- Mick
- May 22 2009, 02:27 AM
- Domenick DiMaggio
- May 22 2009, 01:22 AM
you don't have to be an aviation crash investigating authoritive to recognize a plane crash. never in all of history have people showed up to a plane crash site and asked "what happened here?" or "wheres the plane?"
people aren't stupid. they dont have to spend years taking courses and classes to be able to recognize a crashed 757.
ok the media is unreliable but the government isn't?
can we agree that when something impacts the ground and creates a crater that craters depth tells us the deepest penetration achieved by the impacting object?
Well, then how many times has an airliner crashed like United 93 was supposed to have?
flight 427 was a 737 which nose dived from 6000' into the ground in aliquippa, pa.
does it look like a plane crashed there?
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If a lay person has not experienced such a catastrophic event (like flight 93) before, they may have no idea what to expect or not see what they expect to see.
its 100 tons of airplane. it doesn't vanish.
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Did any of the persons quoted in the video have any experience with similar crash sites?
why are you repeating questions?
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This is important to know if we should expect to place any significance in their statements at all.
did you really read my reply? are you skipping? do you need a nudge?
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Why would they be expected to know it was a 757 instead of any other medium sized airliner?
i don't expect them to know its a 757. i expect them to know its an airplane.
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I am familiar with aircraft, but it beats me how I can tell the difference between the high speed crash sites of 757, 767, 737 or Airbus medium sized airliners.
and yet you take a hole in the ground shaped like a plane to be proof of a plane crash?
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Expecting someone to identify a 757 in small pieces in or on the ground is really setting the bar too high in my opinion.
you're right. i expect them to say "holy shit!!! its a plane crash!!!"
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What I am getting at is that I have not seen claims by the government that 90% of the aircraft was recovered, just news reports.
ok. then how do you know a plane was ever recovered then?
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While I know that the media and government are unreliable at times, I am wondering if any government officials actually made the claims repeated in the video.
ok. then how do you know a plane was ever recovered then? [ooops i just skipped too - must be contagious]
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I do not agree that an object impacting the ground makes a crater whose depth tells us the deepest penetration. Something as simple as shooting a bullet or shotshell into the dirt will show you that.
oh so you would end up with a hole 6 inches deep and a bullet at 100 inches with 94 inches of dirt covering it up?
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The aircraft is made from a variety of materials also; plastics, aluminum, steel, titanium and glass. All of these can react differently to the Earth when they impact.
if you have a bucket filled with sand and you push a brick down into it you will lose enough sand to accomodate the brick.
if you shove 100 tons of aluminum or 90 tons for argument sake into the ground you have to accomodate 90 tons in that area. this is reality. 2 objects cannot occupy the same space. it is physically impossible.
do you believe that 90% of a 757 is somehow magically hidden underneath a crater that is 10 feet deep?
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