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| Topic Started: Apr 16 2009, 10:40 AM (2,053 Views) | |
| Domenick DiMaggio | Apr 21 2009, 04:56 PM Post #51 |
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i have to agree. the notion that terrorists would hire actors and risk blowing their cover is insane. most likely harley guy is some nobody cia spook. not an actor. the first thing i'm going to ask is who is "researcher zero" on this? in other words who brought these claims to the movement? |
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| DoYouEverWonder | Apr 21 2009, 05:23 PM Post #52 |
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The Rob Riggle rumor started over at ATS. Edited by DoYouEverWonder, Apr 21 2009, 05:24 PM.
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| FUNWO | Apr 21 2009, 06:02 PM Post #53 |
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If I force my imagination to identify the harley guy on this picture I suddenly can spot Tom Hanks, Marlon Brando and Cindy Sheehan surrounding jimmy fallon.     nah |
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| 22205 | Apr 21 2009, 06:40 PM Post #54 |
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man are u feakin retarded? I NEVER SAID OR EVEN SUGGESTED THAT JIMMY FALLON IS HARLEY GUY. IN FACT I HAVE NEVER ONCE SAID I SUSPECT ANYONE OF THE SUGGESTED CANDIDATES ARE HIM. please go back and read my oirginal post, but i will try and spell it out: someone (ozzybanozwald or fred) started this mark humphrey is the harley guy theory. in his theory he used a pic that was claimed to be mark humphrey (the canadian actor). but having recognized fallon's face in one of the pics attached to this theory, i did some research and found the specific fallon pic and its original source. as it turns out (props to noeffects for figuring it out) that pic of jimmy fallon was taken by a photographer whose name is "mark humphrey". so the originator of the "m.h. is the harleyguy" theory, that person (ozzybanoz or fred) did NOT properly vet the info that his mark humphrey image search turned up, and he mistakenly identified a pic of jimmy fallon as being of mark humphrey. does that make it clearer now? if you read page 2 of this thread, i dont see how the fuck you could get so confused people. i never said fallon is the harley guy or mark humphrey, if anything i did what very few people spreading these rumors do - i researched and filtered various search results (using logic) to clear up the confusion and rule out jimmy fallon. re-stating my opinion on this matter: comparing faces from crappy videos or even good ones, is not definitive enough for me to ever say that anyone of these suspected harley guys IS THE 9/11 harley guy. i dont deny that whoever uttered that outright disinfo on 9/11 is 100 percent some sort of propaganda operative. but who he literally is will always be a question mark, IF all we have to go on are visual comparisons of faces (or even comparisons of voices). frankly, i dont think the perps would have hired any sort of actor who had already starred in anything, or would star in anything in the future. plus the guy has such typical features, he could be one of 1000's of people in nyc alone. i have seen variations of that "handsome" white guy look everywhere, so its not like trying to identify that midget beetlejuice from the stern show. i shit you not, one time i actually mistakenly identified a stranger for a friend of mine who i have been close with for over 15+ years. sometimes physical resemblences (in person!) are uncanny, almost like your meeting twins or dopplegangers. anyway, unless you find this harley guy in some other pics or video and get to see what else he was up to on the scene (so you can have some fuller context of his possible affiliations or handlers), you are just speculating. it might be fun or exciting or whatever, but i dont see it as proof enough to bring about any consequence. Edited by 22205, Apr 21 2009, 06:43 PM.
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| FUNWO | Apr 21 2009, 06:58 PM Post #55 |
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Calm down I was not attacking you or anyone else on this forum. I just wanted to embed that picture so quoted you but it was actually a joke (a stupid one if you want). |
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| Domenick DiMaggio | Apr 21 2009, 07:11 PM Post #56 |
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dude i'm not retarded i'm joking. i didn't think anyone looked like the harley guy except that one pic. as soon as i saw that i saw you posted it was jimmy fallon so i made a joke that jimmy fallon was the harley guy and then made another wise crack that jimmy fallon planted the thermite in the wtc. in all honesty i think the notion that someone from hollywood being paid to do this is an unnecessary risk. there are plenty of spooks who can remember what to say that could step in front of the camera. i just asked about the credibility of the originator of this 'theory'. you identified the source. its enough said as far as i'm concerned. now can we all go back to real 9/11 research? |
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| TheRealTruth | Apr 21 2009, 08:15 PM Post #57 |
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It's obviously Vladamir Putin wearing a mask. |
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| 22205 | Apr 21 2009, 08:35 PM Post #58 |
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my bad - dom and funwo. i didnt catch the joking part, i thought i was being lumped into guilt by association and labled a kook (by funwo) for seeing things that are not there (like fallon being hg). maybe not u guys, but some people (a certain ozzybanoz) took what i mentioned about jimmy fallon, but got it second-hand thru weezula's "reloaded" video and now he (oz) thinks that someone (who is me - tho im not sure he has seen this thread) is intentionally claiming fallon might be harleyguy in order to muddy up the trail to mark humphrey: http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?s=6169ef6d39421cb11e6e0cb1602a02a6&showtopic=6393&view=findpost&p=15398377 -instead of oz realizing or owning up to his error, now jimmy fallon has somehow become part of the potential harleyguys. so im sorry about the vehement denial and need to make sure there's no misunderstanding, but i felt it necessary to get things back on track so i wouldnt be wrongly accused of trying to inject (instead of subtract) fallon from this drama. ps- dom i wasnt calling you retarded, in fact i wasnt referring to you at all (but im glad i was able to provide some info - tho i have to say im only 99% sure im correct about whose theory this is). sorry funwo but it was you who i was referring to with that antagonistic rhetort, based on ur post with the brando picture and what i thought was a joke with me as its punchline. but as mentioned, i take it back. the deeper basis for my anger/frustration was with how things had gotten misconstrued in this thread and how the stories/rumors grew legs and took on a life of their own, thanks to a couple of simple (incorrect or unclear) posts (on page 2). so now that things are cleared up and im not being associated with "jimmy fallon IS the harley guy" theories, we can continue along in (relative) peace.  Edited by 22205, Apr 21 2009, 08:37 PM.
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| mid life rethinker | Apr 22 2009, 09:57 AM Post #59 |
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really silly question, but wasn't the guy ever ID'd when he was interviewed? Did not the inverviewer give any indication who he was? That is even more suspicious that he is a plant. I realize I'm probably a few years behind in what has been said about this guy. |
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| ozzybinoswald | Jun 20 2009, 01:08 PM Post #60 |
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Craig, Who created the email that was forwarded to you with the mixed identifications? It would be very productive if you would upload a screencap of that message here. This is the sort of trail that will lead us to the center of this disinformation cover-up operation and from there all things are possible. Thanks in advance. -Oz. http://911-harley-shirt-guy.blogspot.com |
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| ozzybinoswald | Jul 2 2009, 02:49 PM Post #61 |
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Craig, Why won't you divulge the source of the disinformation? I think it was you yourself. I always did. So whose employ are you in? Who hired you? |
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| JFK | Jul 2 2009, 03:08 PM Post #62 |
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http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/boardrules/
First and only warning. |
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| ozzybinoswald | Jul 2 2009, 03:32 PM Post #63 |
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Why can't Craig answer the pertinent question with the same speed with which this warning came? |
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| JFK | Jul 2 2009, 03:37 PM Post #64 |
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Bye. |
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| 22205 | Aug 3 2009, 05:34 PM Post #65 |
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http://tinyurl.com/krhgm7
thats weird, because i have seen dom on the ksa's shitlist, with his name and address posted and all.
none of cit and its "cohorts" are going out of their way to discredit you, for you have mostly accomplished that all by yourself with your lsd-induced observations of visual phenomenon and your crappy (people's court/ 911 witness) "research". but just for you ozzy - and for me to get to the bottom of it all - i contacted craig and asked for info about that the true source of that jimmy fallon picture that seemed to cause such a ruckus, and he in turn contacted that source for more detailed info. so from what i understand, the person who forwarded it to him, was so enthralled (and convinced) by YOUR mark humphrey "discovery" that they began emailing it around trying to help promote it. so this person was on your side ozzy, not against you. but this person (in their zeal and eagerness of the moment) decided to bolster your "evidence" and did their own googling of "mark humphrey" and added some pictures to it. unfortunately however, this person did NOT do a good job of vetting the information, and erroneously included jimmy fallon in their email. that email ended up in craig's inbox, and initially he even posted a thread at his forum to help disseminate/promote it. that thread was mostly comprised of the "research" you put together, but also included the fallon picture. i saw the thread there, and at the time had seen how you had been suddenly unregistered at kt's forum. from reading around over there (at kt's) i guessed at the time that the real and actual mark humphrey had something to do with your forced unregistering, and figured that maybe humphrey was on a legal crusade to rid the internet of the libel against him. i communicated that risk/liability to aldo, and (without craig's input or approval) he decided with my input/approval that we would be better off (im an admin at that site as well) without the mark humphrey thread, so it was erased. i was also concerned that we would be inviting the fakery/noplanes element to our forum, a place where we have tried hard to seperate ourselves from being confused or grouped with "no planes". so there you have it neil, the whole story. craig was in favor of your theory and was even willing to post it at his own forum - so he is not your enemy. there was/is no cit conspiracy against you, just a simple error by someone who was looking to support and disseminate your "theory". weezula on the other hand, none of us (aldo craig or me) know him/her and we have no idea what his/her agenda is. he/she made the video that made a big deal of the fallon thing, so only he/she can answer for that. but weezula is not a cit member (not even a member at our forum), so we are not associated with his/her actions. granted, in this thread i was the one who exposed the pic as being of fallon, and i erroneously and without official proof attributed that to you - and for that i apologize and have since tried to clear the record so that no misinformation continues to linger and so that no bad blood exists between us (u and me). as far as your banishment, perhaps that can be chalked up to your negative reputation as a harasser/stalker, honestly i dont know - so the mods/admins here may be able to answer for that (if they so please). but it was not my intention to misrepresent you or your theory, even though i whole heartedly disagree with its validity, nor was it my intention to have you banned here. *** in closing oz i'd like to say that we (cit) have worked tirelessly to get to some real tangible and actual 9/11 truth. aldo and craig did it on their own at first, and then i - after much observation and studying of all the facts/questions and the people ( actual witnesses as well as the "truthers"), joined them. i scrutinized everything, and decided who i thought was doing the most honest and sincere work in trying to expose what happened here in arlington that day. with full confidence i have put all my eggs in their basket (so to speak) and have no regrets. they are not agents and have not been compromised or leveraged. they are the closest thing to a "truther" you are ever gonna find. no one else in this movement has dug up and contacted witnesses like they/we have. so while you may think your mark humphrey discovery is big shit, its nothing compared to what we have done. to waste our time trying to muddy the humphrey waters would be an effort much better suited for people dicking around with peripheral truths and trivial pursuits*. our mission is real truth and i dont give a fuck what ridiculous visual perpsective changes (due to movement of camera/filming location) that psymon shack and d.duk come up with as evidence for pentagon "tv fakery", the real fakery at the pentagon included a plane and no video fakery - just video absence. duh. if they could convincingly fake a video of a plane crash, well they sure as shit would have faked one crashing into the pentagon by now. given the npt wtc logic - it would have been simple considering an actual plane flew within feet of the place... but they haveNt faked it, cuz they caNt. * finding the harley guy is a mission well worth pursuing. but comparing pics of him to an established tv/movie actor, is not the path to successfully identifying and exposing the operative who was the "harley guy". please spend your time and efforts seeping through the hours of footage and see if you can spot him somewhere, like in a tactical swat uniform or something. or find some other means of getting to the bottom of it, like maybe finding one of those people who were standing around him in the footage. maybe one of them noticed something shady about him that day and would like to share it. something man, for chrissakes, something real. pics and comparisons are not gonna cut it. best wishes. |
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