- AMTMAN
- Feb 20 2008, 05:38 PM
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Thank you for proving me right Aldo. You are so predictable.
Aw, you're welcome. Is that supposed to prep the reader? Does that mean they must automatically trust you?
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And you aren't an aviation professional, you are an anonymous user on Jref.
That's exactly what your source is by definition.
No. I KNOW my source. I have spoke with him MANY times. I have seen is AA ID badge. You are an anymous user at Jref.
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We offered you an opportunity to sign an agreement preventing you from divulging or disclosing our contact's name, as we would do the same for you in order that we are able to sort this out. We were the ONLY PARTY concerned with getting to the bottom of this.
Any contract written up by you is not worth the paper it's printed on. I know the second I gave you my name I would be getting threatening phone calls. Quite frankly you don't care about getting to the bottom of anything. All you care about is your little pet theory. It was quite easy for you to sort this out. Have your "source" look up the information I provided. Also if I remember correctly either you or Craig asked me to "work with us and not against us". Another SOP for you two.
Oh please. You won't get any threatening phone calls you coward. But nice way to try and taint the reader's mind. Show me where I threatened someone by phone. We have already went through this with you. First things are first, prove who you are and prove the validity. of your paper. We will not have him look up the information as we do not want to compromise his identity.
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Rob Balsamo: Still working on it. AMTMAN is not going to like it when we're done. Im not surprised he wants to pry us for information as you must remember that he is the anonymous one who showed up a few days after the article was published with paperwork that AA Customer Relations, AA Legal Dept and our source could not produce in the months prior. His paperwork also contradicts the PR Rep of AA and Apathoid. Feel free to quote me.
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What's this? More shit from an another anonymous operative? Good job. You guys are making it easier to connect and identify you and your associates. Isn't it interesting how a Jref Skeptic is using the site of a "9/11 truther" against other 9/11 truthers.
Remember everyone, Arabesque and AMTMAN are anonymous!!!! Think about it!!
None of that link means shit and all of it from an anonymous sabotuer who can't even list witnesses to the Pentagon properly. For crying out loud, he posts witnesses who weren't even there.
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Instead he ignored it and tries to bring this out to use over and over, because he knows CIT doesn't care
That's odd, you seemed to care when you thought the evidence supported your side. As soon as it was shown to be otherwise both you and Rob attacked me then pulled a disappearing act.
Oh no toots. You seem to forget, we were never involved in this research other than to provide Rob with the source and some support for his findings. No one disappeared, b*tch. We've been right here or on PFT's site. Why don't you take your anonymous ass to PFT's forum??? Hmmm?????
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Rob has provided the evidence and moved on waiting for him to prove the validity of his ID and his printout, and because he knows we won't divulge our contact's name.
Rob provided a bogus story pure and simple. Now in the beginning one could make the argument he made a mistake because his "source" did give him all the pertinent facts. However as soon as new evidence showed that his story was wrong and he continued to say it was true he crossed over into knowingly perpetrating a fraud.
What new evidence? There is none. I saw a fishy printout from an anonymous user on Jref who claims to work for AA who just happened to surface after this article came out.
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I don't believe AMTMAN is a genuine aviation professional. He is part of the mysterious, ANONYMOUS, alleged aviation "professionals" at Jref who coincidentally surfaced after the work of CIT and PFT began to rise to prominence. He posts exactly like them.
Once again Aldo than you for proving me right. What's the matter, don't want to talk about the evidence I provided? I surfaced because I stumbled across that BS air phones story and thought it important to show the facts as they were.
There is no evidence, silly. You have not provided evidence. Don't you get it? We are the reporters, we are the investigators, we have the identified source, we were provided the document from this source. You are the ones contesting it, you are the ones who need to provide VERIFIED documentation from a VERIFIED source. You stink like an operative. You're just another Arabtown, Kill-esque anonymous sabotuer. You know we will not divulge his name and you know we won't send our source back in there digging for shit so he can be ID'd now that this has become a big stink and you know that. That's why you are playing this game with us. Oh you just stumbled onto this? Apathoid did not bring you to the mix???? Hmmmm.
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Has the same type venom that interestingly started a little soon for being new to the whole issue.
So now anyone who posts anything that contradicts the great CIT or Rob is actually posting venom, nice. Maybe you can find some documentation to neutralize my "venom". Wait a minute, you don't have any.
We already have lol. Ain't ya been paying attention.
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He actually surfaced after the airphone issue through another anonymous user and alleged aviation mechanic/tech, named Apathoid.
What?
That's what I remember.
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He only brings this up because he knows we won't divulge the name of our contact so he uses that against us to cast doubt.
I actually bought this up to prove a point. The point being that CIT and PfT will jump on any story without verifying if it's actually true if they think it supports their "cause".
No anony-MAN, we verify. That's what we do. Haven't ya seen our work yet? lol.
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And when facts come out showing they are wrong do they admit as much? No they do not, they attack, attack and attack some more. So far Aldo is true to form.
Attack? It's all facts, sweety. You have no evidence. You don't even exist. lol. You're a name and a profile. lol.
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He thinks we really care about airphones when we have already proven the Pentagon attack a lie.
Like I said before you seemed to care when you thought the facts were on your side. And no Aldo you have not proven the Pentagon attack was a lie. All you have proven is that two guys can waste their time and money flying from one coast to another. If you flew AA thanks for the business.
No I didn't care. Craig maybe more than myself. But I didn't and it wasn't important in the grand scheme things. Oh no, baby-doll-sugar pop, we have proven the attack a lie. Didn't ya know, the witnesses all place the plane on the north side of the Citgo and will not recant it. We didn't fly AA, as we couldn't find the special edition remote guided all white, no markings model to fly on. lol. Speaking of business, would ya like a DVD, they are only $15 and go to a worthwhile cause.
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And like I said, we were willing to hash this out and provide the ID of our contact's name so long as he was protected. He chose to continue on with his campaign. He wants us to divulge his ID so he can drop a dime and get him fired. Isn't that right?
I really don't care what his name is. He could have easily set up an anonymous e-mail account and dropped me a line. For whatever reason he choose not to do so. And by the way I'm not a rat. While I may think your source is a moron I'm not in the business of being a stoolie. Besides, under what grounds could he be fired for? Giving a maintenance manual page to Rob? I've seen guys do a lot worse and still keep their jobs. Now he would look like a complete idiot to his manager and he might be told to do a little remedial training but that's as far as it would probably go.
Yawn, blah blah blah. reall confident aint' he? Especially when he gets to remain anonymous and our sources puts his job on the line. NEWS FLASH: You do not work for AA. You do not even exist. You are not a real person. You are just a name and a profile.
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Let us know when you are ready to tackle the north side witnesses who still stand by their placement of the plane and are willing to testify in a court of law, the fraudulent FDR and lack descent angle seen in the surveillance video, the FDR being irreconcilable with the physical damage, the plane being approaching east of the Potomac, Mineta/Belger placing it DRA near Great Falls/Rosslyn, and the plane being 6 mi SE of the WH.
Aldo in order for what you say to be true it would mean either AA is in on the conspiracy or they are completely clueless. Which is it?
Maybe it's both. What does that have to do with the plane being on the north side.
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Until then why don't surry back under a rock with the rest of the roaches at Jref.
Once again Aldo thank you oh so very much in proving me right.
You are so welcome, anony-MAN. Let me know when you are ready.