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Caustic Logic

Good enough topic starter mr. Box.

Okay so lemme see if I get the gist of this:
Controllers NOT TOLD to look for primary targets
so they don't do what they have to do to look, which I think means switching radar modes.
Dulles sees it anyway at 9:32.
Altitude shows it should appear on radar at 9:32 if they were looking
So why didn't they see it before?
They were looking - at 9:34 we hear they've been looking for primary returns sometime before that.

So the lie is the 9/11 Comm's "no evidence that FAA headquarters issued a directive to surrounding centers to search for primary radar targets" and "The Washington Center's controllers [...] were not told to look for primary radar returns." vs. NORAD's tape of "what we've done at the surrounding centers here is tell them all to look out for limited codes or primary targets or whatever the case may be."

So it's 9/11 Comm vs. NORAD tape. But the thread is titled NTSB vs. NORAD.
But So far so good. I'll read Boone's post next - I think he's already done more research than I was gonna so tonight.

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And the so-called evidence that Flight 77 was flying back to Washington is nihilated.

Flight 77 didn't hit the Pentagon, Objections, anyone?


No, that's your opinion. How could I object to that? You'll need to explain better how this contradiction proves that or strengthens it in any way. Is it that they had been looking and didn't see it? How long were they looking? Etc? I'll have to look closer at this later.

Thanks for helping me catch an earlier error - I had radar pick-up at 9:25, but I double-checked and 9:32 is what the sources say.

And by my data, the Flight Path Study shows it about 7-8,000 feet above sea level at 9:32, which lines up with it being at 7,000 before the loop it started at 9:34.

BTW Terror Timeline, page 405 cites at 9:21 "FAA Command Center Advises Dulles Airport Control to be on Lookout" - according to the 9/11 Commission Dulles is told to "look for primary targets." At least one source has 77 sighted a few minutes later... maybe that 9:25 was based on something. I'll have to dig that up.

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