Obama's Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal

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Obama's Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal; What is he doing?
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kbp	Jun 12 2015, 07:25 PM Post #46
Posts: 52,052 Group: Tier1 Member #20 Joined: Apr 28, 2008	How can we decide where we stand, other than against the unknown?



foxglove	Jun 12 2015, 07:57 PM Post #47
Posts: 6,542 Group: Tier1 Member #69 Joined: Apr 28, 2008	http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/12/sessions-a-vote-for-taa-next-week-is-a-vote-to-send-fast-track-to-the-presidents-desk/ U.S. Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) warns: It appears there will be another attempt by Tuesday to force through new executive powers for President Obama. A vote for TAA next week is a vote to send fast-track to the President’s desk and to grant him these broad new executive authorities. If that happens, it will empower the President to form a Pacific Union encompassing 40 percent of the world’s economy and 12 nations—each with one equal vote. Once the union is formed, foreign bureaucrats will be required to meet regularly to write the Commission’s rules, regulations, and directives—impacting Americans’ jobs, wages, and sovereignty. The union is chartered with a “Living Agreement,” and there is no doubt it will seek to expand its membership and reach over time. Fast-track will not only apply to the Pacific Union, but can expedite an unlimited number of yet-unseen international compacts for six years. There are already plans to advance through fast-track the Trade in Services Agreement, the goal of which includes labor mobility among more than 50 nations, further eroding the ability of the American people to control their own affairs. Americans do not want this, did not ask for it, and are pleading from their hearts for their lawmakers to stop it. The same people projecting the benefits of leaping into a colossal new economic union could not even accurately predict the impact of a standalone agreement with South Korea. The latter deal, which promised to boost our exports to them $10 billion, instead only budged them less than $1 billion, while South Korea’s imports to us increased more than $12 billion, nearly doubling our trading deficit. This new agreement will only further increase our trading deficit: opening our markets to foreign imports while allowing our trading partners to continue their non-tariff barriers that close their markets to ours. If we want a new trade deal with Japan, or with Vietnam, then they should be negotiated bilaterally and sent to Congress under regular order. Under no circumstances should the House authorize, through fast-track, the formation of a new international commission that will regulate not only trade, but immigration, labor, environmental, and all manner of commercial policy. What American went to the polls in 2014 to vote for fast-track and a new global union? Can anyone honestly say that Congress is trying to ram this deal through because they think their constituents want it? While elites dream of a world without borders, voters dream of a world where the politicians they elect put this country’s own citizens first. The movement among Americans toward a decent, honest populism—toward a refocusing on the needs of American citizens and American interests—grows stronger by the day. Every vote to come before Congress, beginning with the next fast-track push, will face this test: does your plan strengthen or weaken the social and economic position of the loyal, everyday working American? Edited by foxglove, Jun 12 2015, 07:58 PM.



Baldo	Jun 14 2015, 11:15 AM Post #48
Posts: 59,988 Group: Global Moderators Member #45 Joined: Apr 28, 2008	*New questions arise about House Democratic caucus’s loyalty to Obama* http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-takes-one-on-the-chin-from-his-own-party-on-trade-bill/2015/06/12/d1aa7da6-1126-11e5-9726-49d6fa26a8c6_story.html



Baldo	Jun 15 2015, 08:23 PM Post #49
Posts: 59,988 Group: Global Moderators Member #45 Joined: Apr 28, 2008	*Obama’s trade plan in critical condition* But there’s one big problem: Democrats are still opposed to anything that would advance the president’s free trade pact. Congressional leaders and the White House are quickly finding there’s no easy option to revive President Barack Obama’s free trade initiative, leaving the White House’s top legislative priority in critical condition after Democrats turned against it in droves last week. Millions of dollars and countless hours have been spent trying to pass Trade Promotion Authority, a key component in Obama’s quest to strike a trade deal with 11 other Pacific Rim countries. But Congress is now hung up on Trade Adjustment Assistance, a job training and aid program that typically rides alongside trade deals. One hundred and forty-four Democrats abandoned Obama on the TAA bill, which needs to pass for the legislation to be sent to the White House. Party leaders in both houses of Congress are in touch with the White House in an attempt to figure out how to advance the legislation. But House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy, speaking to reporters Monday, said, “The best option right now” is for “the Democrats [to] come to their senses” and back TAA. Democrats responded that it’s up to Republicans to figure out how to proceed. “The point is, Republicans have to decide how they can go [forward], then we’ll have to make some response to that. Right now, they haven’t done that,” said Minority Whip Steny Hoyer (D-Md.). Pro-trade Democrats, including those close to the White House, would like to see Speaker John Boehner hold one vote on TAA and fast-track authority. Boehner (R-Ohio) split the vote last week, to give Republicans a chance to vote for fast-track authority, and Democrats a chance to vote for TAA. Since that failed, Democrats believe Boehner should put it back together, the theory being pro-trade Republicans and Democrats would vote for the legislation and send it to Obama’s desk. But top House Republicans say there is no way that bill can pass the chamber, since scores of GOP lawmakers would dissent, due to objections to TAA. “No chance of that passing,” one senior GOP lawmaker said. “None.”...snipped http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/kevin-mccarthy-house-gop-trade-vote-119009.html Maybe Boehner could have a cryingg session with Obama throwing a temper tantrum.



kbp	Jun 15 2015, 10:40 PM Post #50
Posts: 52,052 Group: Tier1 Member #20 Joined: Apr 28, 2008	I'm still not sure what it would do. As for the Democrats, I assume they did not like the cause and cure passed all at once. They might like it better if they can add the cure later, as they're accustomed to. It gives them an enemy to united against.



foxglove	Jun 16 2015, 04:33 AM Post #51
Posts: 6,542 Group: Tier1 Member #69 Joined: Apr 28, 2008	http://www.ibtimes.com/trans-pacific-partnership-industries-favoring-trade-agreement-gave-86-times-more-1965852 A nonpartisan research organization Saturday released figures indicating industries supporting the Trans Pacific Partnership trade pact gave 8.6 times more money to current members of the House than industries opposed to the measure. Maplight.org, which compiles data about the sources of campaign contributions in U.S. presidential, congressional, state, and local ballot and candidate elections, released figures indicating industries supporting the pact gave $197.9 million to current lawmakers, compared to $23.1 million given by industries opposed to the measure. The House Friday voted 302-126 against Trade Adjustment Assistance, a federal program that reduces the impact of imports on certain sectors of the U.S. economy, shattering President Barack Obama's hopes for quick passage of the TPP. The Maplight figures indicate House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, was the biggest recipient of the industries' largesse, receiving more than $5.3 million, compared to $83,651 from industries opposed to the TAA. Rounding out the top five were Republican Reps. Kevin McCarthy of California ($2.4 million vs. $20,500), Paul Ryan of Wisconsin ($2.3 million vs. $13,750) and Pat Tiberi of Ohio, ($1.65 million vs. $23,200), and Rep. Steny Hoyer, D-Md. ($1.61 million vs. $232,750). (Bold emphasis is mine). http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2015/06/15/capital-download-paul-ryan-trade-deal-obamacare/71261862/ http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/06/11/paul_ryan_petty_political_issues_of_the_day_pale_in_comparison_to_trade_debate.html http://www.conservativehq.com/article/20449-paul-ryan-now-ugly-face-gop-establishment Paul Ryan: Now the Ugly Face of the GOP Establishment "... In his arrogant dismissal of conservative populist concerns about Obama’s secret trade deal, in his outright lies about its provisions, and especially in his angry advocacy of establishment Republican corporatism that would continue the destruction of the aspirations of America’s working families, blindly hand President Obama the power to deal away American sovereignty and bypass Congress on a host issues from expanding immigration to “climate change,” the transformation of Paul Ryan from Jack Kemp-style optimistic conservative into one of those "establishment 'me-too' Republicans, those comfortable with a scaled-back version of the Democratic agenda," seems complete." Has Paul Ryan ever had a problem with the money spent on the Iraq war? Edited by foxglove, Jun 16 2015, 04:34 AM.



kbp	Jun 16 2015, 08:54 AM Post #52
Posts: 52,052 Group: Tier1 Member #20 Joined: Apr 28, 2008	We're still somewhat in the dark as to what all is in these bills. It just does not look good when Congress includes a jobs replacement effort before the jobs are lost in their secret bills. It is looking like BIG MONEY is flowing in to select hands and Barry is happy about solving the worldwide inequality problem ...his solutions always involves people relying upon the governments.



foxglove	Jun 16 2015, 08:58 AM Post #53
Posts: 6,542 Group: Tier1 Member #69 Joined: Apr 28, 2008	http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/pelosi-demands-highway-funding-bill-in-return-for-trade-support/article/2566168#! Pelosi demands highway funding bill in return for trade support



kbp	Jun 16 2015, 09:19 AM Post #54
Posts: 52,052 Group: Tier1 Member #20 Joined: Apr 28, 2008	foxglove Jun 16 2015, 08:58 AM http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/pelosi-demands-highway-funding-bill-in-return-for-trade-support/article/2566168#! Pelosi demands highway funding bill in return for trade support Quote: ...."The prospects for passage of a such a bill will greatly increase with the passage of a robust highway bill," she added... Is she saying the trade bill is okay if you plan to create more replacement jobs and also immediately create jobs? For some odd reason I envision any highway funding increase putting together more climate change friendly hiking & biking trails!



foxglove	Jun 16 2015, 09:30 AM Post #55
Posts: 6,542 Group: Tier1 Member #69 Joined: Apr 28, 2008	kbp Jun 16 2015, 08:54 AM We're still somewhat in the dark as to what all is in these bills. It just does not look good when Congress includes a jobs replacement effort before the jobs are lost in their secret bills. It is looking like BIG MONEY is flowing in to select hands and Barry is happy about solving the worldwide inequality problem ...his solutions always involves people relying upon the governments. http://www.ibtimes.com/lawmakers-slam-proposal-use-medicare-money-help-americans-who-lose-jobs-due-free-1933625 Lawmakers Slam Proposal To Use Medicare Money To Help Americans Who Lose Jobs Due To Free Trade Agreements "... The issue centers on the government’s Trade Adjustment Assistance (TAA) program, a 53-year-old program that helps Americans who lose their jobs because of trade deals with other countries. For example, an agricultural producer can receive subsidies if agricultural imports from trade-partner countries undercut its business. Eligible workers can win benefits through the TAA if their jobs are sent to countries with which the U.S. has free-trade agreements. Congress wants to boost funding to the TAA as it mulls giving President Barack Obama the authority he seeks to finalize the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) trade deal with 11 Pacific Rim countries. Rep. David Reichert, R-Wash., has proposed carving $700 million out of Medicare reimbursements -- the money the federal government provides doctors and hospitals for treating the elderly who often live in low, fixed incomes -- to help fund a $2.7 billion TAA extension. Though Republicans and many Democrats, including the president, support the TPP and believe it will create jobs by promoting U.S. exports, they accept that some parts of the U.S. economy will be undercut by cheap imports and jobs that migrate overseas...."



kbp	Jun 16 2015, 09:44 AM Post #56
Posts: 52,052 Group: Tier1 Member #20 Joined: Apr 28, 2008	A question is whether or not it would increase our trade deficit. As for the Medicare money, jobs lost reduces the funding Medicare receives. Makes you wonder if they see a greater growth in jobs? Either way, it is not good to steal money from the left hand to pay the right hand.



longstop	Jun 16 2015, 09:48 AM Post #57
longstop Posts: 7,608 Group: Tier1 Member #106 Joined: Apr 28, 2008	They can just speed up the printing presses I wonder if this stunt will damage the so called Republican party for the 2016 election cycle and beyond ? Edited by longstop, Jun 16 2015, 09:49 AM.



kbp	Jun 18 2015, 08:49 PM Post #58
Posts: 52,052 Group: Tier1 Member #20 Joined: Apr 28, 2008	We may get to learn what is in it ....after it passes. http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/house-revive-trade-deal-obama-119162.html?hp=rc1_4



LTC8K6	Jun 23 2015, 02:41 PM Post #59
Assistant to The Devil Himself Posts: 28,896 Group: Tier1 Member #15 Joined: Apr 28, 2008	http://thehill.com/policy/finance/245827-senate-advances-fast-track-trade-bill-for-obama Quote: The Senate on Tuesday voted to advance President Obama’s trade agenda, approving a measure to end debate on fast-track authority. The 60-37 motion sets up a vote on final passage on Wednesday. If the Senate approves fast-track or trade promotion authority (TPA), it would then be sent to Obama’s desk to become law. Fast-track authority would allow Obama to send trade deals to Congress for up-or-down votes. The White House wants the authority to conclude negotiations on a sweeping trans-Pacific trade deal. Thirteen Democrats backed fast-track in Tuesday’s vote, handing Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) a major legislative victory. Sen. Ben Cardin (D-Md.) voted against the procedural motion. The Democrats cast "yes" votes even though the trade package did not include a workers assistance program for people displaced by increased trade. The Trade Adjustment Assistance (TAA) program was a part of the last fast-track package approved by the Senate in May, but became a key part of opposition to the package among Democrats in the House. To move fast-track forward, the White House and GOP leaders in both chambers decided to break TAA away from fast-track and to try to approve both in separate votes. After the Senate votes Wednesday on final passage for fast-track, it will take a procedural vote on a package that includes TAA and trade preferences for African countries known as the African Growth and Opportunity Act (AGOA). McConnell has promised both bills, as well as a customs and enforcement bill favored by Democrats, will reach Obama’s desk by the end of the week. “If we all keep working together and trusting each other, then by the end of the week the President will have TPA, TAA and AGOA and Preferences on his desk — with Customs in the process of heading his way too,” he said on the floor. The House has already passed fast-track but it must still vote on the package including TAA, which faces opposition from conservatives. ...



longstop	Jun 28 2015, 06:57 PM Post #60
longstop Posts: 7,608 Group: Tier1 Member #106 Joined: Apr 28, 2008	Almost $200 Million Donated to Representatives to Pass TPA http://www.opednews.com/articles/Almost-200-Million-Donate-by-Paola-Casale-Banking_Congress_Control_Corporations-150620-523.html and http://thehill.com/homenews/house/246337-the-dozen-rebels-targeted-by-gop-leaders Edited by longstop, Jun 28 2015, 07:00 PM.



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