Obama's Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal

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Obama's Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal; What is he doing?
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kbp	Jun 12 2015, 08:01 AM Post #31
Posts: 52,052 Group: Tier1 Member #20 Joined: Apr 28, 2008	chatham Jun 11 2015, 09:46 PM The Chinese are telling Obama how to handle this and to pass it. Especially f we still want their money too keep us in the fake black. The Chinese are getting ready to make their currency the world currency. The are accumulating the gold to back it up. Looking past the factor of our involvement in world trade volume (more so as a consumer of late)... gold is one of two things that determine the strength of a currency. I believe the military strength used to provide security of other nations actually outweighs the importance of gold, but that military factor is diminishing under Barry's leadership!



longstop	Jun 12 2015, 08:07 AM Post #32
longstop Posts: 7,608 Group: Tier1 Member #106 Joined: Apr 28, 2008	Ted Cruz Channels Paul Ryan: ‘A Lot of Misinformation’ on Obamatrade That ‘You Can Get on the Internet’ http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/11/ted-cruz-channels-paul-ryan-a-lot-of-misinformation-on-obamatrade-that-you-can-get-on-the-internet/ The Republican primary pack starting to show their true colors :o(



kbp	Jun 12 2015, 08:09 AM Post #33
Posts: 52,052 Group: Tier1 Member #20 Joined: Apr 28, 2008	Baldo Jun 12 2015, 12:35 AM Blood In The Water: 34 Courageous Conservatives Wound Obamatrade On Way To Final House Vote A whopping 34 courageous conservative Republicans shocked the political world on Thursday by severely wounding—and nearly killing—Obamatrade on a purely procedural vote. The vote, which nearly failed and would have ended Obamatrade right there, was a necessary procedural hurdle—a rule—that was must-pass for Obamatrade to make its way to the House floor for final consideration on Friday. What’s more, the nearly successful effort to kill Obamatrade—which has been lobbied heavily for by House GOP leadership, particularly the program’s chief architect Ways and Means Committee chairman Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) means that there’s blood in the water around Obamatrade everywhere in the eleventh hour....snipped http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/11/blood-in-the-water-34-conservatives-wound-obamatrade-on-way-to-final-house-vote/ That's certainly a good sign.



kbp	Jun 12 2015, 08:14 AM Post #34
Posts: 52,052 Group: Tier1 Member #20 Joined: Apr 28, 2008	longstop Jun 12 2015, 08:07 AM Ted Cruz Channels Paul Ryan: ‘A Lot of Misinformation’ on Obamatrade That ‘You Can Get on the Internet’ http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/11/ted-cruz-channels-paul-ryan-a-lot-of-misinformation-on-obamatrade-that-you-can-get-on-the-internet/ The Republican primary pack starting to show their true colors :o( Then they can tell the people they represent exactly how it may benefit us, possibly concentrating mostly on how the separation of powers over the people is an obstacle where our participation in international trade is involved.



chatham	Jun 12 2015, 10:32 AM Post #35
Posts: 28,174 Group: Tier1 Member #308 Joined: May 2, 2008	longstop Jun 12 2015, 08:07 AM Ted Cruz Channels Paul Ryan: ‘A Lot of Misinformation’ on Obamatrade That ‘You Can Get on the Internet’ http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/11/ted-cruz-channels-paul-ryan-a-lot-of-misinformation-on-obamatrade-that-you-can-get-on-the-internet/ The Republican primary pack starting to show their true colors :o( If Cruz thinks it's so good why doesn't he make it public?



chatham	Jun 12 2015, 10:34 AM Post #36
Posts: 28,174 Group: Tier1 Member #308 Joined: May 2, 2008	A coding to drudge. Slowbama does not have the votes. Time for some serious bribery.



Baldo	Jun 12 2015, 12:09 PM Post #37
Posts: 59,988 Group: Global Moderators Member #45 Joined: Apr 28, 2008	If you want the truth you have to speak the truth and as long as you don't release the bill you can't have the truth. I am sure it is back room dealings, but sorry Politicians we are not stupid. Well maybe we are because we elected them.



chatham	Jun 12 2015, 12:46 PM Post #38
Posts: 28,174 Group: Tier1 Member #308 Joined: May 2, 2008	First vote concurring in portion of senate amendment comprising title II except section 212 defeated for trade adjustment assistance For 126 Against 302 Motion not adopted Edited by chatham, Jun 12 2015, 12:49 PM.



chatham	Jun 12 2015, 12:56 PM Post #39
Posts: 28,174 Group: Tier1 Member #308 Joined: May 2, 2008	Second vote. Concurring in portion of senate amendment preceding title II This gives congress the up or down vote Yea 219 Nay 211



chatham	Jun 12 2015, 01:01 PM Post #40
Posts: 28,174 Group: Tier1 Member #308 Joined: May 2, 2008	Boehner requested a reconsideration of the defeated portion of the trade authority bill.



chatham	Jun 12 2015, 01:04 PM Post #41
Posts: 28,174 Group: Tier1 Member #308 Joined: May 2, 2008	Third vote concurring in senate amendments with amendment is passing no problem. The senate TAA is not intact in the house and wl need some sort of compromise or be defeated.



Baldo	Jun 12 2015, 02:39 PM Post #42
Posts: 59,988 Group: Global Moderators Member #45 Joined: Apr 28, 2008	Good for Pelosi & Bah Humbug to Boehner The Bill has to go back to the Senate & the American Public has been awaken to the shenanigans Ryan looks like a TOTAL FOOL Dirty stinking DC. It will get to anybody, but not quite all today Again if it was so good they should let all of us read it. They won't!



Baldo	Jun 12 2015, 03:01 PM Post #43
Posts: 59,988 Group: Global Moderators Member #45 Joined: Apr 28, 2008	Obama Dealt Massive, Humiliating Defeat on Trade President Obama was handed a horrific defeat Friday in Congress as his own Party deserted him to thwart trade legislation for which he had personally lobbied and which he viewed as a keystone of his second term legacy. The vote, which was on a measure crucial to passage of the legislation, wasn’t even close, as the House rejected a trade adjustment assistance (TAA) package by 302-126. The final “fast track” bill probably cannot pass both houses of Congress without the TAA package – which would help workers displaced by trade. The House did pass the fast track bill after rejecting TAA. But now the legislation must go back to the Senate, and without TAA, it is unlikely to succeed there. It’s not clear what the future is for the trade bill or whether the House can pass TAA if it tries again. White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest today said the White House would continue to press Democrats for TAA. And in a rare departure from common practice, he commended House Speaker Boehner, saying it was important to “give credit where credit is due.” Only 40 Democrats backed TAA while 144 voted against it. On the GOP side, 158 Republicans voted “no” while 86 Republicans voted “yes,” according to The Hill. The result undermines the White House’s frequently lodged contention that Republicans opposed Obama solely because of politics or because they hate him. What it suggests, rather, is that he doesn’t spend enough time building relationships and creating IOUs on either side of the aisle. The president made a rare appearance on Capitol Hill Friday morning to implore Democrats to support the legislation. He reportedly asked them to “play it straight” on the TAA measure, which is exactly what they did not do. Instead, Democrats opposed TAA for the purpose of using the vote to sink prospects for the underlying fast track bill. A key moment came when House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi abandoned Obama and told the House she would vote against TAA. “I will be voting to slow down fast-track,” she said. “Today we have an opportunity to slow down. Whatever the deal is with other countries, we want a better deal for American workers.” http://www.whitehousedossier.com/2015/06/12/obama-dealt-massive-humiliating-defeat-trade/



longstop	Jun 12 2015, 03:48 PM Post #44
longstop Posts: 7,608 Group: Tier1 Member #106 Joined: Apr 28, 2008	Baldo Jun 12 2015, 02:39 PM Good for Pelosi & Bah Humbug to Boehner The Bill has to go back to the Senate & the American Public has been awaken to the shenanigans Ryan looks like a TOTAL FOOL Dirty stinking DC. It will get to anybody, but not quite all today Again if it was so good they should let all of us read it. They won't! The Republican primary field candidates who where pushing this secret bill will have to get cracking on serious damage control,although they have now shown their true colors. A lot of folk on various blogs have expressed acute disappointment towards those candidates who supported this bill.



Baldo	Jun 12 2015, 05:33 PM Post #45
Posts: 59,988 Group: Global Moderators Member #45 Joined: Apr 28, 2008	Jake Tapper CNN ✔ ‎@jaketapper House Democratic Rep #1 re: POTUS visit to Hill: "He was fine until he turned it at the end and became indignant and alienated some folks." "House Dem Rep #2: POTUS visit "absolutely" hurt the bill. "Democrats believe they often are taken granted and not appreciated" by POTUS." Of course the world revolves around himself. Edited by Baldo, Jun 12 2015, 05:36 PM.



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