:

I Missed Flight 93
“I Missed Flight 93”

Rated: TVPG
Running Time: 60 Minutes
Closed Captions: Yes

On September 11, 2001, United Airlines Flight 93 from Newark to San Francisco was hijacked by terrorists. Passengers on board attempted to wrestle control of the airplane from the terrorists and the plane crashed, killing all on board. Frank Robertazzi of East Hanover, New Jersey was supposed to be on that plane. He regularly took Flight 93 to fly to his business meetings in San Francisco. So was Daniel Belardinelli. His uncle, William Cashman, was on Flight 93. Daniel and his uncle were going to fly out west together for a vacation. Heather Ogle was booked for First Class, Seat 1A; two seats away from the lead terrorist. Through a series of unwitting decisions and quirks of fate, Robert, Daniel, and Heather narrowly escaped death. Inter-cutting between our characters' point of view and the broader story of 9/11 this hour illuminates the thin line that separates life and death.

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happened upon another article about the 3 people (above) who allegedly missed "flight 93":


The experiences of three people who were scheduled to fly on United Flight 93 on Sept. 11, 2001 -- the now-famous flight that ultimately crashed in a Pennsylvania field when the passengers stormed the cockpit and wrestled control of the plane from the terrorists -- are the subject of a new documentary on the A&E network.

At the last minute, the three would-be passengers, Heather Ross Ogle, Frank Robertazzi and Daniel Belardinelli, changed their plans and saved their lives.

Ogle, a flight surgeon, was at her parent's suburban New York home and was planning on flying back to San Francisco that morning.

"I think the flight was around 8 o'clock, and I had to wake her about five," said Ogle's father, Alexander Ross.

"And I'm like: 'Oh yeah, whatever Dad,'" Ogle said. "And then he says a third time: 'Heather, you're going to miss the flight.' I was tired. I was comfortable, and I didn't want to budge from that bed."

In East Hanover, N.J., Robertazzi woke up at his normal time. It was Tuesday, which meant he had to go to San Francisco for a meeting at his company's headquarters.

"The flight I usually took was United 93 or the flight that operated in that time, which was 8 o'clock," he said. "My daughter was just starting kindergarten, and I was having so much fun taking her to kindergarten class."

He decided instead to take his daughter to school and make a minor change to his schedule.

Belardinelli was working on a new painting in his downtown New York studio. He had originally planned to be on the 8 a.m. flight with his uncle Billy Cashman.

"Something came up that I just could not juggle and that's why I called him and I said: 'I can't make it,' so we had this long conversation and it was: 'Don't worry about it. There'll be others. Come on the next one,'" he said.

Flight 93 took off at 8:42 a.m. with 37 passengers and seven crew members. National reports confirmed that the plane that crashed in the Pennsylvania field was in fact the plane that Ogle, Robertazzi and Belardinelli would have been on.

"I would've been sitting right there in 1A," Ogle said. "I would've seen the terrorist walk to the front of the plane. I would've seen the whole thing. I think about it a lot."

Belardinelli, who lost his uncle in the flight, said it was difficult for him to grapple with what could have become his fate.

"It's just something so final," he said. "It's so tragic. You don't want to accept it as being true, you know. … And here's my uncle. He got on that plane and I didn't. I think it's a random thing and either your time is up or it's not."

Ogle said someone came up to her at work and asked to touch her forehead because they told her she had "been touched by an angel."

"I said: 'Oh, what do you mean?' And they said: 'Well, you were supposed to be on that flight but an angel intervened,'" Ogle said.

For Robertazzi, it was a second chance to answer a calling.

"I guess, there's an element of faith or there's an element of maybe there's some important things I need to do," he said. "I've been given these 40 years … and I don't want to miss that calling. It's given me a better perspective about what's important."

and thanks goes to a poster at CIT forum who shared this:

Just found this from an unlikely source over at 9/11oz.


Then on July 5 2001, I called on the US Ambassador in Canberra on another matter, then told him my USS Canberra bell story and asked if he might try and get the bell presented to the Australian Government, he promised to try.

On September 7, a call from the Australian Embassy in Washington informed me that on the 10th. of September 2001, at the Washington Navy Yard, the US President would present this bell to our Prime Minister, and my wife and I were invited to fly to Washington the next day to be guests of our Embassy to be present for this presentation. This we quickly did, and on that Monday at a wonderful Naval ceremony it all happened, both the President and our PM were gracious enough to mention me in their speeches. Then, quite unscheduled the President and Prime Minister came down to meet and greet us, the President took Denise's camera, gave it to a three star US Marine General, ordering him to "Take a photograph of us."

All quite wonderful, the next day it all hit the fan. We then found out we were originally booked to come home on American Airlines flight 77 from Dulles to LA, at the last moment we were rebooked so we could join the PM and Mrs Howard on their visit to Arlington.

We got out of Washington on the first flight from Dulles to LA on the next Saturday, very happy to be home.

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""Mac" with his wife Denise with the Prime Minister of Australia John Howard and the President of the United States George W Bush"

Is this old news?


Tuesday the 11th. of September.
Of course, the day we were due to join our PM at Arlington became the infamous 9/11, and this visit was cancelled, as Washington became a ghost city , and American Airlines Flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon killing all on board.

We were now stuck in Washington, and on Wednesday the 12th. of September, Rear Admiral Simon Harrington RAN, in charge of the Australian Embassy Defence Mission, hosted a lunch in our honour. He informed us that we were both booked to return home to Melbourne, on American Airlines Flight 77, the one that was crashed into the Pentagon by terrorists killing all on board.

John Howard's timely invitation to join him in his proposed visit to the Arlington National Cemetery had saved our lives.

Edit by JFK - At the request of 22205 the photo analysis posts have been split to http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/3873619/
Edited by JFK, Oct 19 2010, 05:57 PM.
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Didn't know that the Prime Minister of Australia, John Howard was in DC on 9/11. Odd that's never come up before. I wonder how long he was stuck here? The couple mentioned above were supposed to fly back to Australia with him but were stuck here until the following Saturday. Did the PM get stuck here for almost a week too?
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Jul 29 2010, 04:55 AM
Didn't know that the Prime Minister of Australia, John Howard was in DC on 9/11. Odd that's never come up before. I wonder how long he was stuck here? The couple mentioned above were supposed to fly back to Australia with him but were stuck here until the following Saturday. Did the PM get stuck here for almost a week too?
im not sure how long he was in town, but i had seen these posted at another forum awhile ago:

The Honorable Donald H. Rumsfeld (left), U.S. Secretary of Defense, escorts Australian Prime Minister John Howard, through an Honor Cordon and into the Pentagon, where they will discuss the principles of submarine operations. (DoD photo by Robert D. Ward) (Released)
Photographer's Name: CIV ROBERT D. WARD, DODLocation: PENTAGON
Date Shot: 9/10/2001Date Posted: unknownVIRIN: 010910-F-9880W-003

The Honorable Donald H. Rumsfeld (right), U.S. Secretary of Defense, poses with Australian Prime Minister John Howard, in the Pentagon, where they will discuss the principles of submarine operations. (DoD photo by Robert D. Ward) (Released)
Photographer's Name: CIV ROBERT D. WARD, DODLocation: PENTAGON
Date Shot: 9/10/2001Date Posted: unknownVIRIN: 010910-F-9880W-009

The Honorable Donald H. Rumsfeld (rear right), Secretary of Defense, watches along with Australian Prime Minister John Howard (seated left), at the Pentagon, while Adm. David Shackleton (left), Australian Navy and Adm. Vern Clark, U.S. Navy, sign the U.S. Navy-Australian Navy Statement of Principles on Submarine Operations. (DOD Photo by Robert D. Ward, Civ) (Released)
Photographer's Name: CIV ROBERT D. WARD, DODLocation: PENTAGON
Date Shot: 9/10/2001Date Posted: unknownVIRIN: 010910-F-9880W-037

The Honorable Donald H. Rumsfeld (right), U.S. Secretary of Defense, shakes hands with Australian Prime Minister John Howard, at the Pentagon, where they will discuss the principles of submarine operations. (DoD photo by Robert D. Ward) (Released)
Photographer's Name: CIV ROBERT D. WARD, DODLocation: PENTAGON
Date Shot: 9/10/2001Date Posted: unknownVIRIN: 010910-F-9880W-011

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Flight 11: Alexander Filipov "originally held a ticket for a Delta flight, but switched at the last minute to American Flight 11

more on filipov:

Alexander Filipov, father of David Filipov, the Globe's Moscow bureau chief, was on Flight 11, but wasn't supposed to be. Alexander Filipov had a ticket for a Delta flight, but he changed it at the last minute.

''He called my mother at 7:45 to tell her,'' David Filipov said from Moscow. ''It was one of those last-second switches. Usually you hear about the switch the other way.''

Alexander Filipov, 70, was an electrical engineer by trade and was on his way to a business meeting with the company with which he worked as a consultant.

''He worked on landing gear and all sorts of complicated machinery,'' David Filipov said. ''He was the kind of dad that was always trying to help you with your math homework. And you'd have to say, `OK Dad, enough.'''

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2 more last minute passenger-related entries-


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Norma Lang Steuerle, an Alexandria psychologist, was on the first leg of a long-awaited trip to visit her daughter Kristin, at the time a Navy doctor stationed in Japan. From there she would fly to Singapore to join her husband, who was teaching a course. "She switched flights at the last minute," Steuerle said. "She wanted to make that stop in Okinawa to spend some time with our daughter."

In the midst of their grief, Eugene Steuerle and daughters Kristin and Lynne began discussing ways to honor Norma Steurele's life. "We always knew we didn't want to simply take the money from the Victim's Compensation Fund," Steuerle said. "So we decided to create a local initiative to give back to the city of Alexandria." Steuerle began meeting with community leaders like David Speck, Nigel Morris and Lyles Carr among others. After 18 months of planning, the Alexandria Community Trust -- a foundation that serves as a catalyst for increasing charitable investment in Alexandria -- was launched in November of 2004.

also: http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-459257.html

Article from: The Washington Post
Article date: September 13, 2001

Steven D. Jacoby, known to colleagues as Jake, boarded American Airlines Flight 77 at Dulles International Airport early, bound for a seminar in Los Angeles.

Other executives from Jacoby's company, Metrocall Inc., were supposed to accompany him, but they were called to a last-minute 9 a.m. meeting in Baltimore, and he decided to go alone.

Jacoby, 43, Metrocall's chief operating officer, had made a career in the paging industry. He was an executive with FirstPage USA from 1988 until its merger …

unrelated to the last minute passengers themselves, but jacoby's son died in april of this year, falling victim to a horrific car crash:



Posted on April 1, 2011 at 4:34 PM
Updated Friday, Apr 1 at 5:26 PM

(WHAS11) - A tragic start to spring break in Franklin County: Three high school students have died; killed in a fiery crash.

The crash happened early Friday morning on Leestown Road.

WHAS11 is learning that the driver had previous speeding convictions.

The driver had three speeding tickets in the past two years and also has been charged with possession of drugs and alcohol.

Friends of the young men hope that the deaths will help convince others to obey traffic laws.

The impact was enough to knock the engine out of an Audi sports car and scrape layers of bark off a tree.

The car left the highway more than an eighth of a mile from its final resting place, leaving rubber on the road and bursting into flames.

State police accident reconstruction experts were on the scene early Friday morning.

According to the experts, speed was the only factor.

Zac Courtney was friends with all three of the boys killed.

"It's just shocking. I'm sure everyone's in shock can't believe it. They're just good guys to be with. Good friends to have," said Courtney.
The victims were identified as driver Nick Jacoby, whose father was a passenger on the plane that crashed into the pentagon, killing him on September 11.

Allen Williams was a football player at Franklin County High School and Ben Laslie was active in Future Farmers of America.
All three were about to graduate.

Courtney says it wasn't the first time he's known Jacoby to take chances behind the wheel.

WHAS11 discovered that Jacoby was charged with speeding 16 miles an hour over the speed limit in 2009 and with speeding 10 miles an hour over the speed limit twice in 2010.

During his latest arrest in December, court records indicate Jacoby had drugs, alcohol and drug paraphernalia in his car.

Classmates say they are grieving this spring break and have learned an important lesson; obey the speed limit.

Edited by 22205, Nov 19 2011, 05:13 AM.
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