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| possible source of the nanothermite chips | |
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| Topic Started: Apr 21 2009, 09:51 AM (692 Views) | |
| TDX | Apr 21 2009, 09:51 AM Post #1 |
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There is one thing which baffles me- the quantity of the unignited nanothermite, it seems to be in rather large multi-ton quantities, standard explanation (that these chips were in close contact with steel, therefore the....) is not acceptable, becuase the surface area of the charges would have to be very large and the ignition temperature (around 430°C) would cause the thermite burn no-matter-what inside the charge. Instead, I propose that the unignited thermite came from unignited charges Our preparators had to knock the towers down, but they couldn't be sure with the exact extent of the fire and airplane damage, so what they did was to put far more charges than necessary. During the last few seconds of the precollapse preparation one of the charges cut the critical column, while the other charges were still burning (the burning couldn't be synchronized, even when using nanothermite), or unignited, then the collapsing floors destroyed the unignited charges and forced the chips into air. The stream of molten metal (NE corner), which was seen during the precollapse preparation of south tower, but what you don't know is that there was a significant amount of red dust during the first 2-3 seconds of the collapse, the movement of the dust suggests that it consists of relatively small particles, therefore it is not cooling molten metal. The most probable theory is, that the molten metal came from thermite charges, which were dislodged by the aircraft impact (the charges were originally intended to cut some of the 1000 or 900 row core columns in the building), unfortunately the spacing of the exterior columns prevented the charges from escaping the building, so they remained inside the debris pile, some of them ignited (the yellow molten metal) and some of them didn't go of (the red dust during the collapse). |
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| DoYouEverWonder | Apr 21 2009, 02:55 PM Post #2 |
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I would assume that no matter what you use for an explosive, you'll end up with residue that didn't ignite. I remember when I was a kid we use to collect the debris from the firecrackers to collect the powder from them. You could easily find enough to get a pretty good bang. |
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| Miragememories | Apr 21 2009, 04:33 PM Post #3 |
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As you say TDX, it's a reasonable expectation that planted demolitions, would be sewn thoroughly enough to allow for any unplanned misdirection of the incoming aircraft. I would expect individual radio-controlled detonators were distributed so that undamaged cd sites could remain fully remote-controlled. But getting back to the thermite-in-the-dust, I'm curious what the current bone-of-contention is regarding the independent lab results? Results, which unless disproven, make these nanothermite particles, 'smoking gun' evidence. I'm curious how high the Media will insist the bar of truth be raised before they are compelled to do a story on this major development? MM Edited by Miragememories, Apr 21 2009, 04:35 PM.
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| remo | Apr 22 2009, 03:58 PM Post #4 |
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What media will do is IGNORE the bar. Not raise it. It is one of the major points of information control. Discussions on this level barely exist in the news rooms. And if they do , as a joke. As banter. Haha stuff. As an indication of insanity. There is a psychology of total denial at work. |
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| David C | Apr 23 2009, 08:41 AM Post #5 |
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Here's something someone just sent me. "Scientists Finds Nano Explosive Material in WTC Dust. April 6, 2009." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSh5o6ca8FM |
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| JointPlays | Apr 23 2009, 08:51 AM Post #6 |
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I posted that some time ago, when we added the english subtitles. It has gotten around 150.000 views so far on my channel. http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/1483364/1/ Actually going to a lecture again tonight with the great Niels Harrit. He does that a couple of times a month on great locations all around the country, here in denmark. Edited by JointPlays, Apr 23 2009, 08:52 AM.
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| T3QuillAMocKINGbird | Apr 28 2009, 03:11 AM Post #7 |
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Never noticed the Red cloud before, excellent observation. MirageMemories- The bone of contention is probably the chain of custody for those samples, and also that their labs were just asked to identify a given sample. Hence if someone handed them thermite and they came back with the conclusion that yep that was thermite then I guess someone was just testing their competence. But when someone hands them a sample from WTC they disclaim it but come up with the signature of thermite. I think the chain of custody is actually corroberated by the multiple site samples with the same size and ratios within the dust per sample, showing distribution within the dust per location (being different ratios of the same substances) along with created Microspheres. The woman that collected her apartment sample shortly after the collapse and then handed it to Jones, is extremely credible and validates the other samples. Ever heard this Occams Razor applied to other aspects of 911 before MM? All sample takers would have to be in on planting thermite in their samples and it would be too complicated to come up with Nano thermate/thermite so soon or even at all, with no planning involved prior to 911 and carried out that week. Shockhams Crazor applys. haha! I always wondered why there are 2 spellings of Occams Razor | Ockhams Razor, as a paradox to its own existence the simplest spelled must be correct! Could you see that lady come forward just to prove some CD theory after she somehow obtained nano thermite and planted it along with partially exploded thermite with microspheres attatched. As for Paint chips, that is a pretty picture debunkers are painting but mistakenly painted themselves into a corner, as a Picture is worth a thousand words and those XEDS snapshots speak loudly enough even for the Red Chip Red Herring impaired. I am curious what debunkers are saying after they learned that the samples even ignighted. Again, that is an astounding observation on the Red Cloud video! |
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| Miragememories | Apr 28 2009, 07:35 AM Post #8 |
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BEFORE  AFTER  Screencaps taken from YouTube video @ "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcEr7ZhvE3A"
Yes, chain of custody is of course a most important consideration but my impression is that the issue had been well documented and addressed. Your other point I find more interesting. Were the independent labs aware that they were testing WTC dust beforehand? MM |
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| RosaL1919 | Sep 11 2009, 08:18 PM Post #9 |
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I am not sure, is it possible that we see the molten metal glowing through the dust giving it a reddish appearance. You see just below the dust cloud molten metal pouring down. |
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