LTC8K6

Aug 19 2015, 08:22 PM

But they still can't join the Ranger Regiment. Graduating Ranger School doesn't get you into the regiment.

foxglove

Aug 19 2015, 08:28 PM

I wonder who took the pictures of the two women? Are photos usually taken during training?

foxglove

Aug 19 2015, 08:28 PM

I wonder who took the pictures of the two women? Are photos usually taken during training?

LTC8K6

Aug 19 2015, 08:22 PM

But they still can't join the Ranger Regiment. Graduating Ranger School doesn't get you into the regiment.

foxglove

Aug 21 2015, 02:38 AM

Congratulations to the two women trail blazers. Much will be made of their achievement as it forwards social engineering and greases the skids for women in military combat. Maybe it will also mean women need to sign up for selective service?

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/08/21/president-obama-planning-to-attend-army-ranger-graduation-ceremony/#more-105120

President Obama Planning To Attend Army Ranger Graduation Ceremony…

(Notice the slight difference in requirements since 2002).

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It should come as no surprise then that some Ranger instructors now say that the first women ever awarded the Ranger tab, Kristen Griest and Shaye Haver, received plenty of assistance. The two women started their quest in January when all prospective female Rangers began a special introductory course designed for guardsmen, regardless of their actual service component. The course was intended to weed out weekend warriors who weren’t tough enough, though neither Haver nor Griest belongs to the National Guard. Unlike the male guardsmen, however, the women were allowed to repeat the course as many times as necessary. In April, nineteen women including Haver and Griest began an experimental sex-integrated Ranger class. All nineteen failed phase one. The washouts, both male and female, were given the opportunity to begin the course again at day one. A group of eight elected to give a second try and again they failed. In the end, a group of three women, including Haver and Griest, agreed to be recycled back to day one.

When it was all over, several anonymous Ranger instructors contacted Congressman Steve Russell (R-OK), a combat veteran and former Army Ranger, to tell him that they had been pressured to go easy on the women. They “got special treatment and played by different rules.” The instructors also say that the women were sent to a special females-only intensive training course after their initial washout to give them a leg up. Other examples of special treatment include women not carrying as much gear—particularly the heavy M240B machine gun—and being allowed to reattempt combat tasks that men were simply eliminated for failing. Sources say that the women were allowed to familiarize themselves with the timed land navigation course before attempting it, an opportunity not afforded to men. One source says that the women were actually eliminated from the course before Major General Scott Miller, who oversees Ranger school, used his influence to reinstate them.

The instructors said that they feared reprisal for speaking out. “We were under huge pressure to comply,” one Ranger instructor said. “It was very much politicized.” Army spokespeople have denied any special treatment.

According to the instructors, an unnamed general said earlier this year that “a woman will graduate from Ranger school” and “at least one will get through.” The general’s pronouncement had a “ripple effect” according the instructors. Obviously this “first,” like most “firsts,” was a foregone conclusion. The military was not going to allow the women to fail. Even when they did fail, they were dragged across the finish line.