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Continuation of NK-44's paper. THE LOBBY For reference; ![]() In the center and marked in red, is elevator 50. Directly beneath and just to the left of it, are elevators 6, and 7. The FDNY command post, is shown in the upper left, and is also marked in red. On the right side you can see the Plaza-escalators, and on the south side is the exit/entrance to the Marriot Hotel. Lobby Damage North Side ![]() ![]() West Side ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() No signs of burning or soot are visible in any of these pictures. Even the plants in the area weren't singed. If a fireball had sufficient blast pressure to blow out the windows on the west front as well as destroy the heavy, well secured marble panels of the core-walls, some visible signs of burning would be expected. The Naudet-brothers footage provides no indication that the blown windows and panels were the result of a fireball. From the member of the (old) Loose Change Forum, "HocusLocus": "A working graphic I put together to examine conditions in NT lobby with elevator car numbers and floors served. Blueprint A-A-20 overlays it directly in dull blue, original graphic was probably drawn from that. Naudet entered from the West (left), marble facing damage is noted in orange." ![]() "As pasted onto the diagram above, a wider view of the "marble facing damage"... ![]() "I did a 'perspective undistort' after erasing objects which occlude the 2 dimensional plane of interest -- The core section of the Lobby, West wall -- to make a composite of images which represent the clearest possible photographic record of marble facing damage in North Tower Lobby: ![]() So we have blast pressure coming out of the core elevator hallway that is sufficient to unhinge the drop-down facing over the top of the interior hallway -- but not blow it off. We have what appears to be a severe dislocation event along the West wall of the core -- but not along its full extent. The damage is mostly confined to the portion of West wall that is immediately in front of the Zone Local elevators that served floors 25-32." East Side Compare the damage to the east-side of the lobby. In the background to the left, you can see the east-side wall of the core: ![]() Figure 8-2. Escalator from mezzanine to concourse level in WTC 1 on 9/11 No damage is visible, same with the east-side perimeter windows: ![]() ![]() Figure 8-1. View from mezzanine level in WTC 1 looking east across WTC plaza, covered with debris. 'Sphere,' artwork by Fritz Koening, can be seen on the plaza. ![]() In the background (above) you can see some of the east side revolving doors Here's a closer view: ![]() They are undamaged as well. The damage pattern is inconsistent with the location of the express elevators. As previously noted, the doors of elevators 6 and 7 were closed. Therefore jet-fuel, if present, had no outside access to the lobby where it could vaporize into an explosive fuel-air mixture. The absence of an explosive fuel-air mixture is evidenced by the fact that the maximum damage occurred away from that area. This is confirmed by eyewitnesses: no one in the lobby reported the occurrence of jet-fuel before any explosion. Also, elevator 50 has been ruled out based on the testimonies of Griffith and Cruz. But even without their reports, elevator 50 must be ruled out, due to the inconsistent damage pattern. In addition to the visual evidence, the firefighter-testimonies left no doubt that the express elevators suffered only minor damage compared to other elevators, whose shafts did not reach as far as the impact zone. Damage caused by shaking? Before going into the eyewitnesses reports, one particular counter argument should be addressed. That is the contention that the plane impact and the subsequent shaking of the building caused the damage. Indeed, there are many reports, (http://911stories.googlepages.com/insidethenorthtower:witnessaccounts91-60) that ceiling ties collapsed or that water pipes were broken on the upper floors. But this explanation does not account for the damage in the lobby or the basement. As has already been seen, damage in the basement was ccompanied with strong winds and smoke. Effects uncommon with structural vibration. Also, if the damage in the lobby was caused by the shaking of the building, why would this result in only lobby level windows breaking, but not at the higher floors, which were more stressed by swaying? And why would the windows blow out only on a particular site of the lobby? Besides the windows, if the removed marble panels were result of the impact one might also expect to observe this phenomena on the opposite east-side, or on the north-side of the core, where the plane hit and the columns experienced the most stress. From the NIST: ![]() http://wtc.nist.gov/WTC_Conf_Sep13-15/session3/3Fahim2.pdf Here's the account of Earlyne Johnson: "The communications specialist had just missed the elevator up to her 65th-floor office when she felt an explosion, followed by a hail of shattering glass. She covered her head with her arms, dashed for the exit, then set out to find her 51-year-old, asthmatic mother." http://nymag.com/news/features/19146/index1.html If the breaking of the windows in the lobby, or the collapsing and cracking of walls in the basement, were caused by the swaying, it would be expected to have occurred over a longer period - as long as the duration of the heavy vibration - and not to have happened within an instant. Lobby Damage - eyewitnesses accounts An examination of the eyewitness accounts, starts with the experience of FDNY Lieutenant William Walsh for the WTC Task Force: "[Lt. Walsh:] What I observed as I was going through these doors and I got into the lobby of the World Trade Center was that the lobby of the Trade Center didn't appear as though it had any lights. All of the glass on the first floor that abuts West Street was blown out. The glass in the revolving doors was blown out. All of the glass in the lobby was blown out. The wall panels on the wall are made of marble. It's about two or three inches thick. They're about ten feet high by ten feet wide. A lot of those were hanging off the wall. [Walsh:] What else I observed in the lobby was that -- there's basically two areas of elevators. There's elevators off to the left-hand side which are really the express elevators. That would be the elevators that's facing north. Then on the right-hand side there's also elevators that are express elevators, and that would be facing south. In the center of these two elevator shafts would be elevators that go to the lower floors. They were blown off the hinges. That's where the service elevator was also. [B.C. Congiusta:] Were these elevators that went to the upper floors? They weren't side lobby elevators? [Walsh:] No, no, I'd say that they went through floors 30 and below. [B.C. Congiusta:] And they were blown off? [Walsh:] They were blown off the hinges, and you could see the shafts. The elevators on the extreme north side and the other express elevator on the extreme south side, they looked intact to me from what I could see, the doors anyway." http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/9110442.PDF According to his testimony, the only damaged elevators were in the center of the core, and not on the north or south side bank. This eliminates 6 and 7, since they were in the south side bank. And as he is speaking in plural, and explicitly mentions that the elevators in question served the lower floors from “30 and below“, which would be elevators from Bank A and B, it can also be concluded that he is not talking of elevator 50 - although its location is in the center of the core. Thus his account stands in bright contrast to the official version. Local bank elevators most damaged From additional firefighter accounts it's also evident that the express elevators were not the most severed ones. Starting with this most descriptive account, provided by firefighter Bill Wall. Firefighter Bill Wall: "We get into the lobby of the north tower and the first elevator bank, there was one elevator out of the six that still had the lights on, but they couldn't get it to work. Meanwhile, all the other elevators were blown off their doors. So we tried the next elevator bank of six and they finally got one that worked to the 24th floor. I think it was captain of 21 he went up to check. He went up and he came back down. He went up with his guys and someone from the truck took the elevator. And then the other engine went up in the next load, 22, and on the load after that, the truck was going up. They wanted one of our guys to run the elevators since there was only one truck, so I gave the control radio to Fireman Louie Cacchioli." http://www.firehouse.com/terrorist/911/magazine/gz/wall.html In that quote, it is learned that when firefighter Lieutenant Bill Wall first enters the North Tower, they tried an elevator in the first bank. Only one of the elevators still had its lights on, the rest had their doors blown off. Wall is referring to a local elevator bank because he tells us the bank has 6 elevators in it, and this could only mean a local bank. He also explained that he then tried the next elevator bank of 6, bank A. In this bank they were able to find a working elevator, which took them as high as the 24th floor. By looking at the local elevator elevations, it can be seen that only one local bank reached to floor 24. That bank is bank B. (Zone1 Elevation Banks ABCD) http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/plans/frames.html This also means that the first bank that Wall describes as having all elevator doors blown off, except for one with its lights still on, had to be of bank A. Bank A elevators went as high as the 16th floor. That Lieutenant Wall is talking of bank A and B is corroborated by this quote from the NIST: The Port Authority vertical transportation personnel and FDNY Command Post staff were unaware of the elevator that was operating inside WTC 1. This elevator was staffed by a WTC building Elevator Starter. The Elevator Starter took a small number of FDNY personnel up to the 16th floor using this elevator. (NIST NCSTAR 1-8, p.79) This is the elevator Lieutenant Wall spoke of. The only one in bank A still having its light on and which they couldn't get to work at that time, so they went to the next bank. So how does jet-fuel find its way into bank A? A bank of local elevators which only served up to floor 16, and then on floor 19 became floorspace for toilets. A bank which was nowhere near the only 2 shafts which had continuity from the impact zone to the lower levels. To the best of my knowledge, this is only existing picture of the inner core: ![]() Looking from east to west, elevator bank A is located at the first opening on the right hand side, where the man in the yellow shirt appears to be emerging. Note that this area does not appear to be burnt. On the left are the express elevators, beginning with elevator 5, and followed by 6 and 7. Though it's hard to see because of the blurry image quality, it seems that, beginning from the location of elevator 5, the ceiling and walls are charred. Note that no marble panels appear visibly removed and that no blown-out cars can be observed. Supporters of the official version frequently remark that explosives do not produce significant flame, and what appears to be a burnt area within the center of the core, could not have been produced by explosives. It is known that this is not at all true and that explosives can produce burnt areas (see section-"About explosions"). But anyway, it was possible for a jet-fuel fireball to emerge from shafts 6/ 7 or 50. It's also possible that this fireball caused the burnt walls and ceiling shown in the screen shot. Lieutenant Bill Wall tells us bank A had 5 out of 6 of its elevator doors blown off. There appears to be no burnt walls or ceiling around elevator bank A (and bank B as well). And firefighter Green reported, that the ceiling over a pile of burned bodies wasn't charred (see his account below on page 62). The center of the core area, where quite possibly burning jet-fuel emerged, was black and charred. The hallway-side of bank A, where Lieutenant Bill witnessed blown elevators, remained unburnt (as far as can be determined from the picture). Unburnt just like the rest of the lobby, despite the charred area in the inner core. Besides the fact that jet-fuel cannot explain the damage to elevator bank A, the screen shot of the core provides additional evidence that the jet-fuel fireball and the explosions were two separate events. From the existing footage it's known that the east-side of the lobby and its core suffered less damage than the west side (no destroyed windows or removed marble panels) - despite almost all elevators on the east side in bank A and B being destroyed. So it seems that banks C and D suffered even greater damage. This is indicated by the following accounts, though they (or some of them) could also refer to bank A and B, as they are more vague and less descriptive than Bill Wall's one. Firefighter John Moribito: "I noticed that some of the elevators had been blown out of their shafts. They came down and crashed out of the shaft. They were buckled, and I had noticed that there were people still in the elevators. I believe that they were at that point deceased. Then I saw the lights in both buildings went out, and I heard the rumble. At that point, I didn’t know what was happening, but 2 World Trade Center was collapsing." http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/9110354.PDF This could not have been elevator 50 nor could it have been 6 and 7 - which were out of service and their cars parked at B1. So why did they come down and "crashed out of their shafts“, when their cables were not in the impact zone? How could they have been "blown out of their shafts" when even elevator 6, 7 and 50 were not blown out? Those were the only possible origins for the explosion - at least according to the official version. It seems that Moribito misinterpreted the violent affects on the elevator cars, believing the observed buckling was caused by their crashes, which he did not witness. He witnessed only the result, but the cause was only his interpretation. His account corroborates Wall's account: that the most severed elevators were not the express elevators Firefighter Peter Blaich: "The same thing happened to the elevators in the main lobby. They were basically blown out. I don't recall if I actually saw people in there. What got me initially in the lobby was that as soon as we went in, all the windows were blown out, and there were one or two burning cars outside." http://www.firehouse.com/terrorist/911/magazine/gz/blaich.html Firefighter Blaich corroborates Moribito's account, that elevator cars have been blown out. The exact location of them remains unknown, but 6/7 and 50. can be excluded. Firefighter Brian Becker: "When we got to the staging area inside the lobby, I remember seeing other companies. I remember vividly seeing it looked like the core elevators of the building were blown apart as if a giant had punched through tinfoil. I remember seeing some bodies." http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/9110266.PDF Again, the core elevators. Firefighter Peter Fallucca: "Before we got in, all the elevators were crashed down in the lobby, and we were going to the stairwell. See all the elevators were crashed down, big slabs of marble on the floor, all the ceiling tiles of the dropped ceiling was falling down, wires hanging. You see wires and stuff hanging inside the elevator shafts, because the doors were blown right off the elevators. (...) There was one body inside the lobby. Looked like his legs were chopped off. I don't know where he came from, but he had already had a triage tag on him. It was a civilian. I don't know where he came from, how he died. Looked like his clothes were a little burnt up on him, but his legs were chopped off." http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/html/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/met_WTC_histories_full_01.html Of course "all elevators" is an exaggeration. He certainly should not have used the phrase “all elevators“ when only a few had been affected. And again it's another example of damage being misinterpreted as being caused by "crashing" elevators. Note that "chopped off legs" indicates a shock wave, in line with an explosive device, not a jet-fuel deflagration. Another quote regarding - supposedly the same - leg: "After about an hour of maneuvering the stairwells, Forney and his group reached the lobby, but the unnerving sight of the outside world brought no reassurance. "On the ground you saw black, some metal objects, but a lot of stuff was smoldering," Forney said. "I remember seeing a leg, but I didn’t see the body." http://web.archive.org/web/20020607071424/http://www.rice.edu/projects/reno/rn/20011115/Templates/survivor.html Firefighter Geroge Kozlowski: "We did see bodies that got pulled out of the elevators because all the elevators fell." Of course 'all the elevators fell' is just poor inaccurate phrasing. It would be interesting to know from which elevators, bodies were pulled out. It's established that the people in elevator 50 survived, even though that was the most likely path for jet-fuel to reach the basement and the lobby, while people in elevators not connected to the impact zone, i.e. no path for jet-fuel, died as consequence of the blast. Firefighter William Green: "We entered in through the front doors of the lobby. The lobby was screwed. All the windows were already broken. Marble walls that surrounded the elevator shaft, they were cracked and broken. I’m still thinking a bomb went off. We headed for the B staircase. It was pretty much in the center of the core. We had to go through these turnstiles. I remember there was a lot of rubble on the floor there. There was elevator doors ajar. There were elevator doors missing. I could see an elevator car twisted in the shaft. I remember I looked up at the ceiling because I thought maybe the ceiling got charred because there was a bunch of rubble on the floor. It was about three feet high in the middle. The ceiling wasn’t charred. So I had thought the floor blew up. I was telling guys afterwards the floor must have blown up. Maybe there was a bomb downstairs or something. But I came to learn that that was bodies. We had to climb over and around this pile. Q. A pile of bodies, in the lobby? A. I didn’t recognize it as bodies. I don’t know if my mind didn’t see it. Q. Burned? A. Burned. Q. Near the elevators? A. It looked like rubble to me. Q. Right. A. Right outside the elevators, in the core. We had to climb up and around it—it was like three feet high in the middle—to enter the B staircase." http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/9110392.PDF Why does firefighter Green still think that a bomb went off? Because what he describes matches with effects caused by a detonation. Even the ceiling over the pile of bodies wasn't charred. A pile which wasn't recognized as being bodies even by an experienced firefighter. So the people in this area of damaged elevators - elevators which had no connectivity to the impact zone - suffered not only burnings, but also violent blast effects. One man - little burned - had his legs chopped off. Others had their clothes blown off, another man's tongue was lying on the ground (see account of Moribito). Elevators 6 and 7 The account most in support of the official version comes from Dave Bobbitt, Port Authority Operations: "It was quite hectic, and we did what we could to stay in contact with the elevator passengers while helping to direct other people out of the building and direct firemen to the stairs and the elevators," Bobbitt remarked. "When entering the North Tower, we saw the marble on the walls was severely cracked, and Riccardelli told everyone to stay back from the walls. Don (Parente) noticed that the doors of elevators number 6 and 7 had been blown out." (From "Courage Above and Beyond the Call of Duty: A Report of the September 11") Elevator 6 and 7 are explicitly mentioned, and this is the only account regarding the lobby in which damage to these elevators is ever mentioned. The blown doors could have been the result of a jet-fuel explosion, but not necessarily. Elevators 6 and 7 had doors that opened on both sides. If the doors were only blown out on the north side, this would more likely be the result of an explosion emerging from somewhere outside, since there is no reason to assume that the exploding gas in the shaft would only expand to one side while leaving the doors on the south side intact. If the damage in the lobby was caused by an explosion inside shaft 6/7, then it would be expected that severe damage, including broken glass, would have occurred on the south side front of the lobby, where elevators 6 and 7 also had openings - in contrast to the damage on the west side, which was shielded by two elevator banks. South side Unfortunately, no footage from the south side has been released to the public. But from other eyewitnesses accounts it is evident that the south side did not experience damage comparable to the west side: Ronnie Clifford: "At around 8.45am, Ronnie walked into the lobby of the Marriott, which was connected to the lobby of the north tower by a revolving door. As he was checking his yellow tie in a mirror, he felt a massive explosion, followed several seconds later by a reverberation, a warping effect that he describes as the "harmonic tolerance of a building that's shaking like a tuning fork". He peered through the revolving door into the lobby of the north tower. It was filling with haze. People were scurrying to escape what had become a "hurricane of flying debris". Yet Ronnie remained untouched. It was as though the revolving door were a glass portal to another realm, a world of chaos and soot just inches away. The Marriott lobby was calm, the marble surfaces polished and antiseptic." http://www.booknoise.net/americana/excerpts/index.html The revolving doors were just across from the south side openings of elevators 6 and 7. If those elevators were the origin of the blast, then why didn't Clifford see a fireball emerging from there, and why was the glass still intact? That the south side wasn't damaged, but instead served as exit for many people, is also evident from Lakshman Achutan's account. He was attending a business meeting and reported two "thuds“, shaking the chandeliers. He was in a group of 175 people who then "stood up and ran to the exits“. "As we came out of ballroom we had to chose of either going towards the elevators of the WTC, which was the natural way to go because it was very well laid. Or to go towards the lobby of the hotel". The elevators he is referring to were the elevators in the south side bank. This is apparent from the fact that they had to choose, to go there, or to the lobby of the Marriot Hotel, which was to the south side of the North Tower. "And many of us went towards the elevators, but then there was already a lot of dust, coming out , emanating from the elevator shafts that have been forced down. So we went back into the lobby [of the Marriot Hotel], it wasn't very easy to get out because there was a couple of revolving doors, and when you have a lot of people trying to get through them. The security guard opened up a bar which was part of the hotel." First, a lot of people escaped through the revolving doors on the south side into the lobby of the Marriot Hotel (WTC 3). Thus corroborating Clifford's account. More important, when Achutan and his colleagues entered the lobby of the North Tower, they had to decide whether to go to the elevators or to the south side exit. Certainly, many of them wouldn't have gone towards the elevators when they were heavily severed, with doors, not to mention their cars, blown out. After realizing that dust was emanating from them, they made the decision to leave the lobby through the undamaged south side exits. With regard to the official explanation, what makes the concentration of the damage to the west side even more implausible, is the fact, that if shaft 6/7 was the origin, the damage pattern should have occurred in a north-south direction. "In the express elevator shafts, beams framing in the north-south direction were typically encased in concrete. Steel in the other direction consisted of built-up welded box girders and columns with sprayed on fireproofing." (NIST NCSTAR 1- 1C) Thus, the expanding gas in the shaft would have been blocked by a concrete-wall at the west and east side, where the guardrails were placed. The walls on the north and south side were made out of sheet rock. Though no direct footage of the south side is available - besides a small part to the west-corner - we have some indirect visual conformation of the eyewitnesses accounts. Look at this video. ![]() Video Link below; http://www.file-upload.net/view-1331031/Peoplefromsouthside.gif.html Download here; http://uploading.com/files/P9P02BPN/Peoplefromsouthside.gif.html or here; http://www.turboupload.com/files/get/5_ZJ6LrWgJ/peoplefromsouthside.gif In the above scene, a security guy runs towards a group of women, who have just come around the corner. Responding to the damage they are seeing, they apparently react with astonishment and shock, especially the blond woman in the front. If they had just seen comparable damage on the south side, they shouldn't have been so surprised when they came around the corner to the west side and saw more of the same. Clearly, the women saw something unexpected when coming around the corner, something they didn't see before, when they were on the south side. Jet-fuel - the impossible theory If the express elevators were the origin of the explosion, and if this explosion managed to cause massive damage to the west side of the core and the lobby's west front windows, then it certainly would be expected that similar damage would have occurred on the south side, too. Even though they were not shielded by two elevator banks like the windows on the west front, the windows with a direct sight line to the south side-openings of elevators 6 and 7 were intact. From that it must be concluded that the elevator 6 and 7 doors were - if at all - blown out only on one side - the north side to the center, as a result of an explosion occurring from outside. Looking again at the blurry picture of the core hallway, it doesn't seem that the doors of 6 and 7 have been blown outwards into the corridor floor. Though the picture is inconclusive due to its quality, it at least in no way suggests or implies that elevators 6 and/or 7 were the most severed, and shows that their cars were not blown out. Remember what the NIST said about elevators 6 and 7: "The doors were blown off by the fireball that came down the elevator shaft and the elevators cars were burned. (Basement level of WTC 1)." (NIST NCSTAR 1-8, p.43) This means that the majority of jet-fuel spilling down shaft 6/7 would have been blocked by the cars at B1, resulting in the bulk of the fuel collecting on their ceilings or entering them - therefore most of it could not have reached the pit in B4. It is unreasonable to assume that all or most of the jet-fuel would just pass around the cars. Thus, we can place Basement 1 as the center of the jet-fuel explosion - presuming there was a jet-fuel explosion in shaft 6/7 at all. Anyway, according to the NIST the cars at B1 were burned - which would be in line with jet-fuel pouring down on them and then igniting, producing charred ceilings over the north-side door openings in the lobby. But, according to the official version, the jet-fuel exploded in shaft 6/7, blew out walls in Basement 4 and 2 over a great area, blew off the elevator doors in Basement 1 (NIST), blew the north-side openings in the lobby, but left the south-side doors intact, and then destroyed several elevator banks in the north-west and north-east direction - while leaving the south side of the lobby intact. And at the same time the blast left the cars burned, but not destroyed, and left the walls of the shaft intact - which is derived from the NIST's statement that the burnt cars were parked at B1. Not only would this seem unlikely, it would appear to be impossible. But it's not necessary to theorize any more. With the existing eyewitness accounts and the footage, there is enough evidence proving that shaft 6/7 was not the center of the explosion. There are the firefighters, who reported that local elevators "were blown apart as if a giant had punched through tinfoil". Footage and corroborated eyewitness accounts establish that the north and south side elevator banks were comparatively intact. None of their cars had been blown out, none of the reports of dead people inside elevators were attributed to them. And with the accounts of Griffith and Cruz, the possibility of elevator shaft 50 being the center of the explosions can be laid to rest. Thus, by excluding the only possible shafts as origin for the explosions, the official jet-fuel theory is refuted. Confusing events The whole situation is complicated by the confusing occurrence of different events. There was an explosion immediately following the plane impact. This explosion had violent blast effects and destroyed elevators not reaching into the impact zone, people were killed by the blast and incinerated beyond recognition. Effects in common with explosives. As well, there is the later occurrence of at least one fireball in the freight elevator shaft. This fireball produced no significant blast pressure - as was the same with all other fireballs reported in the floors below the impact zone - showing all the signs of a jet-fuel deflagration, putting people on fire. It cannot explain - because of its timing (see chapter 6) and by its blast effect - the damage to the basement and lobby. The occurrence of (a) later fireball(s) in the lobby is also evident from firefighter accounts, although it cannot be said whether they're related to the same fireball witnessed by Griffith and Cruz. "Sean, you gotta be careful," Morabito said. "This is a bad situation." They boarded the rig. Morabito was the chauffeur, a job for experienced firefighters with additional training. His officer, Lt. Harrell, sat next to him. Four on-duty and three off-duty firefighters climbed on. Morabito drove only a few yards. Bodies on Liberty Street blocked his path. "I stop the rig, and I look at my officer and say, ‘It’s a body,’ and he says, ‘You gotta go. They’re dead, you gotta go.’ So we rolled over them, pulled down the street." Turning left on Liberty, they were blocked again by a Lincoln Town Car, a taxi. The woman inside couldn’t get it moving. The siren was on, lights flashing, firefighters yelling from the rear of the truck. A police officer jumped in the Lincoln but couldn’t engage the shifter. "So I had to ram the car," Morabito said. "I push the car, it goes up on the sidewalk." They turned right onto West Street, nearing the entrance to the north tower. A man — in shock, his clothes on fire — crossed in front of them. "He’s completely engulfed in flames, and he’s looking at me because now he thinks I’m going to run him over," Morabito says. Morabito skidded the truck sideways to stop the man from running and got out as another man came charging off the sidewalk and tackled the burning man, damping out the flames with a jacket. They were 100 feet from the tower entrance.(...) Just inside the front entrance, Morabito found two victims of the fireball. A man, already dead, was pushed against a wall, his clothes gone, his eyeglasses blackened, his tongue lying on the floor next to him. The other was a woman, with no clothes, her hair burned off, her eyes sealed. "The woman, she sat up. I’m yelling to her, ‘Don’t worry, we’re going to help you,’" Morabito said. "She sat up and was trying to talk, but her throat had closed up. She died right there." http://www.fdnytenhouse.com/911/story01.htm Note that between the plane's impact and the observance of the burning man on West Street, there was a timespan of several minutes. If this man did not burn for several minutes, which is unlikely, than this further demonstrates the existence of a later event putting people on fire. Note also, he described a man who was pushed against the wall with his tongue lying on the floor. It's difficult to imagine this was the result of the same fireball that Griffith witnessed, where Cruz was pulled from the car just seconds before a fireball engulfed it. Why wasn't Cruz and her rescuers blasted against the wall? Again, this indicates there were different explosions causing different effects, at different times, and with different origins. Please watch also this interview(at 6:45) by Firefighter John Schroeder, (http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=-7471885217846396761&q=john+schroeder&total=112&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1) which corroborates the occurrence of a fireball in the lobby minutes after the basement-explosion. The later occurrence of jet-fuel induced fireball(s) makes it easy to understand why people mixed both events (i.e. the initial basement explosion and the later fireball(s)) and confused their results. What would you think if you arrived at the lobby, experienced a fireball emanating from an elevator and noticed the odor of kerosene? Wouldn't you conclude that, all the damage to the elevators and other structures - were the results of the first basement explosion - and had all been caused by jet-fuel fireballs? MM (for NK-44) |
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