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| Scaffoldrider, A request. | |
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| Topic Started: Feb 14 2009, 09:43 AM (551 Views) | |
| JFK | Feb 14 2009, 09:43 AM Post #1 |
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Could you please repost the plane parts pics which you took at the federal building within this thread using the attachment portion of this forum ? ( Don't worry about filesize, that part of Zetaboards is broken  )Many have been removed from your putfile site. Thanks in advance. |
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| alexvegas | Feb 16 2009, 06:43 AM Post #2 |
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| JFK | Feb 16 2009, 08:37 AM Post #3 |
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| ScaffoldRider | Feb 22 2009, 09:37 AM Post #4 |
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Hi JFK, I'm sorry, I just noticed your request after watching Lin Kuei's great heartwarming video of the kitten and crow. I will try to upload the pictures later today. I have been having trouble uploading, I've had a few request within the last few months for the photographs of the airplane debris. I had to mail a copy of my WTC video to them, but I promise I'll try to post them later. Louie / Scaffoldrider It's strange, a few years have passed and now I have been getting request for the airplane debris photos, even request to see the negatives. Edited by ScaffoldRider, Feb 22 2009, 09:40 AM.
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| JFK | Feb 22 2009, 10:10 AM Post #5 |
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No real rush Louie, I showed someone from another forum a pic which I found archived/cropped elsewhere of the broken landing gear. He is an airframe and powerplant mechanic on 757's and 767's. His response amazed me as he spotted something unusual all of us should have. He also requested to see the originals. As far as uploading them try attaching them to your posts here, that way there will be a permenant archive here as well as the copies I intend to save locally. One other question, Did you use a digital camera when taking those ? I can not find any exif data in the few copies I have found on the net. Thanks again Louie. 
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| ScaffoldRider | Feb 22 2009, 11:09 AM Post #6 |
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           Edit by JFK - fixed embedded images. I'm doing the best I can JFK, but the truth is I have no idea what I'm doing! Trying one at a time.
Edited by JFK, Jul 21 2009, 04:43 PM.
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| JFK | Feb 22 2009, 11:27 AM Post #7 |
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You are doing fine Louie, we can fix it after you get them posted. I see the attachment worked for you with 4_12_2007_069.jpg, that is what I had in mind for all so imageshack will not be able to remove them. Since they are your pictures, Zetaboards can also not legally touch them that way.
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| ScaffoldRider | Feb 22 2009, 11:45 AM Post #8 |
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I have no idea how that attachment 4_12- 069.jpg happened. I did the first picture and somehow the attachment showed up when I posted. Still have a few more pictures to go. I keep jumping back and forth coping the image links. I tried 20 times posting the first picture before getting it to post. This is really sad on my part! LOL I can rig the Empire State Building, but can't figure out how to upload a few pictures. Back to Image Shack, thank God I have a sense of humor or I'd throw this dam computer out the window. Oh by the way, I did that some years back, good things the cops got a good laugh when I told them the computer had gotten the best of me. It would have been alot worst if I had hit someone in the head with the dam thing! It cost me a new window and computer, not to mention an apology to the landlord! Stop laugh JFK! Edited by JFK, Jul 21 2009, 04:44 PM.
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| JFK | Feb 22 2009, 11:50 AM Post #9 |
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  You can add them all in one post if you desire. After you add the first one another box pops up.
Edited by JFK, Feb 22 2009, 11:52 AM.
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| ScaffoldRider | Feb 22 2009, 02:18 PM Post #10 |
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JFK, I'm curious to what the gentleman found unusual in the landing gear photo. I exchanged an email with a retired Air Force investigator, his last name was Nelosn. He had an opinion about one of the photos, I don't remember exactly, but he didn't believe one of the airplane part photos came from a 767. He also wanted to see the negatives but I explained I no longer had them. I was contacted by a guy who wanted to buy the negatives. I explained all my photos were all over the internet for free and even offered to mail him a copy of all my Ground Zero photos. He offered me alot of money for the negatives and it was a time when I was unemployed. I sold the negatives to him. We meet at the Millenium Hotel lobby when it reopened. He looked at the negatives and was mostly concerned with the airplane debris photos. I explained that many of the photos were copyrighted with myself and Corbis. He didn't care, it was strange in hindsight, he handed me an envelope with all new one hundred dollar bills. I often wonder if he was with the government. As you are aware, my photos of the airplane debris has never been released by anyone else. Not even the FBI or in the 911 Commission investigation. In answer to what kind of camera I used. It was a small regular camera I had gotten from my Marlboro cigarette miles. The editor of Corbis was furious with me waiting a month before bringing the picture to him. He said if I contacted him while I was at Ground Zero he would have had his photographers give me professional equipment, especially for all the ariel shots I took on the scaffolds and roof tops. The Corbis editor said he would have paid me $25,000 or more just for the landing gear photos if I brought them to him the day I took them. I never realized at the time of the photos importance, I had already donated many of them to the 911 Photo Project and dozens of websites. Even now 7 years later I give away my amatuer CD to people who still ask for it free. So please let me know what your friend found so unusual about the landing gear photo. Thanks Louie Edited by ScaffoldRider, Feb 22 2009, 02:24 PM.
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| JFK | Feb 22 2009, 02:27 PM Post #11 |
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2 things Louie, the absence of grease, and the rust trails from the moving parts... Oh, and the lack of paint. He also pointed out the remaining paint on the "cap" of what is shown in your pics, and said it should all look like that portion which is "shielded" from the elements in the normal extended position if it did in fact come from AA or UA. He stated that he would expect parts in better condition in regards to the above from a boneyard such as the one in Arizona. That somewhat lends credit to the drone theory. Edit to add - He was not aware that your pics existed until I showed them to him, and his initial reaction was that they were fake pics. Edited by JFK, Feb 22 2009, 02:30 PM.
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| ScaffoldRider | Feb 22 2009, 03:01 PM Post #12 |
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I don't see or recall rust on the landing gear. The yellow paint on the landing year was spray painted by the FBI. I found a small hydrualic piston on the lower Federal Building roof when I first got up on the 7 floor setback roof. I read the metal parts plate on the side of it that's how I knew it was a hydrualic piston. I didn't take a picture of it, I now really wish I did because it had a serial number and part number on the metal plate. I took the part downstairs to the lobby and gave the part to an Postal Inspector. A little while after the inspector and two FBI agents came up to the lower roof where we were rigging scaffolds. The FBI agents asked me my name and wanted to know exactly where I found the part. The gave me hell for touching the part and call all the guys in my crew over and explained that there was parts all over the roof and "NOT" to touch them. The said they spray painted most of the parts with yellow paint. If they had to be moved we were to tell them and the FBI would move the parts if they were in the way of our rigging. Keep in mind JFK, it was probably September 23 or 24 when I took the pictures at the Federal Building. I got to GZ on the 18th, started working of One Liberty Plaza for two day, then the Century 21 Building for a day or so, then a day or two at the Millenium Hotel before starting the Federal Building It rained real bad one day before I got to the Federal Building, maybe the landing gear rusted a little but I don't think so or notice it in my photos. Very interesting. I have had that reaction about my pictures being fake until I show them all my other pictures from GZ. These are real pictures I took and all my crew can verify it, matter of fact one of the guys even got to the upper roof and took a few pictures himself. Shame I don't remember his name and haven't seen him since GZ. Well thanks again, Louie |
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| JFK | Feb 22 2009, 03:11 PM Post #13 |
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The rust trails I am referring to are the trails beginning at the joint of the moving parts and following a trail which would have been consistant with gravity with the gear extended. Your story does clear up the question of the rust on the fractured edges of that landing gear though, Thanks for the clarification Louie. I also wish you had gotten pics of the serial numbers, or a better pic of the number on that landing gear. Edit to add -  Edited by JFK, Feb 22 2009, 03:27 PM.
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| JFK | Jul 21 2009, 05:46 PM Post #14 |
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Louie, Is this an accurate representation of where you were when you took these pics ?
Edited by JFK, Jul 21 2009, 07:02 PM.
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