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| 22205 | Feb 3 2009, 01:31 AM Post #26 |
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speaking of herb, in the news all day today (local tv news on all 4 channels), was this: Exclusive: Michael Phelps Caught Smoking a Bong http://www.starmagazine.com/michael_phelps_bong_weed_drugs/news/15177 more: http://blogs.usatoday.com/gameon/2009/02/are-you-worried.html http://www.usatoday.com/sports/olympics/2009-02-02-phelps-apology_N.htm?loc=interstitialskip http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2009/02/phelps-pot-smok.html  ETA: the good thing is its been made clear (for now anyway) that none of his sponsors are dropping him, so in a sense that translates into making weed more socially acceptable, or at least less looked down upon. at the same time of course, phelps has (had) to play it like smokin weed was a bad thing he did and doesnt do anymore, which i dont think is his honest stance on the issue. so its a compromise between corporate america and "family values" (i.e. religious right) and the undeniable reality that even weed smokers can be successful athletes (and students as is phelps). still - at the end of the day i think its a good thing where weed and dis-spelling the social stigma and propaganda-fueled fear of potheads is concerned. Edited by 22205, Feb 3 2009, 01:40 AM.
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| skunkrider | Feb 3 2009, 07:53 PM Post #27 |
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"Michael Phelps is a great Olympic champion," the IOC said in a statement e-mailed to The Associated Press on Monday. "He apologized for his inappropriate behavior. We have no reason to doubt his sincerity and his commitment to continue to act as a role model." USA Today article Who the hell decided to make Phelps a role-model? Who has the authority to do that anyway? Nobody else but Phelps himself. The IOC, known for their fairness and independence should be considered what they really are - an immobile organization largely consisting of old men who are way past their horizon. If anything, more people smoking pot would make the world a better place. Full stop. "Kids, don't use this non-addictive substance that's prescribed to people in California who get headaches, or you'll end up like this sorry-ass 14-time Olympic gold medalist." http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2009/02/phelps-pot-smok.html 
Edited by skunkrider, Feb 3 2009, 08:13 PM.
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| lighted | Feb 4 2009, 09:44 PM Post #28 |
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Phelps smoked out of a bong. Good for him. Why should I care if he smokes pot? Hes a hero to the drug world and people using medical marijuana! |
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| Stundie | Feb 5 2009, 09:47 AM Post #29 |
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Here is something worth watching?? Horizon: Cannabis: The Evil Weed? http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00hhmd1/Horizon_Cannabis_The_Evil_Weed/ Cannabis is the world's favourite drug, but also one of the least understood. Can cannabis cause schizophrenia? Is it addictive? Can it lead you on to harder drugs? Or is it simply a herb, an undervalued medicine? Addiction specialist Dr John Marsden discovers that modern science is finally beginning to find answers to these questions. John traces the cannabis plants' birthplace in Kazakhstan; finds the origins of our sensitivity to cannabis in the simple sea squirt; and shows just what it does to our brains. He meets people who have been changed by this drug in drastically different ways - from those whose lives have been shattered to those who lives have been revived. Its was quite a well balanced program..... Not sure if you can watch outside of the UK...:( |
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| skunkrider | Feb 5 2009, 09:10 PM Post #30 |
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Cannabis does not cause psychic conditions. Yes, it can have an effect and accelerate preexisting conditions, but that's not the same. The media is constantly misleading about this. JFK, I blame you for having added wimp.com to my addictions  Legalization - Yes We Can http://wimp.com/publicmarijuana/
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| hiphopopotamus | Feb 5 2009, 10:12 PM Post #31 |
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I dont think you can say that with such certainty:
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| skunkrider | Feb 5 2009, 11:24 PM Post #32 |
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I agree. That's a point for you, because I did not mention that I advocate cannabis use for adults only. Therefore I did not take into account teenagers that much. I still want to add though that cannabis is known to have a lasting changing effect on the character of a person if consumed regularly for some time, which may be years. That change is not necessarily a negative one, as suggested by the main stream media. And even though science has started to look into the importance of the cannabinoid system in our brain, many things are not clear, therefore not decidable yet, such as the connection between the chemical effects and character change. People like me know that cannabis is not as harmless as chewing gum, but at the same time we feel cheated, turning this argument into a comparison with the socially accepted but far more dangerous drug alcohol. We feel cheated, that's why we always nag you about the well-worn comparison between cannabis and alcohol, and we do have more than one point in doing so. We don't want alcohol to be outlawed, we want both drugs available! How can people outside the Netherlands argue against legalization claiming that cannabis is this bad to you and that bad to society, when the country of Netherlands and its people do so well? The reason why it's still kind of legal to acquire and smoke cannabis in NL is not the course of the government. The local political organs, in fact every city and count have enough power to keep the business cannabis alive. Everytime local polls and referenda turn out to keep things as they are. Just ask a camping site director what kind of crowd he likes better - drunkards or stoners. I did the test in Germany and Netherlands, and the answer was always the same. I don't necessarily believe that in the 'big picture' everything would become better if legalization happened, but i sure as well guarantee that we wouldn't be worse off  |
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| lighted | Feb 6 2009, 02:36 AM Post #33 |
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Many people believe the Netherlands is a very bad place with much crime because of cannabis being legal. Supposedly if you smoke it you get violent, angry, more aggressive and are likely to go rob a convenient store or anything and shoot the guy/lady at the counter with a gun. After you smoke that last piece of cannabis you feel guilty and suddenly want more cannabis. Supposedly. Edited by lighted, Feb 6 2009, 03:03 AM.
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| skunkrider | Feb 6 2009, 12:41 PM Post #34 |
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  Wow, I swear that with every word of your last post my chin fell deeper and deeper I'm only going to refute this for the reader; not for you, lighted, cause I think you know better... In another discussion I told Rei Murasame that life over here can be pretty 'fluffy' in the sense that we don't have gang wars, drive-by-shootings, etc. In Europe you really don't need to be afraid of people getting crazy with guns (except for at school now and then). The general crime rate is of course different in each country, but the Netherlands is one of the countries with the lowest crime rate, while the Dutch people are relatively content (seen from the p.o.v. of an immigrant). To take Amsterdam into the equation is like saying that NYC is representative for the whole of the United States, but it remains a fact that Amsterdam is the capital, and therefore counts. too. If you have ever been in this town, you'll know what I'm talking about. Apart from the crime factor, cannabis does not get you violent, angry, more aggressive and you're not more likely to rob a convenient store and anything and shoot the guy/lady at the counter with a gun In fact, it does exactly the opposite. It will help you feel relaxed, content, your aggressions disappear and (racing) thoughts come to life.. sometimes thoughts you have never thought before. You're not likely to rob a convenient store, but it may well happen that you storm it in the desperate search for something to keep you from dying due to cotton mouth (very high victim rate amongst stoners)Oh, and yeah, how can I shoot somebody if I don't have access to guns... ...so.... Myth busted. Busted. BUSTED
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| hiphopopotamus | Feb 6 2009, 01:39 PM Post #35 |
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We all know people with easy access to firearms only use them for protection. I mean, with no gun stores it must be so cheap and easy to get them on the black market; no wonder your crime/murder rate is so high. |
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| skunkrider | Feb 6 2009, 02:14 PM Post #36 |
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Oh that? Nah, that's because all the Asian immigrants are trying to take over Europe with Martial Arts. So if you hear of a lethal traffic accident somewhere in Europe, I can guarantee you that Asians tried to carjack somebody. Bank robbery? Wild-fighting Asians. Homicide? Asians. Drug pushing? Asians. Terrorism? Europeans |
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| IVXX | Feb 10 2009, 10:46 AM Post #37 |
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I'm one of these people except I'm sure there's a huge difference between me and your friends. 1st, I don't just go off on a rant. Actually I wouldn't even call it ranting, I would call it debating. 2nd, there's only 2 drugs I will (insert here), that would be cannabis and hash. I will also shoot down the use of every other drug (except one other). Also when we use the word "drugs" let's remember that alcohol, caffeine, nicotine are also drugs. In fact caffeine is the most commonly-used drug in the United States and as far as addiction, nicotine comes in second only to heroin. 3rd, the only time I debate this issue is when someone who drinks totally demonizes cannabis or hash if they've tried the drug before or not but especially if they never have tried it. I have to laugh at someone who's at the bar three or 4 nights a week or likes to have a few drinks at home after work trying to tell me that smoking a joint is evil. If someone has tried cannabis or hash and just doesn't like it, I have no problem. I myself don't drink. Why?? Because I don't like alcohol or the effects. However I won't demonize the responsible use of alcohol by anyone. Now let's face facts, cannabis/hash and alcohol aren't the healthiest choices one can make but if you ask me, on a whole alcohol is worse than cannabis/hash. I'm not only talking one's health though. The majority of domestic violence in this country stems from the abuse of alcohol or drugs much "harder" than cannabis or hash. Most of the people I debate the cannabis/alcohol issue with have no clue what they are talking about. All they know is how they were raised and gov't reports. It's the way society goes. Alcohol is legal and cannabis is illegal so this equals alcohol - good, cannabis - evil. If we lived in a world were that was reversed, cannabis legal, alcohol illegal these same people would be smoking joints and bowls telling everyone how evil alcohol is. Worse than those who drink alcohol and demonize cannabis/hash are the health nuts who don't use alcohol or cannabis/hash and demonize both, however they have no problem with their energy drinks and pills. In fact I would say at this time it's fair to say that caffeine and nicotine are the two most abused drugs there are. These energy drinks and pills boil down to nothing but legalized speed for christ sake. Getting away from health nuts, the person who drinks tons of soda or coffee/tea and smokes a pack or better of cigarettes a day doesn't see it as drug abuse cause very rarely if ever is the word "drug" used in relation to caffeine or nicotine in popular media. With all that said I think we can agree that there is nothing wrong with the responsible use of either alcohol or cannabis/hash. The main focus of that statement being "responsible use". So sit back and fill your mug or pack your bowl, just do so in a responsible way. Edit - Those wondering the other drug I won't shoot down. It's mushrooms, if grown the natural way. Edited by IVXX, Feb 10 2009, 10:49 AM.
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| skunkrider | Feb 10 2009, 07:16 PM Post #38 |
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Hey, nice to see you again, IVXX I agree with the two drugs you "advocate" (lacking a better word here). In fact, I am still thankful towards JFK for recommending the website Wimp.com. There are probably more of this kind of website, collecting diamonds from the internet, but it's hard to find them. The relationship between humans and psychoactive plants. Wimp.com/lifetalk This video takes about an hour, but trust me: it's worth it. "psychoactive plants" in this case included cannabis, tea, nicotine, etc ... even sports, sex and other activities are brought into context. Even before I started smoking marijuana, I knew that my limits were within the confines of "biologically produced" drugs. Funny enough, back in the times when I first verbalized that thought, I used to be a heavy party drinker. As soon as I started smoking (with about 19/20 years) Alcohol disappeared. Since I started smoking about 5 years ago, I did mushrooms four times. That's about how much respect I have towards them. And that's about how much they deserve. The Netherlands recently outlawed mushrooms, because the politicians were influenced by the fascist media apparatus which pushed mental images into the heads, showing poor, unknowing tourists who come here and die because they don't know how "dangerous" mushrooms are. Let's look at this a little closer: I think the numbers of accidents (not even lethal ones) in combination with mushroom use in the Netherlands was about 15-20 per year. Obviously the most horrifying accident was when a French female tourist jumped from a bridge or window of a building and died from the injuries. The media picked up the story and claimed that the girl was hallucinating and thinking that she could fly. (very common lie) I wonder how many hours (!) it would take for the government to outlaw and ban Alcohol if they considered 15-20 accidents per year enough... I'm sick of braindead people telling me that my consumption of marijuana is simply a "period" which I missed in my youth, and that it "will go over". When i tell those people that their thoughts have a fascist tone and nature, they look back at me and ask: "what does this have to do with Nazis?" That's about the moment when I urgently need to go home, roll a joint and numb myself from the misery called humanity. Edited by skunkrider, Feb 10 2009, 07:20 PM.
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| lighted | Feb 23 2009, 03:39 AM Post #39 |
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I hear LSD is much safer. |
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| skunkrider | Feb 23 2009, 06:50 AM Post #40 |
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well, I don't know that from first-hand-experience, but 2 years ago, when the British professor Nutt (anyone daring to make fun of this will not got a free puff of the vaporizer when coming to Amsterdam ) released a broad study that reshaped the list of accepted, soft, hard and medical drugs, according to their potential danger to personal and social health.LSD indeed was on place 19 or 20, while Alcohol being on place 5, and Cannabis on place 11. I don't know how mushrooms could be dangerous. You never lose your own free will. Yes, you might feel bad, be sick and not get better for an hour, but that's it. That's the "horror trip" you can have and that I had once. But going outside on the street, breathing some fresh air definitely helpes. It's more the psychological effects I'd be afraid of having a lasting effect. Oh, talking about effects: |
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| lighted | Feb 23 2009, 03:14 PM Post #41 |
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Oh wow, Skunkrider that was intense it looked like things were moving. In my room, This is proof that reality is more than we can see or what we think we see or what we think is real. A cool hallucinogen experience! Especially if you do it longer and increase the Size of the video on the screen. Edited by lighted, Feb 23 2009, 03:20 PM.
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| skunkrider | Feb 23 2009, 04:06 PM Post #42 |
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how about putting it fullscreen and watching it from 20cm away?
it's a pity that it only stays a couple of seconds.. imagine the possibilities of triggering this without drug induction
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| lighted | Feb 24 2009, 02:05 AM Post #43 |
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Try it in the Dark? Edited by lighted, Feb 24 2009, 02:05 AM.
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| Stundie | Feb 24 2009, 10:42 AM Post #44 |
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Errr..As anyone downloaded the new upload Lost and Damned? I heard there was a new episode of Republican Space Rangers on it. |
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