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David C

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Which version of objective truth seeker are we going with here? Yours or the the rest of the real world's? He deals in facts. He understands the science behind the issues he discusses. When he gets something wrong he admits it. I have seen him get corrected and change his viewpoint. He treats other people with respect. That's five points up on you. Assuming you think that you are an objective truth seeker (isn't that a laugh!) then if the option is do I think he is like you? No. He is the complete polar opposite of you. He is somebody I would be proud to meet in real life. Is he a "truth seeker" like you (still funny every time I type it)? No. Not at all. He is heads above you in every respect. Is he an objective truth seeker in the way the rest of the world looks at it? Yes. Much more so than you'll ever be. Which is probably why you seem to be so obsessed with him. Kinda creepy by the way.

I presented some evidence that Jay Windley was a liar. You're supposed to analyze the evidence and give a rebuttal. You're not supposed to ignore the evidence. Here is the evidence again.

http://apollohoax.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=theories&action=display&thread=1009&page=8
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You've obviously never tried to sift and wash particulates.

Sifting is commonly done in order to ensure that some batch of particulate contains particles no larger than a certain size. We do this for high-strength concrete, for example.

Washing is far less commonly done, and that's because it takes a very long time even for small batches of the stuff. It's not a complete process, and it's not a permanent process. As soon as you handle the particulate again in bulk (e.g., chutes, augers, dumping, scooping), the aggregated rubbing generates more small particles.
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http://apollohoax.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=theories&action=display&thread=1009&page=8
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Sand can be sifted and then rinsed as many times as necessary until there are no dust-sized particles.

Until you try to move it, whereupon more dust is created.
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http://apollohoax.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=theories&action=display&thread=1009&page=16
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I don't buy your explanation that the wheel kicking up dirt would cause enough erosion to create enough new dust to form a visible cloud.

I have practical experience with this. You do not, and admit that you cannot because you "live in an apartment." Sheer denial.
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The above is Jay Windley talking. Below is what some people on a geology forum said.


http://www.geologyrocks.co.uk/forum/q_and_a/a_strange_scenario_re_sifted_sand
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Moving and sifting sand is unlikely to produce any finer grains (unless you really go at it and whack it with hammers or something!). However, I think it highly unlikely you could wash and sieve several tonnes of sand and get it all the same grain size...
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transportation and dumping the sand will not be enough to cause dust creation unless you had a very dirty an dusty transport container.
driving a vehicle thru it will not creat dust either (unless you repeat the process insanely often to grind down the sand grains)
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I asked two different people who had backgrounds in geology if just transporting and placing dust-free sand would cause enough erosion to create enough dust to cause a dust cloud when the sand is driven over. Both of them said it wouldn't. Any high school science student can tell you that it wouldn't.

Jay Windley said he knew from experience that it would.

Now consider this evidence I presented and tell me if you think Jay Windley is an objective truth-seeker.

HeadLikeARock-

I'm still waiting for you to give a simple yes or no answer to my questions.

Do you think that Jay Windley is an objective truth-seeker?
http://www.clavius.org/about.html

Do you think the regular pro-Apollo posters at the Clavius forum are objective truth-seekers?
http://apollohoax.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=theories

Do you think the behavior of Jay Windley and the rest of those pro-Apollo posters at the Clavius and Bad Astronomy forums who posted in the threads that can be seen in this link below is the behavior of objective truth-seekers?
http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/single/?p=262548&t=51606

I'd also like to hear Domenick DiMaggio and Lin Kuei's opinions.
Edited by David C, Jul 1 2009, 09:33 AM.
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