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| RKOwens4 | Feb 2 2008, 09:44 PM |
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This is what I love about Loose Change. First, they aren't even sure what "the truth" is, only that the official version is wrong. In 2nd Edition, they claimed United 93 landed at Cleveland Hopkins Airport. In the Final Cut, they claim (or at least imply) that United 93 was shot down. How many different versions of "the truth" can there be? Second, they apparently haven't paid attention to the footage IN THEIR OWN FILM. First things first, the report of another hijacked plane. Yes, this happened at 10:07. They believed then that the plane was hijacked and still heading for Washington. General Winfield says that the received a report from the FAA that the plane was heading for Washington. This doesn't mean that the plane was heading for Washington, but that he received a report from the FAA and was under the belief that it was heading for Washington. No contradiction with the 9/11 Commission Report there. Loose Change can show the misleading animation at 9:39 all it wants. This doesn't mean the conversation took place at 9:39. General Winfield again says that they were kept informed of the FAA's TIME ESTIMATES as to how far from Washington the plane was. Again, this took place between 10:07 and 10:15. It would have taken Flight 93 about 7 minutes - based on its last known speed - to travel from "80 miles out" to "10 miles out", so this too fits with the timeline. If they were aware of the plane at 9:39, they would have said the plane is about 500 miles out. 80 miles out fits EXACTLY with them learning of it around 10:07. The plane crashed at 10:03 when it was about 150 miles from Washington. General Winfield says it was about 10:03 when the fighters reported the plane had crashed. It's almost certain that he was confusing this with a private plane which was the first to circle over the area and report the rising smoke and crater. Although Loose Change likes to pretend that there was no confusion on 9/11 among anyone, the fact is that it's understandable that General Winfield would mistake the visible confirmation of the downed plane as coming from a fighter rather than a private plane. Loose Change claims that the NBC report, in which the Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff talks of a conversation on 9/11 in which he said to someone that fighters were sent to intercept Flight 93, "completely contradicts" the 9/11 Commission. Wrong. The two Langely fighters were tangled up over D.C. trying to intercept two planes which they found out at 10:10 was their own transponders they were chasing, after which they focused on Flight 93, five minutes before NEADS was notified it had crashed. Ultimately, every single thing presented in Loose Change via media reports shortly after 9/11 fits with the 9/11 Commission's findings. It's just that all of these events took place after the plane had crashed, when military commanders (and even the FAA) BELIEVED the plane was still up and closing in on Washington. But wait, there's that one thing, "straight from the horse's mouth", which contradicts the report, right? And what is this? A statement that the fighter pilots were ordered to intercept Flight 93, supposedly contradicting the report's findings that the shoot down order wasn't passed to the pilots. Apparently Dylan Avery doesn't understand what an intercept is. In fact, an intercept means to reach the plane and trail it from a safe distance. INTERCEPT DOES NOT MEAN SHOOT DOWN. Dozens of planes were intercepted in the years prior to 9/11 (none of them in the United States, though). None were shot down. Again, Loose Change fails to present a single piece of evidence. Edited by RKOwens4, Feb 2 2008, 09:51 PM.
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