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Aldo Marquis CIT
Mar 22 2008, 01:17 AM
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You are so welcome, anony-MAN. Let me know when you are ready.
No. I KNOW my source. I have spoke with him MANY times. I have seen is AA ID badge. You are an anymous user at Jref.

We have to take your word on that.


"AMTMAN", you are tipping your hand.

Have to take my word on it? Um, you've already confirmed that our document is legitimate. Which means our source is legitimate.

CIT is pulling back the curtain on another operation. From what I can tell, AMTMAN is bouncing back and forth between and I'm paraphrasing 'he's an incompetent AA mechanic who can only work the AA maintencance computer system enough to get one document' to 'hmm, how do you know he is a real AA mechanic, anybody can pretend to be mechanic with a badge'. AMTMAN is covering all bases. Placing the balls under the shells for a shell game, casting doubt for every category of truthseeker. Meanwhile his identity, credentials, and length of employment of employment with AA remain a mystery.

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Oh please. You won't get any threatening phone calls you coward. But nice way to try and taint the reader's mind. Show me where I threatened someone by phone.

Actually I was refering to Rob, that's the game he likes to play. You on the other hand makes threats and name call on message boards.


Threatening phone calls? Show me one threatening phone call from Rob? Show me where I made a threat since being part of CIT?

Names I'll cop to :P

I'm rough around the edges, but I'm the genuine article baby.

You are simply trying to character assassinate Rob and I using baseless accusations and did this while I was away. Your appearances and behavior seemed to be timed with my disappareances from LCF.

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First things are first, prove who you are and prove the validity. of your paper. We will not have him look up the information as we do not want to compromise his identity.

Oh please, the first thing Rob probably did when the information that contradicts his air phone theory came out was to contact his source. He was under the mistaken belief that his source could blow my information out of the water. The fact that he has not provided any such info in the past six months should tell you something. Also the idea your source would comprimise his identity by looking up information is a joke. Besides, what does he have to hide?


Oh it is no joke. He knows he will be terminated immediately. You know this also, except you aren't an AA employee and you want him to be made an example of. The idea of Rob or any of us attacking or threatening you is absurd. It's laughable. If anyone takes a step back you would see how odd and off it is that you would conceal your identity from us for that reason.

Come clean AMTMAN. This is a bet I am willing to take.

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Rob Balsamo: Still working on it. AMTMAN is not going to like it when we're done.

He's had six months to do so. What's the hold up? By the way, I have a little suprise for him.


No you don't. You would have produced it already.

The article and information stands. You and your document are not valid right now. You especially. There are contradictions related to your "page".

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Oh no toots. You seem to forget, we were never involved in this research other than to provide Rob with the source and some support for his findings.

Wait a minute, you just said earlier that you would not have him look up information that would comprimise his idnetity. Now you are saying all you did was provide the source to Rob. Is he your source or Rob's source?


I told you, he is my source and I referred Rob to him. I told you I would not ask him to look up the information because it would compromise his indentity and his job.


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There is no evidence, silly. You have not provided evidence. Don't you get it? We are the reporters, we are the investigators, we have the identified source, we were provided the document from this source.

So basically you are judge, jury and executioner and nobody should question you because you have all the answers? Once again all that has been provided from your side is one page from the AA 757 maintenance manual. Without of course an explanation as to what it all means.


It is all there, anyone including you are free to contact Rob. The final update is coming. Fret not.

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You know we will not divulge his name and you know we won't send our source back in there digging for shit so he can be ID'd now that this has become a big stink and you know that.

More paranoia and excuse making. As I said before I really don't care what his name is. The information can easily be found by him without comprimising his identity. Quite frankly AA could care less about who he is as well.


Nope. You'll just have to wait until update comes out. Right now, the focus is on you.

You are a big part of what is going in relation to this page.

Again, we are publically offering to sign an agreement and have it notarized in order to protect your identity and alleged job with AA. You seem to refuse and this is alarming.

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I don't believe AMTMAN is a genuine aviation professional.

That's odd, Rob seems to think I am.


You sure about that? I'd have a second thought on that one.

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You do not work for AA. You do not even exist. You are not a real person

I don't exist and I'm not a real person? Prove it smart guy.


Ok, you are one to three people on a disinfo team that works in tandem with the team that hacked into AA computers and inserted pages.( Now that's a conspiracy theory ;)) ....- prove you're not. If you refuse to privately divulge your information so we can investigate and verify it, then I have proven it.

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Maybe it's both. What does that have to do with the plane being on the north side.

Well if that's the case maybe you should launch another "investigation" on how AA was in on the conspiracy. A conspiracy that almost bankrupted it and added billions of dollars worth of debt to it's ballance sheet.


Debt is nothing. They simply turn it into another loan. That is the name of the game. You are building a strawman.

AA wasn't in on it and if they were who cares, that will come out in the end.

In the meantime, we'll continue pressing you to obtain and verify your ID, credentials/time with AA.
Have to take my word on it? Um, you've already confirmed that our document is legitimate. Which means our source is legitimate.

There's only one way for me to know if the document is legit or not. That of course being that I work for AA. SO Aldo thank you for confirming to everyone I work for AA.

Threatening phone calls? Show me one threatening phone call from Rob? Show me where I made a threat since being part of CIT?

Well there's Rob's message to Russell Pickering about an army coming to get him. Then there's your threat towards Mark He pulled a Pickering. He is on the run because we were hunting him down.. That sounds like a threat to me.

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CIT is pulling back the curtain on another operation.

I'm sure you are. And what are you going to do with yet another "smoking gun"? Is it going to be on the evening news, the BBC, CNN or in the New York Post? No it will not, it will be used by you to sell cheap DVD's and troll messago boards.

You are simply trying to character assassinate Rob and I using baseless accusations and did this while I was away. Your appearances and behavior seemed to be timed with my disappareances from LCF.

What do you mean baseless? I've already shown the whole air phone story put forth by PfT to be a huge fraud. The very fact you or Rob have not been able to come up with an documentation to prove me wrong says so. In spite of the fact of having a source and two AA AMT's who are PfT members.

I'm rough around the edges, but I'm the genuine article baby.

No, you're a bully who follows a script. If someone disagrees with you you call them names make threats instead of addressing the issues they raise in a respectful manner.

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Oh it is no joke. He knows he will be terminated immediately. You know this also, except you aren't an AA employee and you want him to be made an example of.

You're contradicting yourself Aldo, you've preety much already admitted that I work for AA.

Terminated for what Aldo? For misrepresenting company documents? Quite frankly ALdo given the price of oil I'm sure AA has better things to worry about.

It is all there, anyone including you are free to contact Rob. The final update is coming. Fret not.

It's not going to be an update, it will be nothing more than a continuation of a lie.

Nope. You'll just have to wait until update comes out. Right now, the focus is on you.

On me? Seems to me that this is yet another excuse not to talk about the Temporary Revison, when the initial deactivation of the air phones occured or anything else related to the subject.

Again, we are publically offering to sign an agreement and have it notarized in order to protect your identity and alleged job with AA. You seem to refuse and this is alarming.

Simple rule of thum, do not enter into a contract with someoen you do not trust. So far Aldo you have shown me to be the last person I should trust about anything.

Ok, you are one to three people on a disinfo team that works in tandem with the team that hacked into AA computers and inserted pages.( Now that's a conspiracy theory ;)) ....- prove you're not. If you refuse to privately divulge your information so we can investigate and verify it, then I have proven it.

Hacked into AA's computers and inserted pages. Yet another example of a CT coming up with another conspiracy theory to protect anotehr conspiracy theory. If you have evidence of this you should stop wasting your time here and go to the FAA. Messing with an airlines maintenance manuals can land you in prison. However I have a feeling you will not do that. I guess somebody hacked into PfT's webiste and inserted it into their page as well. See that little TR next to the first sentence in 23-19-00 on PfT's website? Care to explain to me what that means? Not that I'm expecting you to give an honest answer.

As for my personal inforamtion that has nothing to do with the air phone issue. You or your source does not need it to find out whether or not the info I provided is legit or not.

Debt is nothing. They simply turn it into another loan. That is the name of the game.

What ever school taught you that I would ask for my money back. If this were the actual case then no business would ever go under. I'm preety sure the folks at Pan Am, Braniff, Eastern, TWA, National, Midway, Vangaurd and many others wish this were true. Here's is a simple fact about debt and BK within the airline industry since deregualtion. Of all the major airlines that have gone through BK only two were around as going concerns ten years latter. All the others went away. Ask Rob what happened to Indy Air. If what you say is true about debt and loans they should still be around.

No you don't. You would have produced it already.

The article and information stands. You and your document are not valid right now. You especially. There are contradictions related to your "page".


I guess you don't know enough to realize when someone is throwing a piece of bait to you. Quite predictably you bit on it.

What contradictions are you refering to? Since you have no idea how any airline runs its maintenance operation I would say you are totally unqualified to give your opinion on whether or not there are contradictions.

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This is the latest update to 23-19-00. Notice the date at the bottom. Using Rob logic it must mean that the air phones were not deactivated until 9/2007. :)
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