MikeZPU

Sep 16 2015, 08:56 PM

kbp

Sep 16 2015, 08:53 PM

cks

Sep 16 2015, 08:47 PM

Well, I am checking out for the evening.....walking my poodle at 5 am means an early alarm.......do not see much else of interest will happen this evening. Will be interesting to read the post partum reports tomorrow.

Thanks!

Ditto from me -- thanks cks!

cks

Sep 16 2015, 08:24 PM

Rubio is laying out a three point plan regarding immigration - makes a lot of sense.

Quote:

 

http://www.ontheissues.org/2014_Hopefuls.htm
Face the Nation 2014 interview: 2016 presidential hopefuls , Sep 7, 2014

Modernize immigration to win global competition for talent
Q: The president said he was planning on taking executive action on immigration reform because the Congress wouldn't do anything.

RUBIO: I think that we have to deal with immigration. We have a broken enforcement system on immigration. We have a legal immigration system that's outdated and needs to be modernized so we can win the global competition for talent. We have millions of people living in this country illegally, many of whom have been here for a decade or longer. We need to find a reasonable but responsible way of incorporating them into American life. Last year we tried to do that through a one-size-fits-all comprehensive approach; it didn't work. We don't have the support for that. The only way we're going to be able to address it--and I believe we should--is through a sequence of bills that begins by proving to people that illegal immigration is under control, modernizing our legal immigration system and then dealing with those who are here illegally.

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http://www.ontheissues.org/2014_Hopefuls.htm
Fox News Sunday 2014 interview of 2016 presidential hopefuls , Aug 3, 2014

Human trafficking law & deferred action caused border crisis
Q: House Republicans passed two measures, one to make it easier to deport those unaccompanied minors on the border, the other to block the president from deferring any more deportations. Isn't the GOP giving the country the "impression that its highest policy priority is to deport children"?

RUBIO: Well, I don't think that's an accurate assessment. We have an unsustainable situation on the border. The only way to address that is to address the root causes: a combination of violence, instability & poverty in Central America. But it's also, according to the president of Honduras, ambiguities in our laws--beginning in 2008 with a very well-intentioned law to prevent human trafficking--and then it continued in 2012 with the president's deferred action program. Those two things have allowed trafficking groups to go into Central America and tell people that America has some special law that's going to allow them to come here and stay, and that's serving as a lure that's driving this crisis.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2015/07/01/marco-rubio-confirms-his-support-of-a-path-to-citizenship-for-illegal-immigrants/

Marco Rubio confirms his support of a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants
July 1, 2015

...Asked in New Hampshire if he supported a path to citizenship, he said, “I do.” He continued that we nevertheless have to do two things — secure the border (and set up e-verify) and fix the legal immigration system. He points out, “In the 21st century it must be based on what skills you have and what you have to contribute economically.” Then, he said, Americans will be “very generous but responsible.” He would require a background check, paying a fine, paying taxes and receiving legal status; after “at least a decade,” they could apply for permanent residency, and several years thereafter apply for citizenship.

cks

Sep 16 2015, 08:02 PM

Chris Christie is being energetic - talking over Dana Basch. Carli Fiorina now repeating her stock comment from the last debate about the first two things she will do as president. Did have a good response about the Planned Parenthood states.

cks

Sep 16 2015, 08:29 PM

Rand Paul grudgingly conceded that he agreed with Trump on his reading of the 14th amendment .

Fiorina on immigration...

 

...And meanwhile, what has happened? Nothing. The border remains insecure. The legal immigration system remains broken. Look, we know what it takes to secure a border. We’ve heard a lot of great ideas here. Money, manpower, technology… …mostly, apparently, leadership… …the kind of leadership that understands how to get results.

Fiorina on her business history...

 

TAPPER: All right. Senator Paul, thank you so much. Let’s turn to a new topic. We’ve received a lot of questions on social media about the economy and about jobs. We have two CEOs on stage right now.

Ms. Fiorina, you were CEO of Hewlett Packard. Donald Trump says you, quote, “ran HP into the ground,” you laid off tens of thousands of people, you got viciously fired.

For voters looking to somebody with private-sector experience to create American jobs, why should they pick you and not Donald Trump?

FIORINA: I led Hewlett Packard through a very difficult time, the worst technology recession in 25 years. The NASDAQ stock index fell 80 percent. It took 15 years for the stock index to recover. We had very strong competitors who literally went out of business and lost all of their jobs in the process.

Despite those difficult times, we doubled the size of the company, we quadrupled its topline growth rate, we quadrupled its cash flow, we tripled its rate of innovation. [The bottom line is profit!]

Yes, we had to make tough choices, and in doing so, we saved 80,000 jobs, went on to grow to 160,000 jobs. And now Hewlett Packard is almost 300,000 jobs. We went from lagging behind to leading in every product category and every market segment.

We must lead in this nation again, and some tough calls are going to be required. But as for the firing, I have been very honest about this from the day it happened. When you challenge the status quo, you make enemies. I made a few. Steve Jobs told me that when he called me the day I was fired to say, hey, been there, done that twice.

It’s also true that the man that led my firing, Tom Perkins, just took out a full-page ad in the New York Times to say he was wrong, I was right. I was a terrific CEO, the board was dysfunctional. And he thinks I will make a magnificent president of the United States.

cks

Sep 17 2015, 04:54 AM

I did not think that Trump was at his finest - but then I do not think he did badly - a B performance.
Carson was a C - I think that he will fall in the polls; maybe not right away but I think that his zenith has been achieved.
Jebster had more oomph than previously displayed - and while I know that the pundits have rated him as a winner, along with Fiorina, I would say that it was a B performance as well. Better than last time but for someone who has been touted all along as the establishment favorite, he did not secure the knockout performance he needs.
Rubio, after the lame water remark actually did very well - his was a A-performance.
Cruz was also a B -C performance; Rand was in the same category.
Huckabee was a C - he is quickly becoming a one note Johnny.
Kasich tried to be the peacemaker and did not come off that strong. Definitely a low C.
Christie was combative and actually, I think, came out at the top of the scrum (barely).
Fiorina did appear wound tighter than a drum (Foxglove's great description). She is quick on the trigger with poised (almost too well-rehearsed - almost like she has a machine that she can click on and out comes the speech with the appropriate heat) remarks. She did well though I noticed that she struggled to make herself heard at times and at the beginning was too deferential to Tapper and company.