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| There Was No Missile At the Pentagon; But the Plane Did Not Hit | |
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| Topic Started: Mar 2 2009, 07:04 PM (1,538 Views) | |
| noeffects | Mar 27 2009, 06:05 PM Post #26 |
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Almost missed it....The Pheonix Project...? ! ? ! first time i heard that....typical NWO religiousness... Jack D...thats what i was thinkin'...reverse engineer the damage...good post |
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| A.L.Ex - N.E.T.A | Mar 29 2009, 01:12 PM Post #27 |
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The rings not being divided means NOTHING. Something still made it that far into the Pentagon and it would have to be something big and heavy and we both know it wasn't a plane.
Well done, I'm not speculating.
NO evidence? This you're gonna have to explain because, other than the landing gear found on site and the thin pieces of "fuselage", around 30 people say they SAW a plane directly hit the building and we both know it wasn't Flight 77, so unless it was a 3-D image being projected to trick everyone, there's not much else of an explanation (funny enough the crazy 3-D idea would explain why no one heard anything). |
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| noeffects | Mar 29 2009, 07:14 PM Post #28 |
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 I'm sure all of the NOC witnesses heard something.. |
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| SPreston | Mar 29 2009, 10:22 PM Post #29 |
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They also saw an aircraft flying Over the Naval Annex and above their heads. |
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| Craig Ranke CIT | Mar 30 2009, 11:57 AM Post #30 |
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Of course something made the damage but there is no evidence that it was a plane, missile, or anything that flew into the building. Since we know the M.O. of this operation at the WTC was to covertly cause the destruction with pre-planted explosives this is a a logical conclusion at the Pentagon in light of the body of independent evidence available.
Clearly you are since you have not provided a single piece of independent evidence for a missile or a drone aircraft impact. Hint: government controlled and supplied information is not independent verifiable evidence.
We have personally talked with many witnesses who heard and saw the plane. The witnesses prove it was on the north side and therefore did not hit the building and was manipulated out of the fraudulent security video. Please view the entire body of evidence before continuing to argue against it because at this point it is quite apparent that you haven't. And if you really believe the "landing gear" photographed inside the building after 9/11 got there from a plane impact then you have no choice but to accept a 757 impact because it matches a 757 as does the combustion case and wheel rim.   This is already very well known by most so if you try claiming otherwise you are setting yourself up to be easily debunked. No doubt it was already inside the building before the attack and the few tiny scraps of un-charred fuselage sections laying around for photo-ops could have been planted at any point just prior to or during the attack. There really wasn't much. Here is the extent of the somewhat recognizable pieces:  Do you really think they just got lucky that no parts that could be definitively traced to an A3 skywarrior or Global Hawk could be identified? And if you are really going to argue that the witnesses actually support a plane impact then I know for a FACT that you have not viewed the evidence we present. Please do. |
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| A.L.Ex - N.E.T.A | Apr 1 2009, 06:48 AM Post #31 |
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Something obvuiously made the damage ..... well duh! Yes i am aware that pre-planted explosive are very likely but I doubt they would put them them so that the damage line would be longer than that of what A 757 would make. And since when were witnesses not amount to evidence? I have no choice but to think a 757 hit because of the landing gear? The landing gear could be off something smaller, hell it could have been adrone specially fitted with the exact same as a 757 for all we know. I'm not saying it was DEFINATELY a missle or drone, I'm saying it's retarded to discount these things. I hope you agree it was something that gives out a visible vaper trail. Know for a FACT because I disagree with you do you? Horseshit, sorry. How can you say that witnesses saying they saw a plane hit the building does NOT support this? DO YOU SAY THAT NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON SAY THEY SAW A HIT? Edited by A.L.Ex - N.E.T.A, Apr 1 2009, 06:51 AM.
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| SPreston | Apr 1 2009, 09:58 AM Post #32 |
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Why would anybody agree to that? There is not one single eyewitness who saw the heavy white smoke trail (official version) or a visible vapor trail (your version). Not one singe eyewitness saw a light pole through a windshield. The light poles and taxi were staged, the generator trailer was staged, the parking lot videos were photoshopped, and living eyewitnesses place an aircraft Over the Naval Annex and far north of the official flight path. The light poles and taxi and generator trailer would have to be staged in your version of events; there is no other alternative. So no, the explosives planted outside and inside the Pentagon would not have to give out a visible vapor trail.  How is it that none of you people can see that the facts that the parking lot video still frames were leaked way back in 2002, which prevented the 9-11 perps from photoshopping the lousy quality videos any further, and thus the videos released in 2006 by FOIA lawsuit hurt the 9-11 perps badly. The videos are worthless as evidence supporting the 9-11 Pentagon OFFICIAL STORY because they were under the control of the primary suspect in the 9-11 Attack on America. Why can't you see that is likely the exact objective of the leaker of the security video still frames with their dates and times off by 32 hours? Maybe somebody risked their life to leak the still frames and ending the photoshopping of false evidence. Or maybe somebody lost their life to leak the still frames. That would be a true patriot wouldn't it?  Edited by SPreston, Apr 1 2009, 10:27 AM.
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| noeffects | Apr 1 2009, 10:38 AM Post #33 |
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im cool with that... who or what agencyleaked the frames ? who was the first to get a copy of that gatecam video ? |
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| SPreston | Apr 1 2009, 10:43 AM Post #34 |
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 The 2002 leaked still frames were adequate evidence that the video(s) existed despite Defense Department denial after denial after denial. But the still frames were out in the public knowledge and stored on thousands of hard drives and therefore unalterable from their original forms with the date/time off by 32 hours. Thus the still frames were adequate for a FOIA judge in 2006 to make his decision and enforcement and the videos were released by the Defense Department; unaltered further between 2002 and 2006. The 9-11 perps were screwed by a leaker.  |
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| SPreston | Apr 1 2009, 10:56 AM Post #35 |
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Unknown. An anonymous person leaked the still frames. Bronco Bingham and Attorney Hodes requested the video release by FOIA and Judicial Watch also requested the video release by FOIA. It appears that Judicial Watch was the first to receive them in 2006.
Edited by SPreston, Apr 1 2009, 11:09 AM.
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| Craig Ranke CIT | Apr 1 2009, 10:59 AM Post #36 |
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Except that there isn't a reason on earth to think that the "damage line" is any "longer than that of what a 757 would make". Remember, the rings between the E & C ring are not separated by walls on the bottom two floors. It's nothing but a maze of columns.  You can tell by counting the rows of windows: 
First-hand witness accounts whose actual location and true POV have been confirmed are evidence. Unconfirmed out of context media quotes are hearsay. That is what we have shown. When forensically analyzed, the witnesses prove the plane did not hit. AND that there was only one plane.
Please. If you make a documentary with that in it you'll be a laughing stock. DoD controlled photographs taken days after the event do not amount to independent evidence for anything. There isn't a reason on earth to think that any of these few parts were there as the result of a plane crash.
As SPreston just made clear, the security video is NOT valid independent evidence. It is DoD controlled proven manipulated evidence. And the "smoke trail" that NOBODY reports witnessing is the most blatantly manipulated part of it.
I'm telling you what there is evidence for. You can "disagree" all you want but your speculation means nothing if you can't provide independent evidence to back it up which you haven't. The fact is that the evidence proves that the plane did NOT hit so whoever says they saw it hit has been deceived or is lying. Edited by Craig Ranke CIT, Apr 1 2009, 11:54 AM.
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| Aldo Marquis CIT | Apr 1 2009, 01:15 PM Post #37 |
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| A.L.Ex - N.E.T.A | Apr 12 2009, 08:04 AM Post #38 |
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dude, you barely know shit, I'm not gonna waste my time on someone who can't think |
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| noeffects | Apr 12 2009, 12:08 PM Post #39 |
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Alex... who you typing to ? |
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| JFK | Apr 12 2009, 12:26 PM Post #40 |
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I would like an answer to that also. |
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| Domenick DiMaggio | Apr 13 2009, 12:39 AM Post #41 |
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for real..... |
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| SPreston | Apr 13 2009, 08:26 PM Post #42 |
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Since A.L.Ex - N.E.T.A only has 45 posts; it seems the "you barely know shit" was addressed to himself. I would agree. |
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| Craig Ranke CIT | Apr 14 2009, 11:53 AM Post #43 |
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This is really just another testament as to how effective the missile disinfo has been. People are emotionally connected to it. And it doesn't help that the people who attacked it most are the 757 impact conspiracy theorist disinfo crowd like Arabesque, Victoria Ashley, John Albanese, and other incorrigible attack-bloggers. But none of them have provided a shred of evidence let alone proof. There is no more "debate" when it comes to the Pentagon attack. The plane was on the north side.....end of story. |
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| Domenick DiMaggio | Apr 14 2009, 11:30 PM Post #44 |
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wonder who pushes all these missile theories that people in this movement still cling to so tightly? |
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