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| Arcterus | Jan 27 2009, 06:48 PM |
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I'd be glad to when I get the chance. But I've seen many documentaries advocating the idea that no plane hit the Pentagon and EVERY SINGLE ONE has had a complete lack in compelling evidence.
What generalization? Saying that they only used certain portions of their witness testimony? It's entirely true. Everything they said in their witness testimony that conflicted with their conclusion was completely disregarded. "I didn't see two planes" from all 4 witnesses came to the conclusion, in a movie that exclusively used these witnesses, as "There were two planes". I don't see how anyone can disagree with me that this movie was terribly one-sided. There's a term for this type of documentary tactic, actually. It's called "special pleading".
So only evidence from truthers is valid? So these four witnesses beat every other witness, despite the other witness testimony being shortly after (as opposed to five years later) and perfectly matching the physical evidence (which isn't "government supplied", it's right there, unless you think the pictures were fake too...), solely under the basis that these witnesses were interviewed for 9/11 Truth? I support accurate evidence, sir, not whatever crap gets flown my direction. Also, the witnesses don't even perfectly add up in their flight path. ![]() And did your supposedly non-biased directors note this quote from their witness Detective Lagasse in a separate interview? “You ask were the debris is…well it was in the building…I saw it everywhere… Have you ever seen photos of other aircraft accident photos…? There usually isn’t huge amounts of debris left… how much did you see from the WTC?"
Oh really? 1. “I witnessed the jet hit the Pentagon on September 11… [It] slammed into the west wall of the Pentagon.” 2. “I saw this plane right outside my window… Then it shot straight across from where we are and flew right into the Pentagon… It was just this huge fireball that crashed into the wall (of the Pentagon).” 3. “It was coming down head first,” he said. “And when the impact hit, the cars and everything were just shaking.” 4. “I looked at the woman sitting in the car next to me. She had this startled look on her face. We were all thinking the same thing…” 5. “And when the impact hit, the cars and everything were just shaking.” 6. “[The plane] impacted the side of the building.” 7. “ saw the plane hit the Pentagon.” 8. “Mark Bright, actually saw the plane hit the building.” 9. “This aircraft then made a sharp turn and flew towards the Pentagon and seconds later crashed into it.” 10. “I saw the plane hit and the fireball and explosion at the Pentagon.” 11. “He realized he had a front-row seat to history, as the plane plowed into the Pentagon.” 12. “I thought, ‘There’s no landing strip on that side of the subway tracks,’ “Before he could process that thought, he saw “a huge mushroom cloud.” 13. “He was in front of one of the blast-resistant windows [inside of the Pentagon as he saw the plane coming in to crash]…” 14. “[The plane] nearly shearing the roof off the trailer before slamming into the E ring.” 15. “[he saw the plane] strike the building. ‘It seemed to be almost coming in slow motion,’ he said later Tuesday. ‘I didn't actually feel it hit, but I saw it and then we all started running.’” 16. “This plane was going to slam into the Pentagon. I steeled myself for the explosion.” 17. “The airliner crashed into the Pentagon and exploded.” 18. “He saw the plane approach and slam into the west side of the structure… it crashed into the building and burst into flames.” 19. “The plane approached the Pentagon… slicing into the building, said Lee Evey.” 20. “The plane hit the building.” 21. “We thought it had been waved off and then it hit the building.” 22. “When [the plane] made impact with the Pentagon initially he saw smoke, then flames.” 23. “It seemed like [the plane] made impact just before the wedge.” 24. “He impacted low on the Westside of the building to the right of the helo[copter], tower.” 25. “What instantly followed was a large yellow fireball accompanied by an extremely bass sounding, deep thunderous boom.” 26. “This plane is going down into the Pentagon!” 27. “By the time I looked up, the plane was moving so fast all I saw was an explosion.” 28. “The crash was exceptionally loud… It shook the building and knocked people down who were closer to the point of impact.” 29. “I [saw] an airplane descend into the side of the Pentagon.” 30. “[He saw the plane] strike a western wall of the huge five-sided building that is the headquarters of the nation’s military.” 31. “He watched as the plane plowed into the Pentagon.” 32. “[We] watched it crash.” 33. “I turned my head to the right and saw it crash into the Pentagon about 200 yards away.” 34. “‘There was a big noise when it hit the building,’ said Oscar Martinez, who witnessed the attack.” 35. “My first thought was just ‘No, no, no, no,’ because it was obvious the plane was not heading to nearby Reagan National Airport. It was going to crash.” 36. “I saw it crash into the building…My only memories really were that it looked like a plane coming in for a landing.” 37. “I saw…this big silver planerun into the side of the Pentagon.” 38. “The plane, with red and blue markings, hurtled by and within moments exploded in a ground-shaking ‘whoomp’ as it appeared to hit the side of the Pentagon.” 39. “I realized where I was, and that it was going to hit the pentagon. There was a burst of orange flame that shot out that I could see through the highway overpass.” 40. “[He] saw a plane crash into the building.” 41. “I saw it crash.” 42. “it was an American airlines plane that came in and hit the Pentagon.” 43. “I knew it was about to crash.” 44. “The impact created a huge yellow and orange fireball, he added.” 45. “I am sorry to rain on your parade, but I saw the plane hit the building. It did not hit the ground first… It did not hit the roof first… and yes, it did impact the Pentagon… There was none of this hitting-the-ground first crap I keep hearing…” 46. “The Pentagon is about a mile and half distant in the center of the tableau. I was looking directly at it when the aircraft struck.” 47. “I saw the airplane” a split second before it struck.” 48. “I looked back at the road, and when I turned to look again, I felt and heard a terrible explosion. I looked back and saw flames shooting up and smoke starting to climb into the sky.” 49. “[He saw the plane] seconds before it exploded into the building.” 50. “[the plane was] aimed like a dart straight into it.” 51. “The plane hit the Pentagon.” 52. “I saw it hit the building.” 53. “The plane slammed into the west wall of the Pentagon 100 yards away. My first thought was he’s not going to make it across the river to National Airport. But whoever was flying the plane made no attempt to change direction.” 54. “[he saw it] fly 50 feet over I-395 in a straight line, striking the side of the Pentagon.” 55. “[it] plowed into the south side of the Pentagon.” 56. “And then he just slammed into the Pentagon.” 57. “I saw an American airlines jet come overhead and slam into the Pentagon.” 58. “[the plane flew] fast and low over his car and struck the Pentagon.” 59. “It added power on its way in…The nose hit, and the wings came forward and it went up in a fireball.” 60. “A few minutes later, Vaughn witnessed the craft’s impact.” 61. “Wallace hadn’t gotten far when the plane hit. ‘I hadn’t even reached the back of the van when I felt the fireball. It slammed into the building just a couple hundred feet from him… Wallace switched on the truck’s radio. We have had a commercial carrier crash into the west side of the Pentagon at the heliport, Washington Boulevard side.” 62. “They watched the jet approach and slam into the Pentagon.” 63. “It hit the Pentagon.” 64. “[I saw the plane] crash right into the Pentagon.” 65. “The only intelligent thought that came into my head was, ‘Oh my God, they hit the pentagon.’” 66. “They turned and ran, and at the point of impact were partially shielded by their fire truck from the flying debris of shrapnel and flames.” 67. “It slammed right into the building.” 68. “[I saw the plane] keep coming and then slam into the front of the building.” 69. “Looks like that aircraft crashed into the Pentagon, sir.” 70. “[The plane] came from behind us and banked to the right and went into the Pentagon.” 71. “The jet came in from the south and banked left as it entered the building.” 72. “Engine 101… saw the airliner plow into the northwest side of the Pentagon. The radio crackled, ‘Engine 101—emergency traffic, a plane has gone down into the Pentagon.’” 73. “I just watched it hit the building. It exploded… I could actually hear the metal going through the building.” 74. “I saw it fly right into the Pentagon… ‘It just was amazingly precise… It completely disappeared into the Pentagon.” 75. The plane seemed to be floating as if it were a paper glider and I watched in horror as it gently rocked and slowly glided straight into the Pentagon. [Note: this eyewitness claims he watched everything in ‘slow motion’ due to ‘adrenaline’].At the point where the fuselage hit the wall, it seemed to simply melt into the building. I saw a smoke ring surround the fuselage as it made contact with the wall. It appeared as a smoke ring that encircled the fuselage at the point of contact and it seemed to be several feet thick. I later realized that it was probably the rubble of churning bits of the plane and concrete. The churning smoke ring started at the top of the fuselage and simultaneously wrapped down both the right and left sides of the fuselage to the underside, where the coiling rings crossed over each other and then coiled back up to the top. Then it started over again—only this next time, I also saw fire, glowing fire in the smoke ring. At that point, the wings disappeared into the Pentagon……I saw an explosion and watched the tail of the plane slip into the building” 76. “The next thing we saw, the airplane crashed into the Pentagon…[It] sucked in the airplane.” 77. “My people who did see it enter the building described it as entering the building and then there being flames coming out immediately afterwards.” 78. “[It went] inside the side of the Pentagon.Obviously, it was going in the Pentagon purposefully.I told my husband ‘he’s going into the Pentagon.’We heard the direct hit—huge crash, saw this fireball, flame and smoke.”Reporter: ‘so you actually saw the plane impact the side of the building?’[Isabel:] “Yes I did.” 79. “I cannot understand how that plane hit where it did giving the direction the aircraft was taking at the time. As most know, the Pentagon lies at the bottom of two hills from the west with the east side being next to the river at 14th street bridge… The wings came off as if it went through an arch way leaving a hole in the side of the building it seems a little larger than the wide body of the aircraft. The entry point was so clean that the roof (shown in news photo) fell in on the wreckage.” 80. “I saw it hit the pentagon. It happened so fast… it was in the air one moment and in the building the next…” 81. “It just plowed right into the side of the Pentagon. The nose penetrated into the portico. And then it sort of disappeared, and there was fire and smoke everywhere… It was very sort of surreal.” 82. “The plane vanished, absorbed by the building, and there was a slight pause. Then a huge fireball rose into the sky.” 83. “The plane came in hard and level and was flown full throttle into the building, dead center mass, Maj. Leibner said. “The plane completely entered the building… The plane went into the building like a toy into a birthday cake…The aircraft went in between the second and third floors.” 84. “I think I actually heard it accelerate—and then it disappeared and a cloud of smoke started billowing.” 85. “It hit the pentagon. It happened so fast… it was in the air one moment and in the building the next… I still have a hard time believing it, but every time I look out the window, it seems to be more real than it did the time before.” 86. “A groundskeeper who watched in horror as the plane crashed into the Pentagon… The jet accelerated in the final few hundred yards before it tore into the building.” 87. “We watched it go in. It struck the Pentagon, and there was no indication whatever that it was doing anything other than performing a direct attack on that building.” 88. “The tail was barely visible when I saw the flash and subsequent fireball rise approximately 200 feet above the Pentagon… the aircraft had been flown directly into the Pentagon without hitting the ground first or skipping into the building.” 89. “The hijacked jet slammed into the Pentagon at a ferocious speed. But the Pentagon’s wall held up like a champ. It barely budged as the nose of the plane curled upwards and crumpled before exploding into a massive fireball. The people who built that wall should be proud. Its ability to withstand the initial impact of the jet probably saved thousands of lives.” 90. “He also recalled seeing the tail of the plane as it entered the building, followed by a fireball that erupted upon the plane’s impact.” 91. “The nose crashed into the southwest wall of the Pentagon. Still gripping the wheel, I could feel both the car and my heart jolt at the moment of impact. An instant inferno blazed about 125 yards from me. The plane, the wall and the victims disappeared under coal-black smoke, three-storey tall flames and intense heat.” 92. “[It] headed for the Pentagon “at a frightening rate… just slicing into that building…”Then this thing just became part of the Pentagon… he saw the Pentagon “envelope” the plane.” 93. “It was pretty horrible… he said of the noiseless images he carries inside him, of the jet vanishing in a cloud of smoke and dust… the memory starts to come back when he hears a particularly low-flying airliner heading into nearby Reagan National Airport.” 94. “[It] crashed into the west side of the building…It happened so fast. One second I saw the plane and next it was gone.” Recalling those moments again, Ramey said it appeared the building sucked the plane up inside.” 95. “It was headed straight for the building. It made no sense… A huge jet. Then it was gone. A massive hole in the side of the Pentagon gushed smoke. ‘Buildings don't eat planes. That plane, it just vanished. There should have been parts on the ground. It should have rained parts on my car. The airplane didn't crash. Where are the parts?’ That's the conversation I had with myself on the way to work… There was a plane. It didn't go over the building. It went into the building.” 96. “[it veered] sharply and then slice into the Pentagon… [he] watched the plane slide silently into the Pentagon ‘like a car entering a garage’ [note: witness was far from Pentagon causing a delay before the explosion could be heard].” 97. “I glanced up just at the point where the plane was going into the building…I saw an indentation in the building and then it was just blown-up up—red, everything red.” 98. “It was an American airlines jet. And I watched it go into the building. I saw the big ‘AA’ on the side…” 99. “[The plane went] into the Pentagon.” 100. “It ploughed right into the Pentagon.”
Supposedly. I don't agree with a certain aspect that most truthers do, therefore I'm immediately suspect of being COINTELPRO? For God's sake, if you're going to accuse someone of being an agent, at least prove me wrong instead of going "There are no such thing as 100 impact statements" only for me to list out exactly 100 eyewitness statements noting - you know - IMPACT! Sorry, I know they weren't interviewed by The Pentacon so they're probably all government agents or have been deceived, but still, it's weird how consistent it is with the physical evidence, isn't it? |
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