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Boonedoggled	Mar 19 2009, 10:23 PM
Posts: 228 Group: Members Member #51 Joined: 01/15/08	Craig Wrong that is exactly what we describe. No it's not. Your depiction of 77's flight path has it traveling northeast. This is not what O'Brien describes, nor does it match what the controller says to O'Brien. "Traffic at your 11 o'clock, northbound." You can use runway 1/33 at Reagan as a reference since you're having a difficult time understanding which way north is. Every controller describes 77 approaching from the East. You cannot turn from an eastbound heading to a northbound heading without making a left-hand turn, unless you're going to add another loop to your loop. Quote: To suggest it WOULDN'T be visible during this first pass crossing directly in front of him on a perfectly clear day is ridiculous. I never suggested that. Quote: Sorry Boone but it is not logical to suggest he was not paying attention to air traffic directly in front of him because he was sight seeing national landmarks in a completely different direction from where he was allegedly headed. In fact if you are trying to suggest 9:35:37 is when he first saw it there isn't a reason on earth he would have missed it at 9:34:25 because the distance is about the same. Why would you expect him to be able to see the decoy jet 6.5 miles away when it is your contention that the decoy jet would have been invisible (to Chaconas) at 4.5 miles away? Not to mention the air traffic controllers at Reagan that were 1.5 miles away. Quote: Furthermore 9:35:37 is NOT "just passed the mall, westbound". It isn't anywhere near the mall or facing the mall AT ALL let alone a beautiful view of it or just passed it westbound. O'Brien never said that he was facing the mall, that is your interpretation. You still haven't explained how he would've had a beautiful view of the mall if it was underneath him.
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