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| Mason | Aug 19 2015, 05:59 PM Post #136 |
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. Good to see something making sense. The Judge was the first person that I heard publically make the argument I made - did his peformance improve with the suspected footballs (they can't be sure because of the Refs couldn't be sure of what they did). Did his performance improve with the low balls? No. Brady as consistent. He improved all along and had his best game in the Super Bowl - after all this supposedly came to light. It's a common sense metric. |
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| Mason | Aug 19 2015, 10:11 PM Post #137 |
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. From the Comments Section: Brady 45 NFL 7 
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| Baldo | Aug 26 2015, 07:27 PM Post #138 |
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Judge: I'm not sure Roger Goodell understands there is a CBA(Collective Bargaining Agreement) MINNEAPOLIS – The federal judge who long has presided over NFL labor matters is as interested as everyone else to see how things play out in the Tom Brady Deflategate case. And he apparently doesn’t have much regard for NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell’s understanding of the collective bargaining agreement. At a hearing Wednesday on a contempt motion filed by the NFL Players Association in the Adrian Peterson case, U.S. District Judge David S. Doty said “we’re all very curious” how Judge Richard M. Berman will rule on Brady, whose four-game suspension is now the subject of proceedings and settlement talks in the Southern District of New York. The NFLPA filed its motion in May against the NFL, the NFL Management Council and Goodell, whom Doty noted multiple times Wednesday isn’t an attorney while questioning union counsel Jeffrey Kessler about who exactly the NFLPA wants to be held in contempt for alleged interference with the court’s order to hold further arbitration proceedings in the Peterson case. “I’m not sure the commissioner understands there is a CBA,” Doty said, citing Goodell’s actions and quotes in newspaper articles he has read. The NFL's labor deal gives the commissioner broad power to impose and arbitrate discipline. The union has argued on a string of recent cases Goodell has abused that power and failed to follow proper processes. Because Goodell — who wasn’t present Wednesday — lacks legal expertise, Doty said, he doesn’t understand contempt and only would’ve been acting on the advice of his attorneys on such matters. “Jail time – is that what you want?” Doty asked Kessler at one point. “Do you want us to put the commissioner in jail?” Kessler said no. The NFLPA wants an order from the court that the NFL and union jointly ask Henderson to issue a new ruling consistent with Doty’s orders, as well as an award of attorney’s fees and an order making clear the league in the future cannot impose its updated personal conduct policy retroactively. Doty took the matter under advisement and the parties adjourned to a court-ordered mediation session before Magistrate Judge Jamie S. Mayeron. The union also filed its Brady lawsuit here, but the court transferred the case to New York, where the NFL preemptively filed for confirmation of Goodell’s decision to uphold Brady’s suspension for allegedly participating in a scheme to deflate footballs in January’s AFC championship game. Brady, the New England Patriots’ star quarterback, has denied involvement. Settlement talks have continued this week. Doty has ruled in the NFLPA’s favor numerous times through the years, including his February decision to vacate the arbitration award that upheld Peterson’s suspension. The NFL appealed. The union filed its motion based in part on arguments from the NFL’s attorneys to appeals officer Harold Henderson, who has yet to issue a new arbitration ruling. NFL attorney Daniel Nash argued Wednesday the union didn’t follow “meet and confer” rules before filing the contempt motion and the league precisely followed the court’s orders by moving Peterson from the suspended list back to the commissioner’s exempt list in February. Nash’s arguments to Henderson about not issuing a new ruling until the appeals court rules were only in response to the NFLPA’s requests for relief, he said. Nash also denied the league directed Henderson not to rule, saying it wouldn’t have the power to stop him anyway. Asked why the league didn’t seek a stay from the court, which Doty said he probably would’ve granted, Nash said the league felt it unnecessary. Nash pointed out the NFL has not moved to collect three additional game checks from Peterson from the time his appeal was pending in addition to the three he lost while serving his suspension, at a total cost of a little more than $2 million. Peterson, the Minnesota Vikings’ star running back, arrived a few minutes into Wednesday’s hearing. He nodded his head when Kessler said Peterson would probably give back the money in exchange for the ability to play the games he missed after his indictment in Texas for injuring his 4-year-old son with a wooden switch. The Peterson case is important precedent in part because Dallas Cowboys defensive end Greg Hardy is still considering whether to sue the league, as Peterson did, over the retroactive application of the revised personal conduct policy. Henderson reduced Hardy’s suspension from 10 to four games – evidence Henderson read and understood Doty’s ruling, Kessler argued....snipped http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2015/08/26/judge-doty-roger-goodell-adrian-peterson-deflategate/32402155/ Edited by Baldo, Aug 26 2015, 07:27 PM.
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| Mason | Aug 31 2015, 03:56 PM Post #139 |
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. http://www.vagazette.com/ct-tom-brady-courtroom-sketch-artist-20150831,0,786536.story . |
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| sdsgo | Sep 3 2015, 09:34 AM Post #140 |
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Tom Brady Deflate-Gate: Federal Judge Throws Out NFL Star's Suspension NBCNEWS A federal judge on Thursday threw out Tom Brady's four-game suspension in Deflate-Gate. Judge Richard Berman of Manhattan federal court announced the decision after the league and the players union, representing the star quarterback, failed to reach a settlement of their bitter dispute. The league suspended Brady after concluding that he and two New England Patriots equipment managers conspired to let air out of footballs before the AFC championship game in January, presumably to make them easier to grip. Brady has said that nobody employed by the Patriots did anything wrong. The ruling means Brady would be eligible to play in seven days, when the Patriots open their defense of their Super Bowl title against the Pittsburgh Steelers. |
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| sdsgo | Sep 3 2015, 09:42 AM Post #141 |
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Decision and Order link Three major findings: 1. Inadequate Notice of Discipline and Misconduct 2. Commissioner Goodell Improperly Denied Brady the Opportunity to Examine Designated Co-Lead Investigator Jeff Pash 3. Commissioner Goodell Improperly Denied Brady Equal Access to Investigative Files "The Court is fully aware of the deference afforded to arbitral decisions, but, nevertheless, concludes that the Award should be vacated. The Award is premised upon several significant legal deficiencies, including (A) inadequate notice to Brady of both his potential discipline (fourgame suspension) and his alleged misconduct; (B) denial of the opportunity for Brady to examine one of two lead investigators, namely NFL Executive Vice President and General Counsel JeffPash; and (C) denial of equal access to investigative files, including witness interview notes. " Edited by sdsgo, Sep 3 2015, 09:53 AM.
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| chatham | Sep 3 2015, 09:52 AM Post #142 |
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Goodell loses them all. |
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| Baldo | Sep 3 2015, 10:09 AM Post #143 |
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Goodell's Future as Commissioner NFL Not For Long |
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| cks | Sep 3 2015, 05:51 PM Post #144 |
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Condi Rice for NFL Commissioner! |
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| kbp | Sep 3 2015, 07:25 PM Post #145 |
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No matter how much I dislike Belichick, and those associated with him, he and his team are good. That's about the limit of why I never admired Brady, though it is obvious he plays well. That left me without a dog in the fight. I was amazed at how Goodell handled this and cheered Brady for fighting back.
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| cks | Sep 3 2015, 07:36 PM Post #146 |
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My feelings exactly. |
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| Mason | Sep 3 2015, 07:42 PM Post #147 |
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. ESPN legal experts all said there was no way that Brady could win. OPEN AND SHUT CASE - they said. These were the same legal experts that said the Duke lacrosse players were going to go to jail for 35 years. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/08/21/espn-legal-analyst-declares-nfl-will-win-brady-case/ I heard Munson and Cossack on the Radio - and they were totally confident - and totally dismissive of any argument supporting Brady. The media would have blown up - exploded - and the questions would be why would the Head of the League being trying to take out their Premier player, who has been a good ambassador? Goodell knows it's all about race in the Sport's Media. As Geraldo said about the Duke LAX players, these aren't the guys to go to bat for. These guys aren't deserving of Justice adept protections. That was the simple calculation with Brady. They could have Cam Newton on Video changing the scoreboard - and they would explain he was instructed to help by the head of NFL officiating. Brady was their target because of his race. . |
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| foxglove | Sep 3 2015, 07:56 PM Post #148 |
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http://dailycaller.com/2015/09/03/total-winner-trump-congratulates-tom-brady-on-kicking-loser-goodells-a-video/ Total Winner': Trump Congratulates Tom Brady On Kicking Loser Goodell’s A** [VIDEO] http://www.examiner.com/article/donald-trump-speaks-on-tom-brady-nfl-suspension-latest-2016-odds "... Trump defended Brady, according to NBC Sports in their Aug. 22 report saying it was wrong for NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell to ever suspend the football star. He commented that he thinks “it’s ridiculous the way they’ve treated him” and added “They ought to go back to playing football. This country has bigger problems.”... |
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| Baldo | Sep 3 2015, 08:26 PM Post #149 |
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Since playing with the Patriots, Brady won four Super Bowls and was named Super Bowl MVP three times. Goodell is a poor commissioner Edited by Baldo, Sep 3 2015, 08:26 PM.
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| chatham | Sep 3 2015, 09:41 PM Post #150 |
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This decision had nothing to do with Brady. It was about the illegal way Goodell handled the issue. |
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