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Like I said, it was going nowhere, and you proved me right with that last post. A JREFian could have written that.

William Rea

Feb 25 2008, 05:23 PM

arbor

Feb 24 2008, 12:40 PM

democratic socialist? you might get your arms and legs torn off by some folks here.

I know, but it was the button I needed to press to get Roxdog out in the open. It was partly successful.

arbor

Feb 25 2008, 05:25 PM

He is just a bully. He was probably beaten up a lot as a kid. So he now comes here and picks on posters. How sad.

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I do find it odd that people feel a need to invent a conspiracy like that

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when it is obvious that improvemnts in global communications and infrastructure has evolved more centralised power structures

arbor

Feb 23 2008, 11:51 AM

how could the elite all be jewish? there are billionaires in every country. are the elites of japan jews? china? saudi arabia? nigeria? silly assumption.

These are the 50 richest people on Earth. They are THE ELITE. Some are Jews. Most are not.

1 William Gates III 48 46.6 United States United States , WA , Medina
2 Warren Buffett 73 42.9 United States United States , NE , Omaha
3 Karl Albrecht 84 23.0 Germany Germany , Donaueschingen
4 Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Alsaud 47 21.5 Saudi Arabia Saudi Arabia , Riyadh
5 Paul Allen 51 21.0 United States United States , WA , Mercer Island
6 Alice Walton 55 20.0 United States United States , TX , Fort Worth
6 Helen Walton 84 20.0 United States United States , AR , Bentonville
6 Jim Walton 56 20.0 United States United States , AR , Bentonville
6 John Walton 58 20.0 United States United States , AR , Bentonville
6 S Robson Walton 60 20.0 United States United States , AR , Bentonville
11 Liliane Bettencourt 81 18.8 France France , Paris
12 Lawrence Ellison 59 18.7 United States United States , CA , Redwood Shores
13 Ingvar Kamprad 77 18.5 Sweden Switzerland , Lausanne
14 Theo Albrecht 81 18.1 Germany Germany , Foehr
15 Kenneth Thomson & family 80 17.2 Canada Canada , Toronto
16 Mikhail Khodorkovsky 40 15.0 Russia Russia , Moscow
17 Carlos Slim Helu 64 13.9 Mexico Mexico , Mexico City
18 Michael Dell 39 13.0 United States United States , TX , Round Rock
19 Steven Ballmer 47 12.4 United States United States , WA , Redmond
19 Li Ka-shing 75 12.4 Hong Kong Hong Kong , Hong Kong
21 Bernard Arnault 55 12.2 France France , Paris
22 Walter, Thomas & Raymond Kwok -- 11.4 Hong Kong Hong Kong , Hong Kong
23 Barbara Cox Anthony 80 11.2 United States United States , HI , Honolulu
23 Anne Cox Chambers 84 11.2 United States United States , GA , Atlanta
25 Roman Abramovich 37 10.6 Russia Russia , Anadyr
26 John Kluge 89 10.5 United States United States , FL , Palm Beach
27 Forrest Mars Jr 72 10.4 United States United States , VA , McLean
27 Jacqueline Mars 65 10.4 United States United States , NJ , Bedminster
27 John Mars 67 10.4 United States United States , VA , Arlington
30 Silvio Berlusconi 67 10.0 Italy Italy , North of Milan
31 Abigail Johnson 42 9.8 United States United States , MA , Boston
32 Birgit Rausing & family 80 9.3 Sweden Switzerland
33 Amancio Ortega 68 9.2 Spain Spain , La Coruna
34 Charles Ergen 51 9.1 United States United States , CO , Denver
35 Sumner Redstone 80 8.9 United States United States , CA , Beverly Hills
36 Gerald Cavendish Grosvenor 52 8.7 United Kingdom United Kingdom , Chester
37 Stefan Persson 56 8.6 Sweden Sweden , Stockholm
38 Pierre Omidyar 36 8.5 United States United States , NV , Henderson
39 Nasser Al-Kharafi & family 60 8.4 Kuwait Kuwait
40 Susanne Klatten 42 8.1 Germany Germany , Bad Homburg
41 Michael Otto & family 60 8.0 Germany Germany , Hamburg
41 Hans Rausing 77 8.0 Sweden United Kingdom , Wadhurst
43 Keith Murdoch 73 7.8 United States United States , NY , New York
44 Donald Newhouse 74 7.7 United States United States , NJ , Somerset County
44 Samuel Newhouse Jr 76 7.7 United States United States , NY , New York
44 Galen Weston & family 63 7.7 Canada Canada , Toronto
47 Carl Icahn 68 7.6 United States United States , NY , New York
47 Robert Pritzker 77 7.6 United States United States , IL , Chicago
47 Thomas Pritzker 53 7.6 United States United States , IL , Chicago
50 Rudolf August Oetker & family 87 7.5 Germany Germany , Bielefeld

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But the Bronfmans? Not quite yet. Even post-Messier, Faith estimates, Charles and Edgar Sr. are worth about $5 billion between them, with several billions more spread among the rest of the clan. So is there no moral here? No cautionary tale? So what? It's still a great story.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/25/books/review/25prial.html?ex=1308888000&en=8544f083814b36b8&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

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In 1965, Rockefeller and other senior businessmen formed the Council of the Americas to stimulate and support economic integration in the Americas. The Council subsequently played a key role in the passage of the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA). In 1992, at a Council sponsored forum, Rockefeller proposed a "Western Hemisphere free trade area", which subsequently became the Free Trade Area of the Americas in a Miami summit in 1994. His and the Council's chief liaison to President Bill Clinton in order to garner support for this initiative was through Clinton's chief of staff, Mack McLarty, whose consultancy firm Kissinger McLarty Associates is a corporate member of the Council, while McLarty himself is on the board of directors.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Rockefeller

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MAYER AMSCHEL'S WILL

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When he died on September 19, 1812, the founder of the House of Rothschild left a will that was just days old. In it, he laid down specific laws by which the House that bore his name would operate in future year.

The laws were as follows:

(1) All key positions in the House of Rothschild were to be held by members of the family, and not by hired hands. Only male members of the family were allowed to participate in the business.

The eldest son of the eldest son was to be the head of the family unless the majority of the rest of the family agreed otherwise. It was for this exceptional reason that Nathan, who was particularly brilliant, was appointed head of the House of Rothschild in 1812.

(2) The family was to intermarry with their own first and second cousins, thus preserving the vast fortune. This rule was strictly adhered to early on but later, when other rich Jewish banking houses came on the scene, it was relaxed to allow some of the Rothschilds to marry selected members of the new elite.

(3) Amschel forbade his heirs "most explicitly, in any circumstances whatever, to have any public inventory made by the courts, or otherwise, of my estate .... Also I forbid any legal action and any publication of the value of the inheritance .... Anyone who disregards these provisions and takes any kind of action which conflicts with them will immediately be regarded as having disputed the will, and shall suffer the consequences of so doing."

(4) Rothschild ordered a perpetual family partnership and provided that the female members of the family, their husbands and children should receive their interest in the estate subject to the management of the male members. They were to have no part in the management of the business. Anyone who disputed this arrangement would lose their interest in the Estate. (The last stipulation was specifically designed to seal the mouths of anyone who might feel like breaking with the family. Rothschild obviously felt that there were a lot of things under the family 'rug' that should never see the light of day).

The mighty strength of the House of Rothschild was based on a variety of important factors:

(A) Complete secrecy resulting from total family control of all business dealings;

(B) An uncanny, one could almost say a supernatural ability to see what lay ahead and to take full advantage of it. The whole family was driven by an insatiable lust for the accumulation of wealth and power, and

(C) Total ruthlessness in all business dealings.
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/slavery.htm