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asaf-a
 
"You whole first post falls down to a very simple mistake."

What mistake?

asaf-a
 
"Israeli enemies did do suicide attacks many many time during the intifadas."

That is not in dispute.

asaf-a
 
"Now you say that no one expected Israel's enemies to attack like 9/11, but it wasn't expected from Al-Qaeda either."

I never said suicide attacks were exclusive to Al-Qaeda.

I said; "The 9/11 scenario was based on terrorist suicide attacks which the public, as
expected, thanks to the MEDIA, quickly associated with Al-Qaeda.

The public had no expectation or reason to readily believe that Iraq would
ever mount a major suicide attack on the U.S."


asaf-a
 
"And if it was expected from Al-Qaeda, then what's the point of faking an attack instead of just waiting for a real one?"

Now you are running around in circles.

9/11 was never "anticipated" by the public. That would have reduced it's level of shock 'n awe.

That is not to say that should a major terrorist event occur on U.S. soil , that Americans were not pre-programmed by the MEDIA as to who they would immediately believe was behind it.

Just look at the U.S. news coverage on 9/11 and you'll see how much Al-Qaeda and Osama Bin Laden were being credited as responsible. You'll see no mention of Israel's "other" enemies as likely candidates.

asaf-a
 
"Now i don't see the point in Israeli involvment. It's the US soil, US controlled area. If the US wants to do such a complicated task on it's own soil, why do you need Israel to help you? just do it by yourself."

You might be right.

It's possible that it was an all-American operation, but not very likely.

The operation required a level of expertise and capability that if performed solely by resident Americans, would have created too great a risk of disclosure.

Israel had the ability, the means, and the motive to cooperate in such a venture.

You are forgetting about a similar incident that JFK referred to, the USS Liberty.

I do suggest you investigate that.

asaf-a
 
"And if you were given the keys to select a group of people to handle a new independent investigation, what would you investigate that would be different from what the 9/11 commision did?"

I suggest you re-read my previous reply for starters.

asaf-a
 
"And if a new independent free Bush-free investigation would have taken place and came to the conclusion that the twin towers were not controlled demolision, and wtc 7 was brought down because of the damage from the collapsing north tower, and that the pentagon was hit by a plane, would you support these conclusions?"

You are creating a "what if" based on a hypothesis that contradicts current evidence.

You are also revealing how shallow your research has been into the 9/11 subject.

MM
Edited by Miragememories, May 15 2009, 02:39 PM.
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