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Positive ID on "Harley Davidson Guy"?; Harley Davidson Guy Probably exposed
Topic Started: Apr 16 2009, 10:40 AM (2,054 Views)
Craig Ranke CIT	Apr 17 2009, 11:10 PM Post #26
Posts: 1,451 Group: Members Member #14 Joined: 01/14/08	noeffects Apr 17 2009, 08:50 PM after snooping around...jeez...some you tubes are implicating ABC's Bob Woodruff as Harley guy !! No way. Peter Brady is a MUCH better match!
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22205	Apr 17 2009, 11:25 PM Post #27
Arlingtonian Posts: 443 Group: Members Member #24 Joined: 01/14/08	does anyone have a link to or copy of - the original? better yet - for full context's sake, does anyone have a full length clip so we could see how this (alleged) piece aired on 9/11 - with the scenes prior and after this street interview? the audio is OFF-sync in every version of the clip that i have found so far, even the downloadable "raw" file. this may be an unpopular opinion, but im not sure that the original clip had the shill-talk audio. i keep trying to read the harley guy's lips and they dont seem to match any of the shill-talk dialogue. so until someone can come up with the exact original clip, all these visual comparisons are premature (imo). and at the end of the day - by using the grainy crappy quality video and pictures of mark humphrey for comparison, i dont think that you could ever say with 100 percent certainty that he is "proof positive" the 9/11 harley guy. * here is some help as to where to find the original footage: there are 3 fox channel 2's in the usa: but based on the logo - the video of harley guy is from san francisco's fox news channel 2: their site and info about obtaining copies: http://www.ktvu.com/station/1852974/detail.html Quote: Q: ... Can I obtain a copy of the tape? A: KTVU does not provide tapes or transcripts of its news programming to viewers. (Commercial program producers should check our guidelines regarding sales policies and procedures.) For viewers interested in buying a copy of a news program for personal use, there are companies that do sell such tapes. They are not connected directly, indirectly, or financially with KTVU/Fox 2. These companies set their own rates for this service. KTVU/Fox 2 has no control over their business practices. Here are some companies providing dubs of KTVU/Fox 2 News Duplicating Service 925-946-9856 Multivision 800-560-0111 Videowatch 415-381-0176 Video Monitoring Service 415-543-3361 * woodruff was in london on 9/11: http://www4.colgate.edu/scene/may2002/woodruff.html Quote: He was among the first reporters to arrive in Islamabad after the attacks. "We [Woodruff and his wife, Lee McConaughy Woodruff '82] were ready to go for dinner for our `lucky' thirteenth wedding anniversary," he said. "I was in my office in London. Someone on the news desk said, `Come out here and look at this, a plane has just hit the World Trade Center.' Everyone was very confused. Then the other plane hit and I just turned to the bureau chief and said, `This has got to be Bin Laden. We should get to Afghanistan.' I was on the next plane out of London and went to Islamabad. That was as close as we could get. We tried to get the Taliban to give us visas to get into Afghanistan and they cut everybody off. * btw, that one pic is of jimmy fallon, not humphrey: http://www.daylife.com/photo/0cNt1nWcdO45X http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0cNt1nWcdO45X/610x.jpg maybe humphrey is the one shaking hands with fallon? ? Edited by 22205**, Apr 18 2009, 12:37 AM.



Craig Ranke CIT	Apr 17 2009, 11:50 PM Post #28
Posts: 1,451 Group: Members Member #14 Joined: 01/14/08	LOL Too much. Dude is Peter Brady for sure. Edited by Craig Ranke CIT, Apr 17 2009, 11:56 PM.
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22205	Apr 18 2009, 12:00 AM Post #29
Arlingtonian Posts: 443 Group: Members Member #24 Joined: 01/14/08	in answer to my own question about who fallon is shaking hands with: http://www.daylife.com/photo/07JH3CBgvJeeN caption Actor Jimmy Fallon, right, talks with country music star and Nashville Predators fan Vince Gill, left, during an NHL hockey game between the Predators and Chicago Blackhawks in Nashville, Tenn. , Saturday, March 22, 2008. does anyone know how that pic came to be associated with this harley guy / humphrey drama? ETA: http://images.google.com/images?q=jimmy+fallon+Nashville+Predators&hl=en&um=1&sa=2 Edited by 22205, Apr 18 2009, 12:01 AM.



Craig Ranke CIT	Apr 18 2009, 12:01 AM Post #30
Posts: 1,451 Group: Members Member #14 Joined: 01/14/08	22205 Apr 17 2009, 11:25 PM and at the end of the day - by using the grainy crappy quality video and pictures of mark humphrey for comparison, i dont think that you could ever say with 100 percent certainty that he is "proof positive" the 9/11 harley guy. Well yeah, I think that has been the case since they were first linked but I agree.....I think you could tell definitively from the original footage.
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Craig Ranke CIT	Apr 18 2009, 12:03 AM Post #31
Posts: 1,451 Group: Members Member #14 Joined: 01/14/08	22205 Apr 18 2009, 12:00 AM does anyone know how that pic came to be associated with this harley guy / humphrey drama? I got a forwarded email with that pic mixed in with the Humprey IMDB pics. Good catch man. Glad that was nipped in the bud.
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22205	Apr 18 2009, 12:05 AM Post #32
Arlingtonian Posts: 443 Group: Members Member #24 Joined: 01/14/08	so does anyone have the "original" source vid for this? or at least a properly synched version?



22205	Apr 18 2009, 12:12 AM Post #33
Arlingtonian Posts: 443 Group: Members Member #24 Joined: 01/14/08	Craig Ranke CIT Apr 18 2009, 12:03 AM 22205 Apr 18 2009, 12:00 AM does anyone know how that pic came to be associated with this harley guy / humphrey drama? I got a forwarded email with that pic mixed in with the Humprey IMDB pics. Good catch man. Glad that was nipped in the bud. i've seen it over at the movement (kt's forum), and im pretty sure the original guy posting the whole series of pics (including the fallon one) and this whole humphrey connection was ozzybanozwald (or something like that - sorry i dont know his exact screen name but im sure you guys know who im talking about). i never clicked on his accompanying links in the original (now removed) thread where he posted this humphrey is the harley guy "evidence'. i had assumed at the time however, that he had found the pics, including what is now proven to be fallon, on humphrey's site or somewhere that officially claimed them to be humphrey...



22205	Apr 18 2009, 12:33 AM Post #34
Arlingtonian Posts: 443 Group: Members Member #24 Joined: 01/14/08	okay i stand corrected about the authenticity of the "shill-talk". in windows movie maker i opened the file and tried moving the audio around to see if i could sync it myself, and yes they can be lined up. attached is a better synched version (below). Attached to this post: harleyguy_synched.wmv (672.6 KB) Edited by 22205, Apr 18 2009, 12:34 AM.



8bitagent	Apr 18 2009, 03:09 AM Post #35
Posts: 153 Group: Members Member #783 Joined: 08/02/08	Speaking of Hollywood actors... Remember that Mark Wahlberg claimed he had his Flight 93 ticket and was spose to be on board the doomed flight. Imagine the headlines, "Major action star dies while braving trying to take down al Qaeda hijackers", heh Also, Family Guy creator Seth Mcfarlane said he was spose to be on Flight 11. One year before 9/11, he had a skit on Family Guy where Osama bin Laden sneaks knives and guns past baggage check onto a plane. Then...we have James Woods, who claims he saw 4 of the 19 hijackers on a plane he took a few weeks before 9/11. He thought maybe they were FBI agents or informants testing security, but got worried and notified the airline who then notified the FBI(whom were at his door, he claims, when 9/11 happened)
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noeffects	Apr 18 2009, 09:22 AM Post #36
Posts: 798 Group: Members Member #178 Joined: 01/22/08	Quote: does anyone know how that pic came to be associated with this harley guy / humphrey drama? Hey ...22205...you almost got the answer inside your question... after searching images ...I do believe that a guy "Mark Humphrey" is also an Associated Press photographer...seems to have lots of sports figures and stars, etc. in his portfolio.... So pics of Fallon at the NHL game fits like a glove...
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noeffects	Apr 18 2009, 09:43 AM Post #37
Posts: 798 Group: Members Member #178 Joined: 01/22/08	Is this AP photographer Mark Humphrey ??? Quote: A bit about me... Born in Brighton England; now residing in Los Angeles California. I am an absolute minimalist and have a very simple approach to photography, direction, cinematography and light. I believe that life, light, and circumstance are always in perfect sync, and that my most compelling images are created when any photographic concept aligns itself with this thought. I think i'm becoming a buddhist !... Cheers... mx
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weezula	Apr 18 2009, 11:28 PM Post #38
Posts: 8 Group: Members Member #808 Joined: 08/19/08	So who is the Harley Guy? a) Mark Humphrey - Photographer b) Mark Humphrey - Actor c) Bob Woodruff d) Jimmy Fallon e) Rob Riggle f) OzzyBinOswald g) Peter Brady h) all of the above j) none of the above The Harley guy is around 5'8" - 5'9" in height in my estimation. That leaves a little less to the imagination. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJKvXQXjwos As I expected, there were people who would not let go of their strong belief of whom the expert witness (Harley Guy) was after the 9/11 event. It turns out that many pictures used in a comparison were misleading. Someone has clearly not distinguished the difference between the actor Mark Humphrey and the AP photographer Mark Humphrey - two different people. This video shows how a picture of Jimmy Fallon and Chris Tomlin were used in various forums to try and substantiate a claim that Mark Humphrey looks similar to the Harley Guy - the fact is that someone Googled "Mark Humphrey" and got a pic from the AP photographer instead. The comparison is that of Jimmy Fallon in one photo and Chris Tomlin in another. The Harley Guy Reloaded... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bri9QrZvWlw
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Lin Kuei	Apr 19 2009, 12:07 AM Post #39
Posts: 1,293 Group: Admins Member #5 Joined: 12/22/07	weezula Apr 18 2009, 11:28 PM So who is the Harley Guy? No-one knows, and maybe never will know for absolute certain. He does however bear a close resemblance to Canadian actor Mark Humphrey - who had appeared in various B-grade military propaganda flicks.
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bretwalda	Apr 19 2009, 01:22 AM Post #40
Posts: 205 Group: Members Member #173 Joined: 01/21/08	That clip is just too undefined to even consider fingering one of two IMO. Nonetheless here's a clip with Riggle's voice a little more high strung. Sounds pretty similar. Link He's definitely put on some weight: Link
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mid life rethinker	Apr 19 2009, 09:05 AM Post #41
Posts: 216 Group: Members Member #186 Joined: 01/22/08	2Faced Apr 16 2009, 10:40 AM I don't know if this has been posted before, but I think it is well worth mentioning it. There is an ongoing thread at ATS (above top secret forum) that discusses the Harley Davidson Guy who, immediately after the 9/11 attacks, was able to state that the towers came down "due to structural failure". It is verry likely that he has finally been ID'd as Rob Riggle. I know for fact that this board has some verry intelligent and logical thinkers, and I like to call upon them to look at this information, and see if the op is on to something. If so, this could be an explosive development. The thread is to be found here: ATS thread on Harley Davidson Guy peace y'all i think it looks and sounds like Riggle, but in the clips with Conan O'Brien Riggle is about 1-2 inches smaller than the 6'4" O'Brien, making him still very tall. How tall is the Harley Guy approximately? I'd pick Riggle over Humprey as being it.
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Citizen Pawn	Apr 19 2009, 09:53 AM Post #42
Posts: 601 Group: Members Member #202 Joined: 01/24/08	Mark Humphrey has a dinstinct nose. It's an Irish nose or something close. Pointy, and his feature seem like he's "Black Irish" mixed with something else. The way "Peter Brady" looks. Very small distinct features. The type of face that looks good on film. Rob Riggle looks nothing like "Harley Guy". Rob Riggle is also a big dude. Harley Guy was average to short size. Rob Riggle looks like a football player. Have you ever seen him in Daily Show sketches? Riggle is nowhere near the look. And seriously, why is someone entertaining the Rob Riggle thought anyway? What seems more plausible...a guy that was a B Actor from Canada, who could get away with being on 'the scene' in a hat , and commotion going on, or a COMEDY sketch actor. who looks like a Polish/English football player, who happens to be a star on the Daily Show, and was NOWHERE and NOBODY on the date of 9/11??? Think The "Rob Riggle" whodunnit caper almost seems laughable. The fact that people are even considering it is comical, like someone is actually playing a joke. "Rob Riggle" was involved in 9/11??? Dude, seriosuly, say that to yourself, then imagine someone seeing you POST that 'theory' on a board. That's alot why 9/11 researchers never got taken seriously. The Mark Humphrey thing was a good call. Whoever saw that has a good eye. There was/is something there. The guy is a VERY good match, so what the fuck are people going to do about it? Anyone question him? Any emails? A call to his agents or his friends? Anything? No, just YouTube videos and posts in forums. Then someone comes along and says "Hey guys, it looks more like Rob Riggle, you know, from the Daily Show, yeah that's the ticket, oh by the way....9/11 was an inside job....take me seriosuly please......please.....hey wait where are you going....building 7....Rob Riggle. Look, just admit there are two things going on here. There is either : 1) Someone who is use to REACHING with "conspiracy theories' , going so overboard as to accuse Rob FUCKING Riggle, and do a face morph match on him, because they seriously have no grasp of reality anymore. 2) Someone trying to throw something so comical out there, as an experiment, to see who bites at it. (Can just see the Daily Show do a bit about this. ) 3) An agent or disinfro troll trying to poison the well, because we ALL KNOW that "Harley Guy" was GUARANTEED a paid actor who arrived on the scene on 9/11, because of his OBVIOUS mannerisms and speech which made him stick out like a dolphin at a petting zoo. Which one is it? Who is the person that originally posited this "Rob Riggle" idea? Ask them which one of the three choices above they fit. Are they serious? Cuz if yes, they are not grasping reality. What other type of info has this person 'posited' to those that would listen? Why is Mark Humphrey not being questioned if he is such a good match? If you have a perp, why not go after him with a line of questions? Why spend so much time writing about him, only to have the 'caper' turn to "Rob Riggle"? If I knew where Humphrey lived, and was near his city, you bet I would find him at his favorite coffee shop and record me confronting him with a list of questions (respectfully at first) Or you can go to the set of "The Daily Show" and confront "Rob Riggle" and get laughed at off the set, after security grabs you, then they do a skit about the whole thing and 9/11 Truthers become more 'kooky' to people. I swear, between the obvious shills I see (but ignore and stay away from on forums), the real crazies in this movement, the "conspiracy theorists" types who see something sinister in the most bizarre stuff with no evidence, and the OBVIOUS paid Bloggers.....I wonder why I even care most of the time. Unfortunately I do, for some unknown reason. I pay attention to a lot of political and 9/11 forums. There are MANY people who post regularly here and other places that are NOT playing with a full deck. And there are OBVIOUS shillers and "paids", or agenda driven Bloggers. I've gotten to see the pattern of how they post, and more importantly what times they post and following what stories, their writing patterns, their punctuation styles, their grammar mistakes, the way they post "Big" finds with no evidence. But most are just your average "Nutjob". They will follow any line, fall for any idea, they grasp at any straw. "Rob Riggle" is a straw. "Rob Riggle" is silly. "Mark Humphrey" is a good eye and a possible lead, which should have been looked into more seriously. And if it wasn't Mark, fliers all around Manhattan should have been posted to see who knows "Harley Guy", because he is a FUCKING PERP, and I would bet my life on it. "Rob Riggle" is cartoonland Blogging and research.
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TheRealTruth	Apr 19 2009, 07:11 PM Post #43
TROLL Posts: 24 Group: BANNED! Member #1,125 Joined: 04/14/09	That animated image looks like you just used photoshop to add a bald head and a part of a body.



Citizen Pawn	Apr 20 2009, 08:45 PM Post #44
Posts: 601 Group: Members Member #202 Joined: 01/24/08	ANy thoughts on this guy Bob Woodruff? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDRw1_at0bQ Isn't he almost a better match than Humphrey?
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SPreston	Apr 20 2009, 09:43 PM Post #45
Patriotic American Posts: 1,229 Group: Members Member #122 Joined: 01/18/08	Citizen Pawn Apr 19 2009, 09:53 AM And seriously, why is someone entertaining the Rob Riggle thought anyway? Actually many of us are considering Rob Riggle as the Harley Davidson Guy because of what he wrote on his own website. Several people thought they recognized him by his voice; not his looks. Riggle was in New York City on 9-11 as a military responder, and was assigned to moving rubble on 9-12. As a military public affairs officer, Riggle would qualify to speak publicly to the press. Were any of these other guys you approve of in New York on 9-11? Quote: Capt. Riggle left active duty in the summer of 2000 and immediately joined the Marine Corps Reserves. In the fall of 2001 Capt. Riggle was in New York City. His reserve unit, MTU-17, stationed in Manhattan, were among the first military responders to the attacks on the World Trade Centers. Capt. Riggle was activated from Sept. 12th through the 30th, 2001, where he worked at ground zero moving rubble by hand in the bucket brigades. On November 10th (the Marine Corps birthday) Capt. Riggle received orders back to active duty for one year. He was assigned to Central Command (CENTCOM) in Tampa, Florida. http://www.robriggle.com/my-military.html Quote: Military career Riggle is a Lieutenant Colonel in the United States Marine Corps Reserve and served in Liberia, Kosovo, and Afghanistan. He is currently a public affairs officer with the New York City Public Affairs unit and is a recipient of the Combat Action Ribbon.[1] He has referred to his military experiences on The Daily Show, often when acting as the show's "Military Analyst", sometimes stating he could kill any other member of the show. He is the only Daily Show cast member to have been in the U.S. military.[2] In August 2007, Riggle went to Iraq to report for The Daily Show as well as entertain the troops under the purview of the United Service Organizations.[3] On April 15, 2009, The Daily Show announced that Riggle had been promoted from Major to the rank of Lieutenant Colonel[4]. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Riggle



Domenick DiMaggio	Apr 20 2009, 11:45 PM Post #46
Posts: 1,967 Group: Members Member #22 Joined: 01/14/08	Craig Ranke CIT Apr 17 2009, 02:18 PM Harley Guy: Mark Humphrey: i'm sold.
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Domenick DiMaggio	Apr 20 2009, 11:49 PM Post #47
Posts: 1,967 Group: Members Member #22 Joined: 01/14/08	wait.... you mean the harley guy is jimmy fallon?
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Domenick DiMaggio	Apr 20 2009, 11:54 PM Post #48
Posts: 1,967 Group: Members Member #22 Joined: 01/14/08	Citizen Pawn Apr 19 2009, 09:53 AM Look, just admit there are two things going on here. There is either : 1) Someone who is use to REACHING with "conspiracy theories' , going so overboard as to accuse Rob FUCKING Riggle, and do a face morph match on him, because they seriously have no grasp of reality anymore. 2) Someone trying to throw something so comical out there, as an experiment, to see who bites at it. (Can just see the Daily Show do a bit about this. ) i have to call it a tie. i heard jimmy fallon planted the thermite. [i'm joking. ok? lol]
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Lin Kuei	Apr 21 2009, 12:49 AM Post #49
Posts: 1,293 Group: Admins Member #5 Joined: 12/22/07	I'll just add that some people over at KT's forum found Mark Humphrey while going through people affiliated with Ace 'Faker' Baker. check this pic for more details on Humphrey et al: http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=8412580&albumID=2783018&imageID=62361720#a=2783018&i=62361805 Quote: Interestingly, Mark Humphrey appeared as an actor in a pre-9/11 'hijacking thriller' - produced by the very same obscure outfit that keeps hiring 'Ace Baker' to compose scores. What an unlikely coincidence! Imagine the odds. Humphrey appeared in 'Air Rage' - an action flick featuring aerial hijackings. This movie was made by Phoenician Entertainment, a company 'Ace Baker' had worked for - doing music. Let's not forget some of the other blatant military propaganda films also featuring Humphrey - such as Iron Eagle II. Edited by Lin Kuei, Apr 22 2009, 12:31 AM.
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FUNWO	Apr 21 2009, 09:00 AM Post #50
Posts: 121 Group: Members Member #493 Joined: 04/13/08	What a stupid way to waste time instead of spreading for instance the information about the thermite found on GZ. It is none of the above. The closest match is Bob Woodruff but it is not him either. If you have good recognition skills you will see that too. If you are still undecided and want to kill some time then go grab the Loose Change FC DVD and go FF to the middle of the movie and you will see the harley guy there. Make some close up shots of him and compare them from every angle with pictures of your favorite. They are similar but not the same. There is not identification here in my point of view. If you want to see the pictures I made some days ago I can upload them in some hours. This guy has much blond hairs on his arms, a very small nose, bright eyes and dark thick eyebrows. How come some of you do not see the details? EDIT: Most obvious diferences - Mark Humphreys nose is too big - Riggles earlobes are too big - Jimmy Fallons eyes are dark and the shape is different Edited by FUNWO, Apr 21 2009, 09:20 AM.
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