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Aldo Marquis CIT
Feb 20 2008, 10:30 AM
No not only that guys, but there are more than likely infiltrators on that forum. Me saying this can be used for fodder over there, but I don't care.

The fact is Rob is a real person with a real name with real pilots and aviation professionals backing him. The NTSB releases an animation with a plane on the north side of the sheraton, annex, and citgo way too high to hit the poles, while the data reflects the south side flight path, but stops near the navy annex leaving the plane still too high to hit the light poles, the generator trailer, and leaving it in a descent angle that have had to have shown up on the video that shows an object low and level across the lawn. Not to mention all the other problematic anomalies in the data. Meanwhile, he has called the NTSB and recorded them. He has sought out answers from them and they give no comment and refuse to give reasons why the data shows all these anomalies.

Do you truly believe you should accept answers from an anonymous user on Jref with NO proven credentials, face, or name. Anonymous Jrefers who HAVE BEEN corrected and refuse to be publically recorded on the matter with their names attached. What does that tell you?
Well Aldo this is one aviation professional who does not buy into the garbage PfT, or you, puts out.

It's funny that you talk about anonymous JREF members with no proven credentials, face or name. Isn’t that what the source for this bogus story is? An anonymous, faceless, non-credentialed person who we have to take at someone’s word even exists?

< http://pilotsfor911truth.org/amrarticle.html >
< http://pilotsfor911truth.org/AA757AMM.html >
< http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=85833 >

Sounds like a good story, unfortunately whoever the source was left out some very important details. Like the fact the air phones on AA's 757 fleet was not deactivated until March 31 2002. Or that the first sentence pertaining to the deactivation did not appear until April 2007. That's what the letters TR, Temporary Revision, are for.

< http://img131.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tr2001ri0.jpg >

Another thing Rob, Craig and you failed to mention was ECO F0871 which was the actual deactivation. Now you were either unaware or you purposely ignored it. Not that it matters since ECO F0878 which is on that maintenance manual page was not carried out until 2002. Your source could have told you this very easily. He was either playing you guys for fools or he's a complete idiot.

< http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/search?q=airfones >

Then there's cabin views of AA 757's. At one point people were saying that AA 757's did not even have air phones on board. Of course this was not true. A simple search on airliners.net or jetphotos could have proved that.

< http://www.airliners.net/photo/American-Airlines/American-Airlines/0020665 >

< http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=55280&nseq=10 >

The airliners.net photo was taken prior to 9-11. You can kind of make out the blue AT&T logo in the center of the phone. The jetphotos picture was taken after 9-11. Notice on several of the phones the blue AT&T logo is covered up. It's covered up with this.

< http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=airphonedeactivationplatg1.jpg >

Now do I expect Rob, Craig or you to admit you were wrong? Of course I don't. That's because all three of you believe that they are incapable of being wrong. Here's what I expect, a full frontal attack on me. No documentation to support your position. Just attacks and rambling on about everything but the issue at hand. SOP for you guys.

It’s been five months since Rob said this…
We are currently in the process of analyzing the conflicts and will update this article as more information becomes available.
Don’t you think he could have found this information by now? Especially since there are two AA AMT’s who are PfT members. Maybe someone here could ask honway over at the PfT forums, he works for AA. One would think they could have provided some sort of information to prove me wrong. The very fact that Rob has been silent on this subject says they could not.

Edited by AMTMAN, Feb 20 2008, 03:20 PM.
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