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Xenomorph
Mar 30 2009, 02:49 PM
TDX
Mar 30 2009, 09:24 AM
AE911truth.org knows, but because they don't give a shit, there will be no english version......

That's a load of bull, members of ae911truth are interested in the video. I've done everything possible to connect Achimspok with ae911truth and was still having a dialogue going on with him, and all I've seen from you is complaining. It doesn't matter anyway anymore, someone else ae911truth affiliated is undertaking the project as of today, and has someone fluent in German to help them both with it . So you will finally get your wish.
I'm sorry for that and thank you for the heroic effort, I just wanted to express my (little distrust in regard to ae911truth.....you know what I mean)

to Bonez:

Please, I'm on your side , you just have to understand that your dream of 3minute lecture that operates with one handwaving number (and somehow proving inside job) isn't reality

I'll explain:I don't remember the exact energy released in the collapses, but I think that it was something in order of 25tons of TNT

charge big enough to break core column at the weld would have energy eq. of 4kg TNT, and since we know that the spires consisted of 800 and 700 row columns...we know that only the outer core columns were affected (.....) that gives us maximum reasonable nume¨ber of appx. 250 charges per tower (I actually think that it was far less,but now it doesn't matter)...= 1TON of TNT,

so normal collapse scenario = 25tones of TNT, maximum demolition scenario = 26 tones of TNT, in other words the demolished tower would have 4% more energy..which could be transferred into motion....that means that the maximum demoltion case collapse would be maybe 1 or 2 seconds quicker than the natural collapse (other effects accounted...)

now, we don't know the exact load distributions inside the towers, so we can not have accurate models of how fast would they naturally come down.....and at the same time we don't know how fast the building would collapse.........

Is it clear now? The collapse times are "under" our resolutions, you can't say that natural collapse would take 15 sec and that the towers collapse collapsed in 13 seconds-> controlled demo.....

nevertheless, the perimeter collapse took at least 18 seconds in each case (more likely 22+s) ...go and watch any video.......

Long story short- the total collapse time of the towers is irlevenat for us.....

There is a big shit- load of evidence in regard to the towers, you don't know about it ( watch achimspok.....) , it seems that you are defending the FF argument, because it was proposed in early days when we had nothing, no you don't have to worry about loosing this argument, we have better examples.....

As for WTC7 : yes, that's entirely diffrent story,the building fell at freefall speed for 2,25s - that strongly suggests CD

but again- the building collapse took 18 sec you have to admit that, no matter on which side of barricade you are

what really happened?

WTC7 was a subject to severe thermite/explosives weakening...hours and minutes before the collapse


than at cca 5:2xy failed column 80 and/or 81 and column 79 followed in quick succession

that is highly suspicious, then the collapse progressed to the east penthouse (.....) and caused the penthouse to freefall, at the same time the weakened building was a subject to a massive vibrations (energy from the penthouse+ thermite cuts at the core columns)...after a short time the building started to collapse..and after that the last intact connections failed (there were few intact connections...) and the building entered freefall, there was a slight decrease in acceleration after the building reached intact parts of the structure (above floor 13 and the thermite cuts)


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