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| Woody Box | Mar 18 2009, 03:35 PM |
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First I'd like to say that it was not my intention at all to push a certain flight path version or to refute another. I detected these statements just two days ago and published them immediately because they are of historical value and maybe help to find out not only the true flight path, but also the mechanisms to suppress it. I said already I haven't analyzed the statements properly yet. To classify these statements as "government controlled data", Craig, is way too easy and neglects the chance to take them as a further jigsaw piece to disprove the NTSB flight loop. These data were generated on 9/11 or 9/12, are hidden in a huge file of a FAA investigator (Douglas Gould), were obtained and published by a 9/11 truth group from Bloomington, Indiana, and if an obscure researcher from Cologne, Germany, would not have taken his time to browse through the hundreds of files published by this group, they would probably sleep there undetected until the Last Judgment. I can't imagine that a government of control freaks would rely on these guys from Bloomington and Cologne to place important disinformation. Honestly, I am pretty proud that I detected this stuff. This being said, I have taken a closer look at the statements, and the result is curious and telling: While nearly all of the controllers seem to agree that the target didn't cross the Potomac and performed the loop exclusively west of the river, we have several versions of the specific shape of the loop, and none of them matches the nice official circular loop: http://visibility911.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/loop_official_koeppel_comp.jpg Compare: She leaned in my direction and asked if I have a primary target on my scope just south of Dulles. I scanned the scope and observed the same target. I told her I see it, ad it appears headed eastbound. At that point I yelled for the supervisor and told him we had a target headed eastbound towards the White House. I continued to watch the target move eastbound and then turned southbound. The target went a few miles south of DCA and then made a sharp turn northbound, back in the direction of DCA. I was continuing to give position reports to the supervisor. Shortly after he turned northbound. I no longer observed the target on radar. (William T. Howell) We have two turns - one from eastbound to southbound and a sharp one from southbound to northbound. No smooth loop. FM was alerted to a fast moving primary target by QZ ((Danielle O'Brien)), who was working the target 2 miles east of AML. The target proceeded to a point 1 mile west of Chrystal City and turned southwest to a point 5 miles northeast of DAA. It then made a right turn, 2 miles north of DAA, and proceeded northbound. 3 miles later the target turned northeastbound and shortly thereafter radar contact was lost. (James E. Walsh) We have three turns - eastbound to southwestbound, southwestbound to northbound, northbound to northeastbound. No smooth loop. I observed a primary target approximately 8 miles east of Manassas Airport moving eastbound at a high rate of speed. I advised the OS (other controllers were doing the same). The aircraft proceeded to a point approximately 8 miles southwest of P-56, made a right 360 degree turn, proceeded northeastbound and dropped from radar approximately 6 miles south-southwest of P-56. (Robert J. Brickley Jr.) The "right 360 degree turn" matches the official version here, but the distances don't fit. The official loop started 4 miles southwest of P-56, and if the plane really dropped from radar 6 miles SSW of P-56, Brickley's 360 loop must have happened east of the official one and implies a crossing of the Potomac. Then, the aircraft (target) turned south to parallel the North final to DCA as though it was entering a west downwind for Rw((Runway)) 1 at DCA. For a few miles, it continued south. Then, it made a right turn for a moment, it appeared as though it were turning towards a DCA departure being handed off to our High Sector. At that moment, I thought it may try to hit the dept. or perhaps it may be a U.S. fighter checking the area (since the observed target movement was still very fast). However, the target continued the right turn back to a NE heading - again, aimed, in my opinion, at P-56. (Robert Devery) Devery's handwriting is somewhat difficult to read, but apparently he saw the plane much closer to DCA (because the mentioning of Runway 1) than the official loop. And apparently he saw the plane flying straight south for a few miles. No smooth loop, again. I observed a primary target approximately 7 miles east of AML, heading eastbound, when the target was about 1 mile west of DCA it made a right turn heading southwestbound. When it was about 3 miles north of DAA it made a sharp turn northbound, when it was about 10 miles east of AML it made a sharp turn eastbound, the target then dropped off radar about 3 miles west of DCA. Equipment configuration was unknown to me. (Robert Utley) We have three turns - a very sharp one from eastbound to southwestbound, one from southwestbound to northbound, and a third from northbound to eastbound. No smooth loop The last position information - 10 miles east of Dulles (=10 miles west of the Pentagon) also deviates remarkably from the official version. Summary: Five controllers, five different loops, and not one of them matches the official loop. Superimposing the six loops on one diagram would look like a tangled clew. Bad memory is not an excuse for this information mess. The controllers made their statements one day after the attacks, and their figures are pretty precise. What happened? Interestingly, (nearly) all of these statements place the loop west of its actual position (if we believe Steve Chaconas). It really looks like the guys were told to "move" the loop they've seen westward. Why? The only reason I can imagine is that the perps feared that potential witnesses for the decoy jet east of the Potomac would be surprised that the white plane they observed was American 77. But that's not conclusive enough. Edited by Woody Box, Mar 18 2009, 03:42 PM.
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