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Miragememories
May 14 2009, 10:27 AM
asaf-a
 
"I asked what Israeli enemy was not attacked before 9/11. Iraq was already attacked in the first gulf war, and 9/11 led to the invasion to Afghanistan, not Iraq."
Miragememories
 
"Iraq never suffered a full invasion in the Gulf War."
asaf-a
 
"Did i say it did? I said it was attacked prior to 9/11."

I never said you did!

My point is that there's a big difference between a limited attack and a full invasion.

Miragememories
 
"As a valuable asset, Iraq was always the target. The problem was how to get Congressional support.

The only solution was clear, create a National Emergency. "
asaf-a
 
"The best idea to make People from country X to get mad on country Y is to fake a terror attack from people from countries A B C D?
Just blame it on Iraq, you get a national emergency and you have the initial excuse to do what you want."

The best idea, was to create a "shock 'n awe" National Emergency.

Israel can easily set their military sights on any hostile neighboring country that lobs a missile their way because the history of conflict there has been well established and in the absence of a peace agreement, the threat remains constant.

Not so in the United States which hadn't been attacked since WWII.

The 9/11 scenario was based on terrorist suicide attacks which the public, as expected, thanks to the MEDIA, quickly associated with Al-Qaeda.

The public had no expectation or reason to readily believe that Iraq would ever mount a major suicide attack on the U.S.

I recall absolutely no MEDIA consideration of Iraq on 9/11, or the days immediately following, that would suggest that Iraq might have played any part in the 9/11 attacks.

asaf-a
 
"If 9/11 would have worked in Israel's intrest, it would have been blamed directly on Iraq / Hamas / Hezbollah."
Miragememories
 
"Again, thanks to the MEDIA, the public knew that Al-Qaeda and it's leader were in Afghanistan. "
asaf-a
 
"Al-Qaeda was a joke in Iraq, the Baa'th regime in the head of Hussein is what ruled Iraq."

All the more reason the U.S. could not 'immediately' target Iraq.

But, Al-Qaeda, an organization, and not Iraq, a country, was the declared enemy behind 9/11.

Miragememories
 
"You are missing the point about preparing the Public. The public were ripe for a "shock 'n awe" terrorist event, and thanks to the MEDIA, Al-Qaeda and Osama Bin Laden were on everyone's lips. The public would only support a total War on Terror against them."
asaf-a
 
"So why not kill two birds with one stone and make this shocking terror attack but blame it on Iraq?"

I explained that.

asaf-a
 
"And even if you can't blame Iraq and you have to blame somebody else, and we assume that 9/11 works completly towards Israel intrest, then why blame Al-Qaeda instead of groups that are actully bothering Israel like Hamas/Hezbollah/Islamic Jihad?"

Because to the American Public, Hamas, Hezbollah, and Islamic Jihad were Israel's enemy.

Only Al-Qaeda had been MEDIA-promoted as a serious threat to the U.S.

A military confrontation with those organizations would directly embroil the U.S. in the Palestinian problem and seriously risk disrupting critically important relations with other arab countries like Saudi Arabia and Egypt.

Take a look at the Vietnam war. The U.S. never invaded North Vietnam because of their fear that it would escalate into a confrontation with China and the USSR.

Afghanistan and Iraq were home to unpopular regimes, considered to be low risk adversaries, and having neighbors unlikely to provide military assistance.


MM
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My point is that there's a big difference between a limited attack and a full invasion.

OK that is reasonable, but the only difference 9/11 made is that America now had excuse to attack AQI in Iraq, not the Iraqi regime because the Iraqi regime had nothing to do with 9/11.
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quickly associated with Al-Qaeda.

What is the Israeli interest in blaming Al-Qaeda. Al Qaeda isn't even a threat to Israel, you're just mixing shit up.
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I recall absolutely no MEDIA consideration of Iraq on 9/11, or the days immediately following, that would suggest that Iraq might have played any part in the 9/11 attacks.

And that just supports my claim that it is impossible to think before 9/11 that an attack by Afghanis Lebaneese Egyptians and Saudis would make it easier on America to attack Iraq. You have to be a fortune teller for this :\

Wer'e getting into circles, so we might as well stop now.

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Why do you need this? What are you trying to prove or disprove?

I just think that doubting the offical story is not enough to immediatly jump to conclusions.
I challenge you to use your evidence to reach a chain of event that will have less holes then the official version.
Why are you so upset about it? just tell me what happend and that's it.
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