| "Deflate Gate" Brady to be suspended | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: May 8 2015, 05:41 PM (3,757 Views) | |
| MikeZPU | May 8 2015, 05:41 PM Post #1 |
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http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/myers-roger-goodell-suspend-tom-brady-deflategate-article-1.2215881 Tom Brady will be the highest profile player ever suspended in the 96-year history of the NFL. Roger Goodell's decision is expected to be announced next week and it is no longer a matter of if the NFL commissioner will suspend Brady, but for how long he will suspend him. In conversations I've had with several key sources who always have a good sense of what goes on at 345 Park Avenue, there is little doubt Goodell considers Brady's role in DeflateGate a serious violation. The NFL is convinced, according to sources, that connecting all the dots of the evidence supplied by Wells leads to one conclusion: Brady cheated. The feeling is the Wells Report supplied Goodell with enough ammunition to suspend Brady both for breaking the rules by ordering the deflation of footballs and by not cooperating with the investigation when he refused to turn over his cell phone to Wells’ investigators. The only question now is how many games with which Goodell will hit the league’s star player? Estimates have been all over the map. My feeling is he will wind up with two games, whether that is the initial discipline handed out or whether he is hit with four and ends up with two after an appeal. http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/myers-roger-goodell-suspend-tom-brady-deflategate-article-1.2215881 Read more at link above. Edited by MikeZPU, May 8 2015, 05:41 PM.
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| Baldo | May 8 2015, 06:24 PM Post #2 |
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IMHO any suspension will be overturned by the arbitrator which is part of the NFLPA Labor Agreement. There is no arrest, no court docs, and the Wells Report admits they it cannot prove it. So what is this all about? |
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| wingedwheel | May 8 2015, 06:28 PM Post #3 |
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I agree it will be overturned. What it seems to be about is showing fairness of suspensions after that elevator incident. Guess they want to show they will suspend the golden boy just as they would the bad boys. |
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| Baldo | May 8 2015, 08:19 PM Post #4 |
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It's a dog & pony show to distract attention away from the real issues of the NFL which are; The overuse of drugs to mask pain for players. This is a big issue, far bigger than 1 1/2 lbs less pressure in football. This effects long term health of players. The continue use of PEDs which are still being used. The NFL could stop it IF they applied the Rules & Regulations of the World Tennis Association in regards Drug Testing The head injuries caused by violent hits which are long term. They have started to do some work on this. A culture where just win baby goes to the top Finally a monopoly of 32 Billionaires who fleece local communities for stadiums and fleece the fans I enjoy Pro Football, but it needs a new Commissioner, someone to clean up its act. They need to lose their monopolistic powers Edited by Baldo, May 8 2015, 08:20 PM.
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| Baldo | May 11 2015, 05:25 PM Post #5 |
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Tom Brady suspended four games, Patriots lose draft picks for Deflategate New England quarterback Tom Brady has been suspended for four games and the Patriots will also lose a first-round pick in the 2016 draft and a fourth-rounder in 2017, NFL officials reported. The Patriots also will be fined $1 million.. The two Patriots staff members involved in the deflation footballs before last season's AFC Championship game against the Indianapolis Colts have also been suspended indefinitely by the league. Brady, 37, a two-time NFL most valuable player, is coming off his fourth Super Bowl victory. In January, four days after the AFC championship game in question, Brady stood at a lectern and denied knowing about any footballs were being deflated.....snipped http://tinyurl.com/nsbe7vs Edited by Baldo, May 11 2015, 05:27 PM.
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| MikeZPU | May 11 2015, 06:01 PM Post #6 |
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It will be interesting to see if Brady appeals the decision. If he doesn't appeal it, some might interpret that as Brady admitting being complicit in deflating the balls. But if he does appeal it, it will shed more light on the evidence. The evidence on the ball handler's cell phone is pretty damning, unless Brady claims that the ball handler fabricated those txt msgs to frame him. We shall see! Edited by MikeZPU, May 11 2015, 06:17 PM.
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| Baldo | May 11 2015, 06:25 PM Post #7 |
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Ray Rice deflated his finance in a knock-out and was suspended two games. |
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| MikeZPU | May 11 2015, 06:52 PM Post #8 |
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AND the Ravens tweeted Rice's fiancé's apology for her role in getting knocked out. Edited by MikeZPU, May 12 2015, 10:03 AM.
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| foxglove | May 11 2015, 07:49 PM Post #9 |
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http://blog.masslive.com/patriots/2015/05/tom_bradys_four-game_suspensio.html Tom Brady's four-game suspension: New England QB's agent Don Yee promises appeal in statement Don Yee, the agent for New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady, released a statement Monday night in response to the NFL's four-game suspension. Here is the entire statement: "The discipline is ridiculous and has no legitimate basis. In my opinion, this outcome was pre-determined; there was no fairness in the Wells investigation whatsoever. There is no evidence that Tom directed footballs be set at pressures below the allowable limits. In fact, the evidence shows Tom clearly emphasized that footballs be set at pressures within the rules. Tom also cooperated with the investigation and answered every question presented to him. The Wells Report presents significant evidence, however, that the NFL lacks standards or protocols with respect to its handling of footballs prior to games; this is not the fault of Tom or the Patriots. The report also presents significant evidence the NFL participated with the Colts in some type of pre-AFC Championship Game planning regarding the footballs. This fact may raise serious questions about the integrity of the games we view on Sundays. We will appeal, and if the hearing officer is completely independent and neutral, I am very confident the Wells Report will be exposed as an incredibly frail exercise in fact-finding and logic. The NFL has a well-documented history of making poor disciplinary decisions that often are overturned when truly independent and neutral judges or arbitrators preside, and a former federal judge has found the commissioner has abused his discretion in the past, so this outcome does not surprise me. Sadly, today's decision diminishes the NFL as it tells its fans, players and coaches that the games on the field don't count as much as the games played on Park Avenue." |
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| chatham | May 12 2015, 06:08 AM Post #10 |
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It will be reversed on appeal. |
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| LTC8K6 | May 12 2015, 08:38 AM Post #11 |
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I think it was a statement from the NFL to the Pats, who have been accused of cheating before. Cheating affects the integrity of the game, so it should be punished heavily. (If anyone cares about integrity these days) I think this punishment was intended as a strong warning. I believe it will be reduced. I think it was intended as an "over-punishment" that would be reduced. However, the appeals process should mean that Brady and the Pats have to answer some questions. You can't just appeal without talking about the charges and the incident. |
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| Baldo | May 12 2015, 05:01 PM Post #12 |
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That paragon of integrity & fair play. Pentagon Paid NFL $5.4 Million for Events Honoring Troops NFL has revenues of nearly $10 billion Sen. Jeff Flake (R., Ariz.) is questioning why taxpayers had to subsidize NFL events honoring America’s troops. The Pentagon gave the NFL, which has revenues of nearly $10 billion, $5.4 million between 2011 and 2014 for pregame and halftime events that appeared to be put on by the football teams themselves. The Hill reports: “It is troubling to learn that taxpayer funds are being used to compensate these teams for honoring and recognizing U.S. military service members,” Flake said Monday to Defense Secretary Ashton Carter and Chief of the National Guard Bureau Gen. Frank Grass. A report last week by NJ.com found that the Department of Defense paid the Atlanta Falcons more than $1 million during those three years, around $885,000 to the Baltimore Ravens and just under $378,000 to the New York Jets, most of which came from the New Jersey National Guard. “While it may be appropriate for the National Guard or other service branches to spend taxpayer funds on activities directly related to recruiting, giving taxpayer funds to professional sports teams for activities that are portrayed to the public as paying homage to U.S. military personnel would seem inappropriate,” Flake said. “Such promotions conjure up feelings of patriotism and pride for most sports fans, and the revelation that these are in fact paid arrangements is disappointing,” he added. According to Flake’s office, the NFL is not alone in being subsidized by the taxpayers to honor service members. The Pentagon has other contracts with the MLB, NBA, NASCAR, Major League Soccer, and the NCAA. Flake sent a letter to Secretary of Defense Ash Carter on Tuesday asking for the total the Pentagon has spent on similar events at college and professional sporting events since 2009. http://freebeacon.com/issues/pentagon-paid-nfl-5-4-million-for-events-honoring-troops/ There is a saying in the NFL, "If you're not cheating, you're not trying!" |
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| chatham | May 12 2015, 07:31 PM Post #13 |
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I don't think the pats or their coach were accused of cheating by the NFL or other teams. I believe they were accused of breaking the rule on where one could video the defensive signals of the opposing team. It's is not cheating photographing the other team as long as it is done as the rule stated. Belichek pleaded ignorance. The NFL for some strange reason destroyed the videos. Some people think it was because belichek had evidence that other teams did the same type of filming. It is well known that Q-backs like deflated balls And use them in games. The NFL itself had a chance to examine the balls used in the game and chose not to. They did in the second half of the game. If we remember the second half was where NE pounded the other team. IMO godell has pressure to do something to the pats. That is why the penalty seems too harsh for the "crime". The penalty will be overturned. To what degree it will be overturned one will just have to wait and see. moo |
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| kbp | May 12 2015, 07:36 PM Post #14 |
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Patriots announce newcomer Dom Grady will start in replacement of suspended Tom Brady for first four games of the season. 
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| Baldo | May 14 2015, 12:16 AM Post #15 |
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This is how the NFL let deflate-gate get out of control and ridiculous By Dan Wetzel With anger still simmering, an appeal coming and Ted Wells holding a fiery teleconference Tuesday to attack Tom Brady's agent (professionalism straight out of the WWE), it's fair to say we are far from the end of deflate-gate. A first-year attorney could lampoon Wells' report, and Brady has hired the prominent Jeffrey Kessler, so expect the four-game suspension to be halved on appeal. We'll see about the New England Patriots' lost draft picks and $1 million fine. Still, at this point it's worth contemplating the totality of evidence, as Wells likes to write. And what's apparent is deflate-gate was more misdemeanor than felony, a molehill that commissioner Roger Goodell's office turned into a mountain via incompetence, vengeance or both. The idea a Patriots lackey carried game balls into a bathroom and took a little air out via a needle prior to the AFC championship game is a relatively moderate rule violation – and a comical bit of gamesmanship. It's wrong and deserves punishment but not something that should merit a four-month, multi-million dollar investigation and the tsk-tsking of over-the-top pious law-and-order types. "It's not ISIS," Tom Brady said back in January. Wells should have focused on that line rather than whine about Brady not handing over electronic communication that may not exist (did he expect to find a confessional email chain with BBelichick@Patriots.com?). It doesn't matter whether you think Brady and New England are guilty or innocent, punished properly or inappropriately. Me? I go with common sense and common sense says the Patriots' equipment guys did it to gain some advantage and Brady was approving of the act. Yet the biggest take away from this tiresome ordeal is how Goodell's lack of touch, vision, courage and guile created a circus. Start with this: the story didn't go big until ESPN reported about 24 hours after the game that the NFL had discovered that 11 of the 12 footballs were measured to be more than 2 pounds per square inch below the league minimum of 12.5. That gave a subject that almost no one knew much about context, significance and potentially sinister intent. ESPN cited a nebulous "league source" at a time when it's believed no one outside the NFL office knew the actual measurements. Of course, that story wasn't true. It wasn't even close to true. Wells' report showed that none of the footballs, each measured twice, were that underinflated. At that very moment, the NFL had to know the story wasn't true. Yet it did nothing. So the league either created a fake story that was extremely prejudicial to the Patriots by leaking inaccurate information or someone else did it and the league office let it run wild rather than correct it with the actual air pressure measurements. It's tough to figure out which scenario is worse for Goodell....snipped ...No gameball was measured below 10.5 and most were in the 11s, which is within an acceptable range of natural deflation. Three of the four Colts footballs as measured by one gauge were below 12.5, although also within the weather realm (it's uncertain the NFL knew anything about Ideal Gas Law at the time)...snipped Wells' report brushed this off as "miscommunication" but it's quite a miscommunication. http://sports.yahoo.com/news/this-is-how-the-nfl-let-deflate-gate-get-so-out-of-control-and-ridiculous-200459796.html Read the entire article Dan Wetzel is a well respected sportswriter. I really don't know what the NFL & Goodell are up to. There are serious, much more serious problems in the NFL, then slightly under-inflated footballs. It really isn't that big a deal, especially when the Pats defeated the Colts 45-7 Edited by Baldo, May 14 2015, 12:22 AM.
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