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Arlingtonian Posts: 444 Group: Members Member #24 Joined: 01/14/08	http://www.soniccomic.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=640 arcterus at a different forum 9/11 Hoaxes: No Plane hit The Pentagon by Arcterus on Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:14 pm 9/11 Hoaxes No plane hit The Pentagon By Kamen Fattorusso <body of presentation snipped> (check link above for it) Conclusion Given the vast quantity of claims surrounding the “no-plane-at-The-Pentagon” theory, I'll undoubtedly find myself updating this article to counter yet more hoax claims that support an even worse hoax theory. However, I'd like to think I've done a pretty sufficient job in taking most of the major points thrown around, some minor ones too, and countering them to show that absolutely none of the claims or evidnece used to support the no-plane theory are plausible. The physical evidence suggests a Boeing 757 struck the building. The witness testimony suggests a Boeing 757 struck the building. To top it all off, basic common sense suggests a Boeing 757 struck The Pentagon. Theories that no plane struck the Pentagon have no basis in fact or logic, and deviate from real witnesses and real facts. I hope any who have fallen for this hoax theory will take this information into account, form more plausible conclusions, and will avoid falling for any other hoaxes pertaining to 9/11 in the future, as well as analyze their current theories and determine whether or not they're plausible. I'd like to give thanks towards Jim Hoffman for his outstanding research in analyzing the Truth Movement and debunking this hoax claim, which awoke me from the belief that no plane struck The Pentagon, and also towards Victoria Ashley, who's article, “Discrediting By Association: Undermining the Case for Patriots Who Question 9/11”, inspired me to start 9/11 Hoaxes. while i commend your efforts and your pursuit of truth by scratching beneath the surface arcterus, i have to say dont hang up your hat on the pentagon, cuz you're research/work is not done YET. im not 100% sure where you've been for over a year since you wrote the above (though i have an idea cuz i found out while searching for your 9/11 work), but during your absence some people (myself included) took it upon themselves to find the truth about the pentagon incident . and what we uncovered in arlington should to a very high degree of certainty separate the "hoaxes" from the truth, once and for all about the pentagon event. speaking of hoaxes, i think that word or characterization is too mild for some of these "theories" that have floated about 9/11 over the past 5 years, especially about the pentagon event. the word i would use to describe these "theories" instead is DISINFO. yes - some of the "facts" planted out there are straight up disinformation and put there intentionally to impede or even destroy 9/11 truth. personally, i see jim hoffman and victoria ashley as part of that disinfo campaign. ask yourself, where is jim hoffman now? where has he been for the past 3 years or so? what does he have to say about all the new evidence that's been uncovered? if he is a serious researcher and sincerely in pursuit of 9/11 truth, then its his responsibility to be familiar with and keep abreadt of all of the latest research. it would therefore be his responsibility to retract his flawed and incorrect assertions of yester-year about the "no plane at the pentagon". and has his significant other, ms.victoria ashely ever interviewed any of the witnesses to the plane that flew over the edge of the Arlington National Cemetery that terrible tragic day? has she done anything other than opine recklessly and attack dedicated honest researchers (like CIT) on sites like 911blogger? of course not. but then - what qualifies either of them (hoff/ash) to have the final say about what is and isnt true about the arlington part of the 9/11 op? and what of their (hoff/ash) establishment-connected backgrounds? before accepting their "research" did u bother to see what you could find out about them and their possible motivations? i mean who the hell are they anyway? what makes them any different from von kleist? you understand that in order to successfully disinform, one must first use some grains of truth to establish credibility for themselves within any movement, dont you arcterus? if you are really interested and/or devoted to finding the truth, then dont stop where you have - keep diggin man. shit's alot deeper than you thought it was, especially with what happened at the pentagon on 9/11. so i recommend that you have a look around here at LCF or at these places: http://www.thepentacon.com http://z3.invisionfree.com/CIT http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index.php?showforum=5 -and please update what you know about the pentagon and 9/11, before coming to any FINAL conclusions on the matter. once the truth about the physical (pentagon) event becomes clear to you (via witness interviews), you will be better equipped/informed to judge who is spreading disinfo, and who is trying their best to reveal the truth - at least where the pentagon and 9/11 are concerned . so welcome (back) to the forum and to the pursuit of 911 truth, and good luck.


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