| Predictions for the Future; Pro and con | |
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| Topic Started: Nov 4 2008, 06:40 AM (2,537 Views) | |
| Deleted User | Nov 4 2008, 06:40 AM Post #1 |
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I am assuming the ascension of a strong, unstoppable Leftist government today. For future references, shall we on both sides make a record of what we expect to see in the next four years? It might be interesting going forward. If you voted for Obama, tell us the expectations and hopes you have, in specifics. If you voted otherwise, tell us how you see the future Let's allow everyone their say...unrefuted, undebated. From time to time we can bump this and see who our "Cassandras" really were. |
 
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| Deleted User | Nov 4 2008, 07:22 AM Post #2 |
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I'll start. I expect Obama to usher in the ideological government of "The 88." Their national moment of power has come. Everything you saw in the Hoax moves to D.C. and dominates completely. In his appointment of judges who should weigh the status of the "powerless" (like Mangum) , his implementation of the Fairness doctrine (stifling ability to voice dissent...think Gag Order) , and broad application of the criminalization of "Hate Speech" (deeming sites like ours that defended the innocent kids "racist" simply for non-beleiving a Black woman) )...the burden to defend future victims like Collin, Reade. and Dave...falls solely on the shoulders of our Hooligan friends who supported Obama. If you truly care about these issues, care about the abuses we saw in the case...you will have to take on the burden of moderating your own people that you put in power. You will have to LEAD. Rush, Hannity etc..will be stopped in stronger ways. There will be something found to bring them up on charges. We have seen the intolerance of the mindset of Academia. That mindset now assumes TOTAL power. Why should we expect anything less on the national scene than the intolerance of diverse thought that rules very campus? It is just not possible for "thinkers" like Houston Baker, Al McSurely. Dick Brodhead, and their like to have it any other way. There will be charges brought against Republicans to dwindle the numbers further...think Mr. Elmostafa...it will all seem quite natural. There will be disruptive strikes. As secret votes are outlawed in unions...our country will endure strikes like those in France..shutting down and disrupting our lives until union demands, no matter the economic cost, are given sway. This is "fairness" when "fairness" is interpreted by those seeking retribution. "Fairness" will be the new buzzword for retribution and revenge. Again, go and read the Left wing blogs...soak up the fury...these are the folks who will be defining "fair." Bush will be indicted. Isreal will be attacked. There will be a terrorist attack (I agree with Biden) to test Obama's mettle. He will capitulate. We will see if ideological terrorist bullies sweeten to that approach. Our taxes and our cost of living will rise dramatically. But, as I said, most of us will be powerless to offer dissent. With free reign to voter fraud as in Acorn..."overseen" by Leftist courts...our ability to effect change is essentially gone. All will depend on how much our left wing Hooligans really cared about the issues we saw in this case as they see those issues made dominant and powerful. It will fall to THEM to speak up and lead and call out their own. Those are my predictions. I truly pray I am wrong. I hope to come on this Board (if it still exists)...apologize, eat crow, and celebrate the wisdom of our Hooligan friends who saw the greatness in Obama and the new strength he would bring to our country and the World...when I was too blind to do the same. |
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| Deleted User | Nov 4 2008, 08:55 AM Post #3 |
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I predict a continued assault on religion, particularly with the right to speak out on moral issues being deemed hate speech. I believe there will be a movement to include Sharia law into the legal fabric of our nation as a means to appease the growing strength of radical Islamists who currently reside among us. Obama will attempt in the first 100 days to implement some of his most far-reaching changes at the height of his popularity. This could come in the form of a very quick passage of national health care, a reparations bill, and the fairness doctrine. He will fill the federal judiciary at all levels with as many leftist as he can so that he can both legislate in congress and from the bench. I am not so certain that the American people will revolt until these changes begin to erode the quality of life among the upper middle class and the economy is nearing a depression. Obama will also seek ways to dramatically change the gun laws, perhaps even the confication of guns. All of this coupled with the creation of a domestic military force and you have a dictator in the making. |
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| Bill Anderson | Nov 4 2008, 09:45 AM Post #4 |
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I posted this today on Lew Rockwell's blog: http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/023792.html 
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| LTC8K6 | Nov 4 2008, 09:48 AM Post #5 |
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Our revels now are ended... |
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| Deleted User | Nov 4 2008, 09:53 AM Post #6 |
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Bill's article November 04, 2008 Preparing for the Hard-Left State Posted by Bill Anderson at November 4, 2008 06:27 AM I believe that it is inevitable that the voters today will give the United States a hard-left government, and our lives will change for it. We libertarians have been very critical of the Bush administration -- and rightly so -- for its wars, its economic interventions, and its crushing of civil liberties. Yet, I believe that what is to come will make the Bushies look like clones of Ron Paul. The Democratic Party of today is not the Democratic Party which gave us Jimmy Carter or even Bill Clinton. It is the party of people like George Soros and Billy Ayers and ACORN, and do not think for a second that these people do not realize that there will be no barriers at all to implementing the hard-left state. The political correctness that people think was only confined to the modern university campus will have no restraints at all, especially after Obama is able to fill numerous vacancies on the U.S. Supreme Court. In the past, we have been able to write critical material of both Republican and Democratic politicians and policies and be able to do it without paying a real price. That day will be past. Not only will the airwaves be "re-regulated" to make sure that no critical word of the Regime will be uttered, but the Internet itself is going to fall under the kind of political control that we now see in communist countries. What has been the remnant of the rule of law will be officially dead, and legal outcomes now will be determined solely by the political "merits" of the case. Don't forget that Obama already has called for bankrupting the coal industry, and I believe that the energy, transportation, and medical industries will decimated in the way that the government went after the tobacco companies. Wal-Mart will be smashed beyond recognition. Furthermore, soon into his presidency, Obama will sign legislation that basically gives labor unions the power to organize any company or entity at will, and he also will sign legislation removing any "right-to-work" legislation from the states. We will be forced to join labor unions if we want to be able to work at all. We can talk about gold as money all we like, but the Federal Reserve System will be empowered, not weakened, by this new government, and there will be no restraints at all on the Fed as it destroys the dollar. When prices go up, the government will blame businesses, levy price controls, and then put business owners in prison for "price gouging." Our children will be conscripted into "national service" and anyone who resists will go to prison. There will be no exceptions, and that includes people from religious groups like the Amish. Our taxes will be raised to ruinous levels, and when businesses are bankrupted, the government will blame businesses and call for even more socialization. Don't look for churches and non-profit groups to be exempted. This is a government that will not tolerate dissension and any church that does not toe the line on environmental and sexual dogma from the state will lose its tax exemption and ultimately be shut down. On the environmental side, one of the first things Obama will do is to sign an executive order claiming carbon dioxide is a "dangerous pollutant," which will mean massive cost increases being dumped upon us. Furthermore, we will be forced to purchase "carbon credits" if we wish to travel anywhere, and look for the prisons to be filled with thousands of people who have traveled "without permission" from the state. The criminal penalties for violation will be severe, and I predict that many readers of these words will end up being incarcerated. I do blame the "conservatives" and especially the "national greatness" conservatives" for leading us down this path, just as Herbert Hoover led the country to Roosevelt. Their wars and economic interventions not only weakened our economy and the very fiber of this country, but they also still claimed the mantle of "low taxers" and "small government." Because this non-existent state of affairs failed -- as it always will -- the Left has been able to claim that free markets "don't work" and that their "vision" of economic planning must be implemented. When I was in college, my professors held places like Cuba, North Vietnam (before the Vietnam War ended during my senior year), China, and North Korea to be the real "workers paradises." People even more radical than they now will be in power, and they will make sure that they never will lose power again. My wife and I adopted three children from Third World countries, and all of them left behind lives of poverty and certain disease and early death. Yet, as I watch the United States implode forever into a virulent, hard-left state, I cannot help but wonder if we did the right thing. I don't know, but I do know that the freedom and liberty that I have cherished will be gone forever. We are like the Cambodians who hopefully greeted the conquering Khmer Rouge with flowers and cheers. The same day those soldiers came into the capital city, they began their campaign or murder, terror, and forcing people into the countryside, where a quarter of the population died. We hope that the new people in power will be gentle, but I believe that the groups that now control the Democratic Party are so anti-liberty (except for promoting unlimited abortions) that they are just one step above the Khmer Rouge. To re-phrase Sir Edward Grey, the lamps are going out all over the USA, and they will not be lit in my lifetime or the lifetime of anyone else. |
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| brittany | Nov 4 2008, 09:55 AM Post #7 |
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Great last line, Bill. |
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| abb | Nov 4 2008, 10:00 AM Post #8 |
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Bill Anderson, who of all my fellow Blog Hooligans I consider my philosophical/political soulmate, must part ways on this one. The USA doesn't end today regardless of who wins. We will prevail. |
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| Soobs | Nov 4 2008, 10:04 AM Post #9 |
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I thought it was very well written, as is everything that Bill writes. I do think it's fatalistic, but I've been accused of being TOO optimistic, so.... |
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| Bill Anderson | Nov 4 2008, 10:09 AM Post #10 |
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Look, I hope with everything I have that I am wrong. But, there really is little difference between the philosophies of the people who will take power and the philosophies of the Nazis of the 1930s. Yes, we don't see the same racial rhetoric, but their economic views are almost the same, and they carry collectivist viewpoints on about everything. But, I sincerely hope that Abb and the others are right. This is one time when I will rejoice if I am wrong.
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| LTC8K6 | Nov 4 2008, 10:18 AM Post #11 |
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The USA as we knew it may indeed end today. The USA will not end, though today could be the start down that road. I certainly hope not. Maybe we should sing that REM song? I feel fine... |
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| Deleted User | Nov 4 2008, 10:18 AM Post #12 |
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Bill, a great piece albeit a very depressing one. It begs the question where are the Democrats of Carter, Clinton, etc? Why are they supporting Obama? Are we to assume that Democrats all over this nation today, average people who have been voting for years are just oblivious to the threats that Obama poses for this nation? Have the Reagan Democrats become so disillusioned by the Bush Adm. that they will go back to the Democrat Party? It is truly hard to believe. I remember references to Eleanor Roosevelt when I was growing up as being a communist. Did this party always have these factions laying in wait for their "moment"? |
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| abb | Nov 4 2008, 10:21 AM Post #13 |
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Without question. Marxism is a siren song and always has been. "Something for nothing." One of the greatest sales tools known to mankind. |
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| Deleted User | Nov 4 2008, 10:23 AM Post #14 |
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Did Hitler have the power of the media in his pocket? Was there a German commentator who got a tingle up his leg at the sound of Adolph's voice? There is some scarey adulation going on in this country right now. |
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| Quasimodo | Nov 4 2008, 10:28 AM Post #15 |
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Yet shall I spend a little of that joy which you now do promise shall be paid, and on credit assume its use, and with this borrowed gladness do bedeck myself, changing my inner coat of despair to its outer side, so that the blissful weave be exposed, and all men, on greeting me, shall assume I am the bearer of good news, or that there has come to me some happy measure; to which I shall give answer, that our king is great, and the day is bright, and with this every man should be content. |
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