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"Deflate Gate" Brady to be suspended
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Jul 29 2015, 08:32 AM
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There are so many firsts in this Prosecution.

The NFL has already filed in Federal court. They asked the FED Court to affirm their decision....
How can they do that?

Did the NFL file a lawsuit against itself on Brady's behalf ....in the court of their choice?

Seen any links on this reporting?
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Unprecedented!
http://m.nbcsports.com/content/nfl-seeks-%E2%80%9Cconfirmation-arbitration-award%E2%80%9D-new-york

NFL seeks “confirmation of arbitration award” in New York

Mike Florio

updated 4:43 pm. EDT Jul. 28, 2015

What began with a 243-page report has culminated, for now, in a four-page lawsuit.

The short and simple complaint filed Tuesday by the NFL against the NFL Players Association in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York specifically seeks pre-emptive confirmation of the arbitration award reflected in Commissioner Roger Goodell’s decision to uphold the four-game suspension imposed on Patriots quarterback Tom Brady.

It’s a move likely without precedent. In past controversies, the NFL has issued a decision and then played defense in court. In this case, the NFL has opted to go on the offensive against the union and Brady.

The effort, on the surface, projects confidence in the league’s position. At a deeper level, it suggests real concern about how the NFL would fare in a forum more naturally favorable to Brady.

The document itself contains no clues or hints about the arguments that the NFL is anticipating. Instead, it seeks confirmation of the decision “under well-established principles of federal labor law.”

Inevitably, Brady and the NFLPA will file a lawsuit in a jurisdiction of their own choosing.


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Robert Kraft's statement: 'I was wrong to put my faith in the league'

FOXBOROUGH, Mass. -- The following is New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft's statement from Wednesday morning from Gillette Stadium:

“In light of yesterday’s league ruling, I thought it was important to make a statement today, prior to the start of training camp. After this, I will not be talking about this matter until after the legal process plays itself out, and I would advise everyone in the organization to do the same and just concentrate on preparation for the 2015 season.

“The decision handed down by the league yesterday is unfathomable to me. It is routine for discipline in the NFL to be reduced upon appeal. In the vast majority of these cases, there is tangible and hard evidence of the infraction for which the discipline is being imposed. And still the initial penalty gets reduced.

“Six months removed from the AFC Championship Game, the league still has no hard evidence of anybody doing anything to tamper with the PSI levels of footballs. I continue to believe and unequivocally support Tom Brady.

“I, first and foremost, need to apologize to our fans because I truly believe what I did in May -- given the actual evidence of the situation, and the league’s history on discipline matters -- would make it much easier for the league to exonerate Tom Brady.

“Unfortunately I was wrong.

“The league’s handling of this entire process has been extremely frustrating and disconcerting. I will never understand why an initial erroneous report regarding the PSI level of footballs was leaked by a source from the NFL a few days after the AFC Championship Game, and was never corrected by those who had the correct information.

“For four months, that report cast aspersions and shaped public opinion. Yesterday’s decision by Commissioner Goodell was released in a similar manner, under an erroneous headline that read, ‘Tom Brady destroyed his cell phone.’ This headline was designed to capture headlines across the country and obscure evidence regarding the tampering of air pressure in footballs.

“It intentionally implied nefarious behavior and minimized the acknowledgement that Tom provided the history of every number he texted during that relevant time frame. We had already provided the league with every cell phone of every non-NFLPA employee that they requested, including head coach Bill Belichick.

“Tom Brady is a person of great integrity, and is a great ambassador of the game, both on and off the field. Yet for reasons that I cannot comprehend, there are those in the league office who are more determined to prove that they are right rather than admit any culpability of their own, or take any responsibility for the initiation of a process and ensuing investigation that was flawed.

“I’ve come to the conclusion that this was never about doing what was fair and just. Back in May, I had to make a difficult decision that I now regret.

“I tried to do what I thought was right. I chose not to take legal action. I wanted to return the focus to football. I have been negotiating agreements on a global basis my entire life, and I know there are times when you have to give up important points of principle to achieve a greater good. I acted in good faith and was optimistic that by taking the actions I took, the league would have what they wanted.

“I was willing to accept the harshest penalty in the history of the NFL for an alleged ball violation, because I believed it would help exonerate Tom.

“I have often said ‘If you want to get a deal done, sometimes you have to get the lawyers out of the room.’ I had hopes that Tom Brady's appeal to the league would provide Roger Goodell the necessary explanation to overturn his suspension.

“Now the league has taken the matter to court, which is a tactic that only a lawyer would recommend.

“Once again, I want to apologize to the fans of the New England Patriots and Tom Brady. I was wrong to put my faith in the league.

“Given the facts, evidence and laws of science that underscore this entire situation, it is completely incomprehensible to me that the league continues to take steps to disparage one of its all-time great players and a man for whom I have the utmost respect.

“Personally, this is very sad and disappointing to me.”


http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4782995/robert-krafts-statement-i-was-wrong-to-put-my-faith-in-the-league


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The other side of the story.

Tom Brady's Court Filing in Minnesota. (pdf)

eta: This should be an interesting story to follow over the next month. Will the case be heard in NY or Minnesota? Will Brady be allowed to play while the case drags on and on and on?


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The other side of the story.

Tom Brady's Court Filing in Minnesota. (pdf)

eta: This should be an interesting story to follow over the next month. Will the case be heard in NY or Minnesota? Will Brady be allowed to play while the case drags on and on and on?


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Uh-oh. Sdsgo is involved.

Thanks for the link.

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There are so many firsts in this Prosecution.

The NFL has already filed in Federal court. They asked the FED Court to affirm their decision....
How can they do that?

Did the NFL file a lawsuit against itself on Brady's behalf ....in the court of their choice?

Seen any links on this reporting?
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Unprecedented!
http://m.nbcsports.com/content/nfl-seeks-%E2%80%9Cconfirmation-arbitration-award%E2%80%9D-new-york

NFL seeks “confirmation of arbitration award” in New York

Mike Florio

updated 4:43 pm. EDT Jul. 28, 2015

What began with a 243-page report has culminated, for now, in a four-page lawsuit.

The short and simple complaint filed Tuesday by the NFL against the NFL Players Association in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York specifically seeks pre-emptive confirmation of the arbitration award reflected in Commissioner Roger Goodell’s decision to uphold the four-game suspension imposed on Patriots quarterback Tom Brady.

It’s a move likely without precedent. In past controversies, the NFL has issued a decision and then played defense in court. In this case, the NFL has opted to go on the offensive against the union and Brady.

The effort, on the surface, projects confidence in the league’s position. At a deeper level, it suggests real concern about how the NFL would fare in a forum more naturally favorable to Brady.

The document itself contains no clues or hints about the arguments that the NFL is anticipating. Instead, it seeks confirmation of the decision “under well-established principles of federal labor law.”

Inevitably, Brady and the NFLPA will file a lawsuit in a jurisdiction of their own choosing.


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It is odd. Goodell ruled and then presided over the appeal (he agreed with himself).

Now, they are seeking a pre-emptive ruling.

Imagine if big Corps did that.

Imagine the outcry if they did it to singular employees, in this manner.

Brady had no control over when the appeal would be handed down, nor what season. The other side did.


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The other side of the story.

Tom Brady's Court Filing in Minnesota. (pdf)

eta: This should be an interesting story to follow over the next month. Will the case be heard in NY or Minnesota? Will Brady be allowed to play while the case drags on and on and on?


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I read the wells report and it said there was no scientific reason for the levels changing in the balls.

The gauge thing is absolutely Moe, Curly, and Larry, even after that, they essentially said there can be no other reason - that is far from the truth.

Ideal Gas Law.

This was simply something that was not important to the NFL, until there came an opportunity to get Brady
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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/30/sports/football/deflation-experiments-show-patriots-may-have-science-on-their-side-after-all.html?_r=0


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As I am about half way through it, I find myself comparing it to PSU. PSU faced the NCAA, which followed rules that gave it 'catch all' clauses for CYA in how it operated, and there was no agreement relating to any players, which only applies in the NFL case anyway.

The legal speak leaves the hint throughout all I've read that Brady is working to get off on technicalities, while the reality is the NFL had zero evidence and zero rules to base the suspension on. They base the hearing ruling on circumstances that you can't even rely on to build the suppositions necessary to get past weak suspicion at best.

It really doesn't compare to PSU, as there was real victims in that case, all children.
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Colt's footballs were not measured. 3 out of 4 outside of acceptable range, and the Ref's stopped right there.

Leaks to ESPN were bad info.
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As I am about half way through it, I find myself comparing it to PSU. PSU faced the NCAA, which followed rules that gave it 'catch all' clauses for CYA in how it operated, and there was no agreement relating to any players, which only applies in the NFL case anyway.

The legal speak leaves the hint throughout all I've read that Brady is working to get off on technicalities, while the reality is the NFL had zero evidence and zero rules to base the suspension on. They base the hearing ruling on circumstances that you can't even rely on to build the suppositions necessary to get past weak suspicion at best.

It really doesn't compare to PSU, as there was real victims in that case, all children.
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What blew me away was that when there was uncertainty, it went against Brady, when one would think it would work in his favor.

That report was 5 million dollars!

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John Dowd, Attorney and Special Counsel, who wrote the report for MLB on Pete Rose, read the Wells report and said it's troubling because he said he can find no basis for punishing Brady in that report.

He can be heard here, but it's rather lengthy:

http://media.weei.com/device/mobile/a/107821899/pete-rose-investigator-john-dowd-nfl-s-process-reaks-of-fundamental-unfairness.htm


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If it were Cam Newton or Dez Bryant - they could have their own footballs made by child labor in Ethiopia to their own specificaitons.

Brady is not popular. The League is constantly talking about the new generation of QB and player - and a White, Christian, Straight Male just isn't it.

Look at Madden covers.

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WHITLOCK / ESPN: IT'S HUMOROUS TO WATCH THE RICH AND POWERFUL BE TREATED LIKE THE POOR AND POWERLESS.

HOW DO YOU THINK THE PEOPLE IN FERGUSON AND BALTIMORE FEEL?


This after published reports that Black players would not stand for Brady's punishment to be cut.

We Have RACIAL REVENGE going on here.

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Edited by Mason, Jul 30 2015, 02:48 AM.
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If it were Cam Newton or Dez Bryant - they could have their own footballs made by child labor in Ethiopia to their own specificaitons.

Brady is not popular. The League is constantly talking about the new generation of QB and player - and a White, Christian, Straight Male just isn't it.

Look at Madden covers.

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WHITLOCK / ESPN: IT'S HUMOROUS TO WATCH THE RICH AND POWERFUL BE TREATED LIKE THE POOR AND POWERLESS.

HOW DO YOU THINK THE PEOPLE IN FERGUSON AND BALTIMORE FEEL?


This after published reports that Black players would not stand for Brady's punishment to be cut.

We Have RACIAL REVENGE going on here.

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http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13343272/new-england-patriots-owner-robert-kraft-quarterback-tom-brady-get-taste-justice-system

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"I was wrong to put my faith in the league," Kraft complained.

Right or wrong, that's how those kids in the streets of Baltimore and Ferguson feel about our system of justice.
I don't believe any of "those kids" were thinking about the system of justice.

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New York Times compares Brady to Richard Nixon!

This is like a league and a sports media that would Hate Tim Tebow. Wait.

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Edited by Mason, Jul 30 2015, 11:26 AM.
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