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David C

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How do you know that he doesn't have experience in it? How do you know that his experience wasn't different than yours? Is all particulate matter the same? Couldn't some behave the way he described? Seems like a plausible alternative. Based on your own "if there is a plausible alternative then it isn't proof" viewpoint then you have to accept it.

Your addition of the "Any high school science student can tell you that it wouldn't." did not come from the forum you asked on. That is your own OPINION and is not backed up by facts. Do you know the difference between opinion and fact? I think you give high school science students way too much credit.

Here's the thread being discussed.
http://apollohoax.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=theories&action=display&thread=1009&page=1

This is from post #8
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Rocky, what dust does in an atmosphere that it doesn't do in a vacuum is billow about in the vehicle wake and generally hang in the air. The Apollo videos, on the other hand, show dust that falls back to the ground as rapidly as it is thrown up.

They considered the fact that there was no dust billowing to be proof that the footage was taken in a vacuum. I pointed out that it was possible to treat sand to make it dust-free. They then said that just transporting and placing dust-free sand would cause enough erosion to create enough dust to cause a dust-cloud when the sand is driven over. Jay Windley and a few others said they knew this from experience.

This is simply not true. I knew it wasn't true immediately. I told two people with backgrounds in geology what Jay Windley said. One of them laughed out loud. This is a pretty basic fact.

Also, I didn't say Jay Windley didn't have experience in particulates. I said he was lying when he said that he knew from experience that just transporting and placing dust-free sand would cause enough erosion to create enough dust to cause a dust cloud when the sand is driven over.

You're having a hard time obfuscating this one.

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Where are all these mythical viewers DavidC? And this debating hall? Where is that? Are you in one? I'm not. I doubt HeadLikeARock is. If you think you're in a debating hall then you might want to get your head examined. Here's a newsflash for you. You're on an internet forum. Shocking I know. Its not run like a debating hall. It isn't moderated like a debating hall. It is NOT a debating hall. Your insistence that it is somehow similar is comical though. It provides us all with laughs. But while you're on the subject of this nonexistent debating hall, how do you think your actions would be judged in it? How would your lame, rigged credibility tests be looked upon? How would your consistent dodging of the evidence be looked upon? How would your acting like a total twat and expecting to get treated nicely act in various forums get looked upon? There wouldn't be time for anybody else to get laughed out of your nonexistent debating hall because everybody would be too busy laughing at you.

There are a lot of different ways to say someone's response is lame. It can be said that this response is so lame that it would get him laughed out of the debating hall. It can be said that the response is so lame that no intelligent person would be impressed by it. The way HeadLikeARock is responding to my requests that he give straight answers to my questions is just plain lame. I'm really glad he's here because, as the representitive from the Clavius forum, he's making it very clear how full of BS the Clavius forum is.

http://apollohoax.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=viewprofile&user=postbaguk
http://apollohoax.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=theories&action=display&thread=1107&page=1#33457

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Do you think that Jay Windley is an objective truth-seeker?

Which version of objective truth seeker are we going with here? Yours or the the rest of the real world's? He deals in facts.

You're ignoring the evidence I posted. He lied when he said that he knew from experience that just transporting and placing dust-free sand would cause enough erosion to create enough dust to cause a dust-cloud when the sand is driven over.

He also refused to answer a direct question put to him here in reply #3.
http://apollohoax.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=othertheories&action=display&thread=1584

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Do you think the regular pro-Apollo posters at the Clavius forum are objective truth-seekers?

Most of them yes for the same reasons as above. Of course there is no "Clavius" forum. The forum you refer to is simply linked to by the Clavius website. It is run by somebody completely different and Jay Windley has no moderator or admin privileges there. As a "truth seeker" you would think you would know that. Especially as you've been corrected on it multiple times before.

I'm aware of this but on moon hoax threads this forum is generally referred to as the Clavius forum. If I don't call it that, a few people might not know what I'm referring to. This is a trivial point.

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Do you think the behavior of Jay Windley and the rest of the pro-Apollo posters who posted on the threads at Clavius and Bad Astronomy which are shown in this link below is the behavior of objective truth-seekers?

Now this is definitely a loaded question. What about your behaviour? What about your annoying habit of pissing off nearly everyone you come in contact with? What about your accusations against multiple forums and moderators that they are somehow being influenced to lie about Apollo simply because they do or say something you don't agree with? Don't you think your own actions might have something to do with how you've been treated?

It's just a straightforward question. They are obviously trying to obfuscate the evidence. You people can't seem to deal with the issue so you're trying to tap dance around it and bury it.

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WORLD EXCLUSIVE: NASA FINDS MISSING MOON LANDING TAPES

We have to wait till we see this before we can have a serious discussion about it but with the technology available today, this footage is probably fakable. Anything that's fakable isn't conclusive proof. It also won't make all the crushing hoax evidence go away.

Here's something else.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCTU1eLTYWM

He looks like he's lying to me. This is mere circumstantial evidence but all the circumstantial evidence seems to go in the same direction.

There's a good collection of Apollo hoax videos here.
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=straydog02&view=favorites

I've only looked at a few of them. That's where I found the above one. Be sure to check out the comment sections.

None of the people whom I asked to address this in post #862 have responded so here it is again.
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HeadLikeARock-

I'm still waiting for you to give a simple yes or no answer to my questions.

Do you think that Jay Windley is an objective truth-seeker?
http://www.clavius.org/about.html

Do you think the regular pro-Apollo posters at the Clavius forum are objective truth-seekers?
http://apollohoax.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=theories

Do you think the behavior of Jay Windley and the rest of those pro-Apollo posters at the Clavius and Bad Astronomy forums who posted in the threads that can be seen in this link below is the behavior of objective truth-seekers?
http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/single/?p=262548&t=51606

I'd also like to hear Domenick DiMaggio and Lin Kuei's opinions.

I'm waiting.
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