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Let's use some common sense, Ron Paul will not win
Topic Started: Feb 23 2008, 07:47 PM (648 Views)
Crikey
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Don't know much about Ron Paul and I'm not going to pretend I do. With that said, Ron Paul is not, I repeat NOT going to win the 2008 election let alone become the presidential nominee. He's gotten next to no publicity, and 90% of true Republicans would support McCain any day over Paul. Thoughts?
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JFK
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Even if he did win, he would be murdered.... Nevertheless he has my vote along with the majority of the militaries vote. ;)

Yeah, you are correct... 90% of todays true republicans would support a traitor.
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arbor
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JFK- can you please source your theory that the majority of the military supports ron paul?
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esopxe
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It's about the message, not necessarily Ron Paul becoming President and most of his supporters know this. So many people have opened their eyes to what Ron Paul has to say and that's the most important thing. A lot of people are now going to get involved in politics themselves because of Paul. People are starting to understand that it takes more than one person for things to change.

99% of "Republicans" are not Republicans by definition. They are Neo-Cons. They are people who have redefined the party and molded it into the piece of shit that it is today. Ron Paul is one of the only Republicans out there.

And for the people who say that any particular candidate doesn't stand a chance;
People who don't vote for the person they would want as their President based on whether they believe that candidate stands a chance in winning need to evaluate what they are saying. They are basically selling themselves out and admitting to having no integrity.

arbor, more money from the military goes to Paul than any other candidate. http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.asp?id=N00005906&cycle=2008
Or you can go by what Songbird McCain says, that the military tells him to "let us win".
Edited by esopxe, Feb 24 2008, 01:25 AM.
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JFK
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arbor
Feb 23 2008, 11:31 PM
JFK- can you please source your theory that the majority of the military supports ron paul?
Arbor, I can't find the original link from which I got that statistic, and in retrospect indeed
I may have misread it.

What I did find is this older report, which is similar to the one I referenced.

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As you can see by the last line, 60% support a pull out of Iraq.

While it is true that support directly for Ron Paul is not directly indicated in that sentence,
none of the other candidates support a complete withdrawl by the end of 2008.

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ihatecreditors

Crikey
Feb 23 2008, 07:47 PM
Don't know much about Ron Paul and I'm not going to pretend I do. With that said, Ron Paul is not, I repeat NOT going to win the 2008 election let alone become the presidential nominee. He's gotten next to no publicity, and 90% of true Republicans would support McCain any day over Paul. Thoughts?
It wasn't about Ron Paul from the beginning. It was about his message.

The goal is to push forth the message of our constitution and liberty are you with or with out us?
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SPreston
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Crikey
 
Don't know much about Ron Paul and I'm not going to pretend I do. With that said, Ron Paul is not, I repeat NOT going to win the 2008 election let alone become the presidential nominee. He's gotten next to no publicity, and 90% of true Republicans would support McCain any day over Paul. Thoughts?
esopxe
 
It's about the message, not necessarily Ron Paul becoming President and most of his supporters know this. So many people have opened their eyes to what Ron Paul has to say and that's the most important thing. A lot of people are now going to get involved in politics themselves because of Paul. People are starting to understand that it takes more than one person for things to change.

99% of "Republicans" are not Republicans by definition. They are Neo-Cons. They are people who have redefined the party and molded it into the piece of shit that it is today. Ron Paul is one of the only Republicans out there.

And for the people who say that any particular candidate doesn't stand a chance;
People who don't vote for the person they would want as their President based on whether they believe that candidate stands a chance in winning need to evaluate what they are saying. They are basically selling themselves out and admitting to having no integrity.
ihatecreditors
 
It wasn't about Ron Paul from the beginning. It was about his message.

The goal is to push forth the message of our constitution and liberty are you with or with out us?

Even if I were the only person voting for him, Ron Paul would still get my vote and my 81 year old mother said she would write-in Ron Paul if she had to. Some 9-11 Truthers are angry at Ron Paul because he has not joined us in the search for truth. But 9-11 Truth is a single issue. There are many issues much much more important than 9-11 Truth and bringing the perpetrators to justice. Ron Paul is working on those more important issues for now for the good of ALL America. Ridding us of the thieving private owned and bankruptcy inducing Federal Reserve must be at the top of the list. Ridding us of outsourcing of American jobs and welfare for the super rich corporate internationalists must be at the top of the list. Freeing America from the greedy clutches of the satanic New World Order billionaire elitists must be at the top of the list. Justice for the victims of 9-11 must necessarily be far down the list in importance because a good President must serve ALL of the people. He does not now have the spare time to devote to researching 9-11 that many of us do. But Ron Paul too seeks justice. As a Constitutionalist it is his nature because the US Constitution is all about justice. Do not forget that the victims of Waco and Oklahoma City and Flight 800 and the 93 WTC attack and many other instances of US Government sponsored terrorism also deserve justice. When Ron Paul gets into the White House, he will institute an investigation into 9-11. Ron Paul is the finest representative ALL Americans have in Congress. More than any other representative in the past 27 years, Ron Paul has served ALL Americans and not himself. Ron Paul will be the finest President this nation ever had. The corrupt DemoPublican Congress will not give him many problems because President Ron Paul will take it to the people and let We the People inform OUR representatives to serve America and We the People or get the hell out.

"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." ~Thomas Jefferson 1801-1809

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Ron Paul Congress 2002
 
“Abolishing the Federal Reserve will allow Congress to reassert its Constitutional authority over monetary policy. The Constitution does not give Congress the authority to delegate control over monetary policy to a Central Bank. I urge my colleagues to put an end to the manipulation of the money supply which erodes Americans’ standard of living and enriches well-connected elites.”
Ron Paul Congress April 2007
 
“The greatest threat facing America today is not terrorism or illegal immigration. The greatest threat is the shameless deficit spending of our government and Federal Reserve currency devaluation. The Press sometimes criticizes Federal Reserve policy but the validity of the fiat system itself is never challenged. History shows that when the destruction of monetary value becomes rampant, the political structure becomes unstable. We then have good reason to be concerned about the future of our nation.” here

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