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jim76	Dec 19 2008, 10:41 PM
Posts: 303 Group: BANNED! Member #172 Joined: 01/21/08	Quote: 'al qaeda' literally translated is 'the base'. in some arabic nations 'al qaeda' actually is slang for the toilet. The Guardian Quote: Bin Laden was, though, a product of a monumental miscalculation by western security agencies. Throughout the 80s he was armed by the CIA and funded by the Saudis to wage jihad against the Russian occupation of Afghanistan. Al-Qaida, literally "the database", was originally the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians. I find it interesting that Robin Cook then immediately refers to al Qaeda as a terrorist organization and says: "Inexplicably, and with disastrous consequences, it never appears to have occurred to Washington that once Russia was out of the way, Bin Laden's organisation would turn its attention to the west." So which one is it? Can we trust Cook? If he's so trustworthy that we can take one unsubstantiated claim at face value, how can we ignore everything else he has to say about al-Qaeda? Quote: frequently? how frequently jim? frequently like after bush stole the election frequently? in the lead up to 9/11 frequently? why not during or after the embassy bombings? State Department refers to al-Qaeda - 1996 http://www.usembassy-israel.org.il/publish/press/state/archive/august/sd4_8-15.htm Reference to OBL establishing al-Qaeda - 1998 http://www.globalissues.org/article/474/bin-laden-comes-home-to-roost Reference to OBL and al-Qaeda in the legal complaint for the embassy bombings - 1998 http://cryptome.quintessenz.at/mirror/usa-v-qaeda.htm Clinton mentions al-Qaeda in an executive order - 1998 http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=1998_register&docid=fr25au98-133.pdf I found these in a matter of 5 minutes. I'm sure if you did a bit more research, you could find many more examples. Quote: why wasn't bin laden mentioning 'al qaeda' then if that was the name of his organization? I don't know. We don't know if he used that name before 9/11 or not. He claims he did. We just know that in the few interviews he did in the late 90s, he didn't. I also don't doubt that the media's decision to latch onto "al-Qaeda" as a label for the organization was a driving force in the popularization of the name. Bin Laden and other members of al-Qaeda are not immune to the influence of the media. Quote: my god jim the evidence has smacked you in the face. you yourself admitted osama bin laden never called his [alleged to exist] organization al qaeda before 9/11. do you deny the cia funded him to help the afghan insurgency against the soviets? So your conclusive evidence that OBL is a CIA asset is that he was once funded over a decade before 9/11 (which is not necessarily a credible fact), and the name al-Qaeda was not popularized until after the attack? Are you serious?
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