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UVA Rape Story Collapses; Duke Lacrosse Redux
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Thursday, April 2, 2015

The Rolling Stone debacle doesn't prove 'rape culture,' it proves ours is a culture at war with young men

Last year, Rolling Stone, a national magazine with a big circulation, reported in great detail on a purported brutal "gang rape" that supposedly occurred at the University of Virginia. The "victim," called "Jackie," asked Rolling Stone, not to contact the alleged rapists to confirm the story, and Rolling Stone kowtowed to her. "Jackie" refused to report the story to police, and the school didn't care. It suspended fraternity activities anyway, without any investigation.

We all know how that turned out. "Jackie's" story was, in the words of the Washington Post, "a complete crock." The Post wrote: "Rolling Stone propagated a biased work built on a mix of naivete and advocacy." A police investigation subsequently found no evidence that Jackie was sexually assaulted. The friends cited in the Rolling Stone article told a different story of events on that night than what Rolling Stone had reported. Cathy Young explains: ". . . the evidence against ["Jackie"] is damning. It’s not simply that there was no party at Phi Kappa Psi, the fraternity named by Jackie, anywhere near the time when she said she was attacked. It’s not simply that her account changed from forced oral sex to vaginal rape and from five assailants to seven, or that her friends saw no sign of her injuries after the alleged assault. What clinches the case is the overwhelming proof that 'Drew,' Jackie’s date who supposedly orchestrated her rape, was Jackie’s own invention."

Despite all this, Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand said that "Jackie" should be beyond criticism. "Victim blaming or shining the spotlight on her for coming forward is not the right approach," Gillibrand said. It would be "inappropriate" to charge Jackie, she said. "One of the challenges with survivors of sexual trauma and rape is that they often don’t want to actually participate with law enforcement because they don’t think justice is possible. They don’t think they will be believed; they think they’ll be blamed."

On CNN, a legal analyst named Sunny Hostin clucked: ". . . the suggestion that ["Jackie"] just sort of made this entire thing up flies in the face of statistics." As if the facts of a serious allegation can be assessed on "statistics."

And of course, Jessica Valenti penned a thing called "Inconsistencies in Jackie's story do not mean that she wasn't raped at UVA."

A writer in a college newspaper topped them all: "Instead of tackling a major magazine for slacking on its job, the media criticized the testimony of a traumatized victim who is trying to live with the effects of her trauma." And: "Rape culture is a fundamental part of this investigation. Just because the police report could not find evidence does not discredit Jackie’s experience, and we need to use this case to spark discourse rather than use it as an example of a false rape claim."

We are in uncharted territory -- what can we say about people who mount defenses that don't bother to defend, and about "truth" where the facts don't matter? Like the kid who didn't do his homework but insists "the dog ate it," the explanations are worse than the original misdeed and confirm our worst suspicions. This is a culture where high profile rape case after case after case turn out to be lies, but people pretend the lies are as good as the truth. In case after case, we let them reduce our sons to vile caricature based on absurd, even pathetic, factual narratives that no sane person would believe in any other context. The real lesson of the Rolling Stone debacle is exactly opposite of the one Rolling Stone set out to teach with its bogus rape story. Instead of proving "rape culture," the fact that this story was written at all, published by a major magazine, and believed by so many is conclusive evidence that ours is a culture that has a serious problem with young men, indeed, with maleness itself.

The witch hunt against young men has been brewing at the University of Virginia for years. After all, it's the school where victim blaming is perfectly appropriate -- if its directed against men wrongly accused of rape. A few years ago, its student newspaper wrote this: ". . . there are simple ways for individuals to avoid compromising situations that could lead to false accusations of sexual misconduct. Drinking responsibly at parties and respecting personal boundaries when communicating digitally, for example, would be a good start." Imagine if the newspaper had written something similar about rape victims.

It's also the school where students accused of sexual assault are offered assistance--not to defend themselves against false claims but to deal with the fact that they are abusers.

It's also the school where a council of student leaders wants to have private rape trials.

In the wake of the hysteria ginned up by the Rolling Stone article, the UVA sorority sisters were ordered by their national chapters to stay home for a weekend when they usually party. The sorority sisters had a conniption because it finally dawned on them that the animating impulse of the "war on rape" is that men are predators (they are fine with that) and that women are the pathetic children of the federal government's "Its On Us" campaign who need daddy-surrogates to save them from the bad rapists. And here they thought they were strong, independent women!

Ironically, when students at the University of Virginia made a serious attempt to simulate a sexual assault trial, the students learned how difficult it is to arrive at the truth in that kind of case. It's much easier, and apparently a lot more satisfying for many, to assume that the accused is guilty by reason of penis.
Posted by COTWA at 4:45 PM
For months I have been calling this "The War Against Our Sons and Grandsons." The Left always has these cutesy phrases that resonate with the public. It's time to start using that tactic ourselves.

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Rolling Stone apologized and asked the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism to launch an outside investigation into the story. The college's full report will go live on the Columbia Journalism Review's website and on RollingStone.com at 8 p.m. EST on Sunday. On Monday, University of Virginia deans will hold a press conference, which will be livestreamed at 1 p.m. EST.

Charlottesville, Virginia, police said they could not find evidence that a rape occurred and are suspending their inquiry into the incident. The alleged victim, Jackie, refused to cooperate with authorities, but they say the case is not yet closed.
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Apr 3 2015, 11:33 AM
Rolling Stone apologized and asked the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism to launch an outside investigation into the story. The college's full report will go live on the Columbia Journalism Review's website and on RollingStone.com at 8 p.m. EST on Sunday. On Monday, University of Virginia deans will hold a press conference, which will be livestreamed at 1 p.m. EST.

Charlottesville, Virginia, police said they could not find evidence that a rape occurred and are suspending their inquiry into the incident. The alleged victim, Jackie, refused to cooperate with authorities, but they say the case is not yet closed.
The Chief of Police in Charlottesville is a blatant appeaser.

Think of all the resources the police wasted on a blatantly false
allegation of rape. ALL of the evidence shows that she lied about
being raped -- even her friends discount her story and say she
told them something different.

YET, this Chief of Police still gives her some credibility --
says he's not closing the investigation, just suspending it --
something may have happend to her -- and when asked if
she would be charged with making a false allegation of rape: "Absolutely not."

Sickening.
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http://www.newstribune.com/news/2015/apr/03/woman-says-she-made-allegations-against-ex-alabama/

Compare this with the (perhaps vindictive) pressure in Alabama where the police immediately slapped the accuser with a "false report charge" and arrested her when she recanted. They told her, if you recant, we will charge you. She recanted, they charged. In any event the football player was kicked off the team, and kicked out of school, with no chance of returning. If she truly inflicted the wounds on herself (and there is some evidence she did as she said she did as part of her recanting) and if the damage to her door was pre-existing (and there is some evidence it was), then this player was played. Because his girlfriend thought he was cheating on her. But the police/prosecutor don't necessarily believe her recantation.

So he remains charged, and she is now charged.
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http://www.poynter.org/news/mediawire/332175/on-sunday-night-well-get-that-review-of-rolling-stones-a-rape-on-campus/

On Sunday night, we’ll get that review of Rolling Stone’s ‘A Rape On Campus’

by Kristen Hare Published Apr. 3, 2015 8:46 am

Good morning and happy Friday. Here are 10 media stories.

An Easter night release

On Sunday night at 8 p.m. eastern, the Columbia University School of Journalism will release its review on Rolling Stone's "A Rape On Campus." The report will run online in Rolling Stone and the Columbia Journalism Review. On Monday at noon, a press conference is planned to discuss the report. (Poynter) | You can watch Monday's press conference live. (Columbia Journalism School) | Were restrictive FOIA laws the problem? "Nah, probably not. After all, the Charlottesville PD did tell Rolling Stone that detective J. Via was assigned to the case. That makes J. Via an obvious person to interview. Did Rolling Stone take that step? 'I checked with Det Via and his supervisor – no request was made prior to the publication of the article,' writes Charlottesville PD spokesman Steve Upman." (The Washington Post) | Last month, CNN asked Rolling Stone publisher Jann Wenner "whether he will be making any editorial changes at the magazine as a result of the review, Wenner said, 'Haven't read it so I have no comments to make.'" (CNN) | Previously: "Review of Rolling Stone's UVA rape story is long and damning." (Politico)
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How Rolling Stone's UVA rape story became a national issue
Posted: 2015-04-01 09:16:44

Updated: 2015-04-03 08:31:09


By Tom Kludt

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) - Rolling Stone magazine is braced for a report this weekend that could scar its reputation.

In a matter of weeks last fall, the magazine went from publishing a bombshell allegation about a gang rape in a University of Virginia fraternity house to apologizing and conceding that there were significant failures in its reporting.

The four-month long controversy over what -- if anything -- happened to the woman known only as "Jackie" will come to a conclusion this weekend when Columbia Journalism School releases the findings from an investigation into how Rolling Stone's reporters and editors allowed Jackie's unverified story to get into print.

Here's how we got there:

Rolling Stone published the story, which was authored by contributing editor Sabrina Rubin Erdely, on November 19, 2014. In the piece, Jackie recalled how a night at the Phi Kappa Psi fraternity in the fall of 2012 went horribly wrong. She told Erdely that she was invited to the fraternity by a junior identified in the article as "Drew." Jackie claimed she was eventually lured upstairs to a darkened room where seven men took turns raping her over the course of three hours.

The response to the Rolling Stone story was swift. Days after the story ran, UVA President Teresa Sullivan suspended all campus fraternities, and police in Charlottesville, Virginia, announced an investigation into the alleged sexual assault.

In a November 27, 2014 podcast interview on Slate, Erdely conceded that she did not speak to the accused frat members, but said that she reached out to Jackie's alleged attackers "in multiple ways." "They were kind of hard to get in touch with because [the fraternity's] contact page was pretty outdated," Erdely said. She said she eventually received an email from Phi Kappa Psi's "local president" and chatted with "their national guy, who's kind of their national crisis manager."

In an interview with the Washington Post a day later, Erdely wouldn't say if she knew the names of Jackie's alleged attackers, nor would she say if she approached "Drew" for comment. Erdely claimed her reticence was out of respect for Jackie, who she said was "very fearful of these men, in particular Drew."

The story quickly drew skeptics. Journalist and author Richard Bradley published a blog post on November 24, 2014 , saying he didn't buy Jackie's claims. "I'm not convinced that this gang rape actually happened," Bradley wrote. "Something about this story doesn't feel right."

Bradley said his skepticism stemmed from the anonymity of the central figures in the story: the attackers, the victim's friends who purportedly discouraged her from going to the police and Jackie herself.

A week later, Reason's Robby Soave wondered if the rape story was a "gigantic hoax" and questioned Erdely's failure to contact the frat suspects. "She should be able to confirm that she knows who the attackers are, shouldn't she? Again, we don't have to know who they are, but we should know that she knows—or else the story is just one long uncorroborated accusation," Soave wrote.

On December 1, 2014 Rolling Stone deputy managing editor Sean Woods confirmed that the magazine did not talk to the alleged attackers. "We could not reach them," Woods told the Washington Post.

Nevertheless, Woods claimed that the magazine "verified their existence" through conversations with Jackie's friends and said he's "satisfied that these guys exist and are real." Erdely told the Washington Post that she "corroborated every aspect of the story that I could," though she was unable to identify the alleged attackers.

On December 5, 2014, the Washington Post raised questions that the magazine was unable to answer. The newspaper published a story in which Phi Kappa Psi said it "did not have a date function or a social event during the weekend of September 28, 2012," when the rape allegedly occurred.

Some of Jackie's friends expressed doubts about her claims, telling the newspaper that her account of the attack had changed over time. Drew, it turned out, actually belonged to a different fraternity. He told the Washington Post that he never met Jackie nor had he ever taken her out on a date.

Jackie told the Washington Post that her account is true.

"It's my life. I have had to live with the fact that it happened — every day for the last two years," she said.

Within hours of the Washington Post's report, Rolling Stone published a note to its readers saying that the magazine had "misplaced" its trust in Jackie. That characterization prompted outrage, with many accusing the magazine of blaming the victim rather than owning up to its own failures. The line was soon pulled from the note, and Rolling Stone managing editor Will Dana took to Twitter to say that the "failure is on us -- not on her."

Dana said in the note that in preparing the original story, the magazine had "decided to honor [Jackie's] request not to contact the man who she claimed orchestrated the attack on her nor any of the men who she claimed participated in the attack for fear of retaliation against her."

Dana conceded that "new information" brought to light by the Washington Post and other news outlets highlighted "discrepancies in Jackie's account."

"We apologize to anyone who was affected by the story and we will continue to investigate the events of that evening," he wrote.

Rolling Stone turned to Columbia Journalism School in late-December to find out just what went wrong with its reporting and editing. Rolling Stone publisher Jann Wenner said that the magazine will publish the report as soon as Columbia completes it. The report will be released on Sunday night, and the findings will be published in both Rolling Stone and the Columbia Journalism Review.

Charlottesville police announced the findings of their own investigation on March 23, saying they found no "substantive basis" to support Jackie's claim that she was raped at the Phi Kappa Psi house. Police Chief Tim Longo qualified his remarks, however. "That doesn't mean that something terrible didn't happen to Jackie," he said at a press conference.

Longo said that Jackie did not provide police with a statement during the investigation.

Phi Kappa Psi issued a statement saying that it is "exploring its legal options to address the extensive damage caused by Rolling Stone -- damage both to the chapter and its members and to the very cause upon which the magazine was focused."

Read more: http://www.cbs3springfield.com/story/28714583/how-rolling-stones-uva-rape-story-became-a-national-issue#ixzz3WL3PKX9E
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Sexually Assaulted at UVA

By JENNY WILKINSON
April 4, 2015

IN 1997, I was sexually assaulted by a fellow student at the University of Virginia. At a closed hearing, the university’s committee on sexual assault found him responsible. His punishment? A letter in his file.

It’s not clear how many women have won their cases through the university’s system since they were first allowed to enroll as undergraduates in 1970. I am one of the women who won, but winning wasn’t really winning, was it?

The hearing on my case took place in March 1998, two months after a criminal trial that ended in disappointment and frustration for me when the judge dismissed the charge that the Commonwealth of Virginia had filed against my attacker.

The weak punishment meted out to the student whom the university found responsible for assaulting me doesn’t seem to have been unusual; as far as I know, no one has been expelled after being found responsible for sexual assault by the university. Compare this with the fate of the dozens of students, perhaps hundreds, who violated the school’s honor code, which deals with lying, cheating and stealing, during the same period. If you are found guilty of violating the honor code, there is only one sanction: expulsion.

Late last month in Charlottesville, the police suspended their investigation into an alleged gang rape at a University of Virginia fraternity house originally reported on by Rolling Stone, partly because the woman reported to be the victim declined to cooperate. The Rolling Stone article and her story have been called into question in many different forums. Some students have called for her expulsion and even prosecution. I am not alone in recognizing that all of this will result in fewer women and men coming forward to share their stories.

Like most survivors of sexual assault, I knew the man who attacked me. We met while working at the same restaurant, we had mutual friends and we had gone out before. The night it happened, a Friday in late January, he attended my sorority’s date function with me. Late in the evening, he brought me a drink, my fourth of the evening; I started to feel sick shortly thereafter. Back on a daybed in the living room of my apartment, he sexually assaulted me. I have never remembered all of the details from that night, but I do remember thinking that he was raping me and that I needed to get away. Finally I did just that, dragging myself into my bedroom.

After he left, one of my roommates, who had been sleeping in her bedroom down the hall, helped me call my parents, who lived in Richmond. When they arrived 45 minutes later, my father called 911 to report my assault. The police met us at the hospital around 6 a.m. on Saturday.

A police officer was present during my entire medical examination. A gynecological exam showed some evidence of trauma; a blood test documented a blood alcohol content of 0.13, over the legal limit for driving a car; a toxicology report revealed trace amounts of three benzodiazepines in my system, including Valium and Librium. After the examination, the police took my statement. My attacker was arrested later that morning, charged, and released on bail.

I haven’t spoken to him since. (When The New York Times contacted him in preparation for this article, he responded through his lawyer, who said that the accusation was false and that his client did not commit sexual assault. He also criticized the university hearing, saying it lacked the fairness of a judicial proceeding, and claimed that the author of this article told a different story at the hearing from the one she told at the criminal trial.)

I WENT back to class on Monday morning a different person, not only because I had been assaulted, but because I had chosen to speak to the police and deal with the consequences of that. Even surrounded by supportive friends, I felt as if there was a huge flashing arrow over my head. I felt as if everyone knew what had happened, even though in reality few people knew anything. I felt like a victim.

Over the next year and a half, I told the same story in a criminal courtroom and at a university hearing, but also in front of my sorority, in my apartment with my friends, and at home with my family. I became that girl, the one who had been assaulted. Somewhere along the way, in the repeated telling of my story, in listening to other women’s stories of sexual assault, I stopped feeling like a victim and started feeling like a survivor.

I had many supporters, but I also had many doubters, who pointed to the alcohol in my system and to the fact that I did not say no or fight back. I never doubted my decision to come forward because I knew that what happened to me was nonconsensual and violent. I naïvely believed that the system would work and that justice would be served.

In May 1997, after a preliminary hearing, a local grand jury formally indicted the man who sexually assaulted me. The commonwealth attorney in charge of prosecuting the case asked me to refrain from pursuing a complaint at the university until after the criminal trial. In January 1998, halfway through my third year, I took the stand as a witness in the criminal case. I sat in front of a judge, the jury and a courtroom packed with university students and locals, including my friends, some of his friends and fraternity brothers, as well as both of our families and a sexual assault education coordinator from the university’s women’s center, who was there to support me, not as a representative of the school.

My whole body shook as I testified. I was on the stand for a few hours, answering questions about how much alcohol I had drunk and whether or not I had been aroused during the assault. Responding to an archaic system that put my credibility on trial, the prosecutor had three character witnesses testify on my behalf. Experts were called to the stand to discuss the evidence, including my physical state and the presence of tranquilizing drugs in my system.

After the prosecution rested, the defense made a motion to strike the commonwealth’s case. The judge granted the motion, dismissing the charge. My attacker’s fraternity brothers cheered. The judge concluded that there wasn’t enough evidence to prove that the defendant knew that I was incapacitated and that he was acting against my will. The defense never had to call a single witness. The man who assaulted me walked away.

I was devastated, but resilient in the hope that some sort of justice could be found through the university’s system. Not long after the criminal case was dismissed, I received a letter from the chairman of the University Committee on Sexual Assault and Judicial Review, explaining how its hearing would operate. Law students were assigned as our representatives, which was ludicrous considering the seriousness of the allegation.

On March 22, 1998, a five-person panel of faculty, university staff members and current students heard evidence from both sides. It was chilling to hear, for the first time, my attacker’s account of what happened that night. In a standoffish way, he acted as if what had happened was no big deal; that I had encouraged him; that he had left my apartment that night planning to call me again in the future. The scene he described sounded nothing like the one I had experienced.

When the panel found him responsible for violating the standard of conduct that prohibited sexual assault of a university student, I felt alive; I felt vindicated; I felt that someone with power had finally listened and that everything was going to be O.K.

But it wasn’t O.K. His punishment, which was announced right after the panel’s decision, was that he would be reprimanded and censured and that a letter to this effect would be placed in his file until one year after he graduated that spring. He could get the letter removed if by the following spring he completed “a program of sexual assault education” chosen by the university’s sexual assault education coordinator.

Because of laws protecting student rights, I was told, the proceedings and the decision were confidential. In fact, in a crazy twist, I could have faced charges from the university if I had talked about them. I was effectively silenced by a university that failed to prioritize and protect me.

Throughout this time, my attacker’s life moved forward. In 1997, he was selected by his fraternity to live on the Lawn, in one of Thomas Jefferson’s original buildings, a privilege reserved for university leaders and outstanding citizens during their final year. When the committee found him responsible for sexual assault in March of his fourth year, the university allowed him to continue living in this place of honor. He would also be allowed to graduate without having to complete his sexual assault education. When the university conferred his degree, it handed over a diploma to a student who should have been expelled for attacking another student.

TRAINED as a veterinarian, I now teach equine science at the University of Vermont. Getting to know my students is important to me. I want them to know that I am here for them and that I will listen if they need me. I am thankful for the people at the University of Virginia who listened to me, including a wonderful professor who became a lifelong supporter and friend. I am thankful for the changes that have been made since I was a student, including allowing students to publicly disclose the outcome of complaints. I am thankful for my friends and family who gave me a place to act like a normal college student for a few minutes every day. I am thankful that I tried to make it right by speaking out. I will always be a sexual assault survivor, but I am thankful that this experience no longer defines me.

What frustrates me the most now, almost 20 years later, is how little has changed. Students are still being assaulted at alarming rates. According to a study conducted for the Department of Justice in 2007, about one in seven undergraduate women is sexually assaulted during college. A report by the Bureau of Justice Statistics shows that nationally 35 percent of rapes and sexual assaults were reported to the police in 2010; on college campuses, this number drops to 5 percent. A small percentage of sexual assaults are prosecuted in criminal court and an even smaller number of these cases result in a conviction.

What will it take to bring about real change?

In the late 1990s, I followed the rules, spoke up and fought for a place within both the criminal and university systems, but found no justice in either. The university listened and believed me, but did nothing about it other than a meaningless letter in a long forgotten file. They didn’t care that I had to walk past my attacker’s Lawn room on the way to class, that I felt physically sick when I saw him on the grounds.

Many people believe that university sexual assault hearings are fatally flawed, and that these cases should be handled by criminal courts. Despite my experience at the University of Virginia, I disagree. The burden of proof in a criminal trial is often unattainable in typical sexual assault cases, where the assault occurs between people who know each other, in private quarters with no witnesses, often with alcohol involved. Many colleges, including the University of Virginia, use definitions of sexual assault that differ from those of the legal jurisdictions of which they are a part. The burden of proof on college campuses, typically framed as a preponderance of evidence, is more realistic.

The punishment for a guilty verdict in a criminal setting is jail time; the punishment for being held “responsible” on a college campus should be expulsion.

Around 100 higher education institutions, including the University of Virginia, are under investigation by the Department of Education’s Office for Civil Rights for possible Title IX sexual violence violations, including how these schools handle sexual assault complaints. Aware of the need to make improvements, the University of Virginia has recently released an interim policy, including changes in how it investigates and decides cases of sexual assault. I applaud these efforts, but I am frustrated by the wide range of sanctions still available and by the insinuation that only cases that are “egregious in nature” are worthy of suspension or expulsion.

Some changes have already taken place, not only at the University of Virginia but throughout the country. At a minimum, though, we need victim-friendly proceedings, including administrators who encourage students to file reports; trained legal representatives, investigators and panel members; and rules that allow students to bring in outside support. Victim-sensitive punishments, explicitly expulsion, would allow survivors to walk around campus without fear of running into their attackers. With these changes, university proceedings could actually make a difference by getting predators off campus and into the hands of family members and friends who can find them the help they need.

Had the University of Virginia followed its determination that my attacker was responsible with an appropriate consequence like expulsion, I would have felt justice had been served and could have continued my college years feeling safe, protected and valued as a member of the community. As it is, I’m left to hope that my story, added to our current national dialogue on sexual assault, will help colleges and universities come up with a better way to deal with a problem that hasn’t gone away.

Jenny Wilkinson is a veterinarian and a lecturer in equine science at the University of Vermont.
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"Like most survivors of sexual assault, I knew the man who attacked me. We met while working at the same restaurant, we had mutual friends and we had gone out before. The night it happened, a Friday in late January, he attended my sorority’s date function with me. Late in the evening, he brought me a drink, my fourth of the evening; I started to feel sick shortly thereafter. Back on a daybed in the living room of my apartment, he sexually assaulted me. I have never remembered all of the details from that night, but I do remember thinking that he was raping me and that I needed to get away. Finally I did just that, dragging myself into my bedroom."

Drunk, never said "no!", can't remember most of the evening...but it's all on him.

Somebody explain the "fear" from drunken sex like this? Was she burned with cigarettes like my friend....was she cut with a penknife on her breasts and stomach? Was her head smashed against a rock until she was barely concious?

Gee, I missed that part. She was sloppy drunk, never said no...had sex she didn't like ...and THAT was a horror she can't get over? :think: :puk: :puk:
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An interesting detail. How did the tranquilizers get into her system? Not one tranquilizer, but three at once. And she does NOT claim that she did not take them herself. She seems to be implying that the guy had spiked her drink, but this seems highly unlikely.

An unpleasant woman, and probably a lousy vet. Do not let her treat your dog.
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To be blunt there is a lot of horse-sh*t being taught young women in college. It seems some don't understand the most basic aspects of sexual urges, temptation, and consequences. Some certainly don't understand modesty and why it has always been urged in eastern & western civilization.

Word Origin and History for modesty

n. 1530s, "freedom from exaggeration, self-control," from Middle French modestie or directly from Latin modestia "moderation, sense of honor, correctness of conduct," from modestus "moderate, keeping measure, sober, gentle, temperate," from modus "measure, manner" (see mode (n.1)). Meaning "quality of having a moderate opinion of oneself" is from 1550s; that of "womanly propriety" is from 1560s.
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You just can't go to parties and drink to excess, dress in overt sexuality, and expect respectful treatment from many young men who are themselves lacking in self-control. That is just how it works. It has been that way for a long time & will be in the future. It is ignorant to think otherwise.

If there is a lawsuit guess who will be subpoenaed? The girl who made the charges & wanted it to be kept anonymously. You can't have it both ways. Plus Rolling Stone Management, Editors, fact-checkers, U of V personnel, Police, and a myriad of her friends. It will be quite the show.
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Rolling Stone Awaits Review Of Debunked UVA Gang Rape Story

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Posted: 04/04/2015 4:34



WASHINGTON, April 4 - A Columbia University review of a now-discredited Rolling Stone story about an alleged gang rape at a University of Virginia fraternity is due out on Sunday, addressing the questions of journalistic ethics raised by the provocative article.

Rolling Stone commissioned the review after backtracking on the story, "A Rape on Campus," which caused an uproar over the issue of campus sexual assault when it was published in November. But discrepancies in the story soon surfaced, and the magazine was forced to retract it.

The story's autopsy could lead to a shakeup at Rolling Stone, founded in 1967 by editor Jann Wenner. The magazine, best known for its pop music coverage, was a pioneer in the "New Journalism" of the 1960s and '70s, an approach characterized by a reporter's immersion in the subject matter.

If the report is highly critical, it "will have an enormous impact on Rolling Stone. It's going to affect the credibility of Rolling Stone going forward, period," said Stuart Benjamin, a Duke University Law School professor.

Columbia University's Graduate School of Journalism will release its report at 8 p.m. (0000 GMT) on Sunday, with a news conference at 12 p.m. (1600 GMT) on Monday. Dean Steve Coll, a Pulitzer Prize-winning author, headed the review.

The findings will appear on Rolling Stone's website, RollingStone.com, and the website of the Columbia Journalism Review, cjr.org.


JACKIE'S STORY

The 9,000-word article described a Sept. 28, 2012, gang rape of a University of Virginia first-year student, identified by her real first name, Jackie, allegedly during a pledge party at Phi Kappa Psi fraternity.

The article written by Sabrina Rubin Erdely accused the Charlottesville school, the 21,000-student flagship of the Virginia state university system, of tolerating a culture that ignored sexual violence against women. It raised deep concern and national soul-searching about sexual assault at U.S. campuses in general.

After its publication, the school suspended fraternity and sorority activities and enacted more safety measures, and Governor Terry McAuliffe urged a review of policies at the school.

But Phi Kappa Psi rebutted key parts of the article, and the Washington Post reported that Rolling Stone had not checked out the rape claim with any of the accused. In December, Rolling Stone apologized, citing "discrepancies" in Jackie's account.

Charlottesville police said last month they had found no evidence to back up the story, citing numerous inconsistencies. Jackie declined to give police a statement or answer their questions.

Benjamin, the Duke law professor, said it was doubtful Rolling Stone would face any lawsuit for libel since no one had been identified by name as an attacker.

Fraternities and sororities, social clubs at many U.S. colleges, often have their own housing and are known as the Greek system.

As a public entity, the university is barred from suing. Both the campus chapter and national organization of Phi Kappa Psi also could be too large as groups to claim libel damages, he said.

A suit by Phi Kappa Psi could lead to a potentially damaging "fishing expedition" by lawyers into the fraternity. Rolling Stone's reputation also is likely to be damaged anyway if the Columbia review is damning, he said.

But Bruce Sanford, a Washington media lawyer with the firm of BakerHostetler, said hefty settlements arising from false accusations of rape against Duke lacrosse players in 2006 showed that the fraternity could potentially file a lawsuit.

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"The parallels are clear enough that they should worry Rolling Stone considerably, if they're not worried already," he said.


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UVa student unravels Rolling Stone rape story UVa student unravels Rolling Stone rape story

By Katie Brinn

On April 5, Columbia's Graduate School of Journalism will release its review of the discredited Rolling Stone article, "A Rape on Campus."

This follows the March 23 announcement by Charlottesville, Va., Police Chief Timothy Longo, stating that there was no evidence to support the shocking story of an alleged gang rape at the University of Virginia, published by the magazine last fall. Ryan Duffin, a UVA student featured in the article under the alias “Randall” said he was not surprised, because he already knew the blockbuster article by Sabrina Rubin Erdely did not reflect the truth, as he experienced it firsthand.

The Nov. 19 article focused on an alleged victim, identified only by her first name, “Jackie,” and her harrowing tale of a violent gang rape by seven men at a University of Virginia fraternity house. But in the days after the story broke, the details began to unravel.

Duffin, whom Jackie called to come to her aid in the moments after the alleged attack, was one of the first to raise a red flag. The article portrayed him as dismissive of Jackie’s horrific experience, but in an interview with Yahoo Global News Anchor Katie Couric, Duffin says that account is far from the truth.

“The first response that I had when she told me [about the attack] was that I wanted to go to the police immediately with it,” he says. But Jackie wasn’t ready to alert the authorities, or go to the hospital, yet.

Duffin and Jackie had met shortly after they both arrived at the UVA campus their freshman year. He says Jackie expressed interest in him, but those feelings were not mutual, “I also made it clear that it was not reciprocated,” he said, “but I was still happy being friends with her.”

Duffin says it wasn’t long after that Jackie told him about a student in her chemistry class, Haven Monahan, who had shown interest in her. She asked Duffin and another friend to vet Haven. Jackie provided them with phone numbers that she said belonged to the third-year student and asked them to text him. Duffin later discovered that those numbers were tied to an anonymous online texting service and were not linked to anyone named Haven Monahan.

“The conversation for both me and the mutual friend, when we were speaking to Haven, very quickly turned into a conversation about how much Haven cared about Jackie,” Duffin recalls, so he and the friend gave Jackie their blessing to go on the date.

It was on that date, Jackie would later claim, that Monahan orchestrated a vicious sexual assault that left her physically and emotionally scarred.

But for Duffin, the story took an even more bizarre turn five days after the alleged attack, when he received an email from someone claiming to be Monahan. “The subject line said ‘About You,’” Duffin says, “And the text of the email said, ‘You really should read this. I’ve never read anything nicer in my life.’”

It was a letter that Jackie had allegedly written, gushing about Duffin and revealing her deep feelings for him.

“I decided to search online on UVA’s people directory to see if I got any hits for Haven Monahan,” Duffin recounts. There was no Haven Monahan in UVA’s records. But it wasn’t until the Rolling Stone article put Jackie’s story under a microscope that investigators discovered that Haven Monahan never existed at all.

Now, more than three years after the alleged attack, there are still unanswered questions about that night. “It’s still so convincing, the emotional response that she had,” Duffin says, “that it’s difficult to think that nothing happened.”

Watch Yahoo Global News Anchor Katie Couric's full interview with Ryan Duffin, Alex Pinkleton, Liz Seccuro, and Police Chief Timothy Longo.
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Rolling Stone publisher reflects on iconic publication ahead of UVa story review

BY DAVE CANTOR dcantor@dailyprogress.com | 978-7248 | Posted: Saturday, April 4, 2015 5:28 pm

Jann S. Wenner was 20 when he walked off the campus of the University of California, Berkeley almost a half-century ago to launch what would become an iconic publication.

Having guided Rolling Stone from what his website describes as “a quirky rock-music-oriented biweekly” to an institution, Wenner now faces the prospect of battling to restore the magazine’s credibility.

At 8 p.m. Sunday, the Columbia Journalism School will release a report on the magazine’s work on a discredited story about gang rape at the University of Virginia. Wenner, the magazine’s publisher, commissioned the report, which will be published on Rolling Stone’s website, as well as the Columbia Journalism Review’s.

He said the document will be “soberly” presented, and he’s braced for a new wave of criticism that’s likely to follow.

“I listen to it; try not to be pissed off and try my best to learn from it,” Wenner wrote in an email when asked about dealing with fallout from the story. “It’s usually pretty helpful.”

He declined to comment on the report but said of the story: “I read it once when it was in” before its release online Nov. 19.

The 9,000-word piece graphically describing a woman being attacked by seven men at a fraternity house sent UVa into an uproar, drew headlines across the country, then crumbled under scrutiny. Sabrina Rubin Erdely, the contributing editor who authored the story, failed to corroborate the account, relying instead solely on the tale of a woman named “Jackie,” who said she been raped in 2012 at Phi Kappa Psi.

Fraternity representatives have said legal action against the magazine is being considered and the report will be closely watched.

The magazine’s current difficulties are in stark contrast to Rolling Stone’s meteoric rise following its 1967 founding.

Rolling Stone quickly became regarded as a significant voice amid the brash counterculture of the day with Wenner leading the charge, writing about, working with and befriending a litany of iconic 20th century figures.

His media empire has expanded since those early days in San Francisco to include Us Weekly and Men’s Journal under his Wenner Media banner. But Rolling Stone remains a marquee publication, having grown along with the baby boomer generation to which it initially catered.

“Everything’s evolved — the magazine has evolved ahead of it,” he said over the phone from his Manhattan office, about 10 blocks south of Central Park. “It’s become deeper and more sophisticated and informed. But that’s what happens over a 50-year period.”

A look at the magazine’s legendary covers provides a glimpse of its widening breadth — Bob Dylan, Jerry Garcia and Pete Townsend appear on early editions, but later, among the usual assortment of musicians and movie stars, there are presidents, including Bill Clinton and Barack Obama, the latter appearing six times.

The Aug. 1, 2013, edition featured Boston Marathon bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, riling critics who said his dreamy expression on the cover photo exhibited sympathy from the magazine for a man accused in an attack that killed three people and injured 264 others.

It was far from the last time Rolling Stone took a provocative look at a serious topic. Several months before Erdely’s “A Rape on Campus,” there was a piece examining the rise of the Koch brothers, Charles and David, the billionaires driving the tea party movement.

In 2010, there was the story headlined “The Runaway General,” on Stanley McChrystal, the commander of U.S. forces in Afghanistan. Remarks by aides in the story depicted McChrystal as critical of Obama and led to the general’s resignation and subsequent retirement from the Army.

“The magazine’s been a look at American culture, politics and art,” Wenner said. “Our values remain the same. Our coverage is diverse as ever, and we bring more sophisticated tools to the table.”

While its reach has expanded, Rolling Stone has retained its countercultural bent, producing journalistic turns that differ from the norm. The idea, Wenner said, is to reflect news and the world through a rock ‘n’ roll mindset.

That perspective’s perhaps the reason the magazine published writers associated with a new take on journalism during the ‘60s and ‘70s, including Hunter S. Thompson and Virginia native Tom Wolfe, who occasionally toyed with reality.

“Rolling Stone has such a long and renowned place as a magazine,” said Patti Wolter, associate professor at the Medill School of Journalism at Northwestern University, “that [it] can appeal to and follow the pop culture landscape, while using that to do good reporting.”

Still, for all the inroads the magazine has carved out of the culture, critics of Erdely’s story have said it signaled a step back for victims of sexual assault.

Many do not report rapes and other crimes against them, and now that “Jackie’s” tale has been publicly shredded — a four-month Charlottesville police investigation dismantled her claims — other victims might stay silent, said Becky Weybright, executive director of the Sexual Assault Resource Agency in Charlottesville.

“People don’t believe survivors in a lot of circumstances, so with the story and the way it was handled, I think it’s made it harder for survivors to be believed,” Weybright said. “And it could potentially keep survivors from coming forward.”

While the cultural stigma around sexual assault hasn’t changed because of the story, Weybright said, there still might be a benefit to the issue’s newfound attention.

“I think there are a lot of people who’ve discussed this at dinner tables and meetings who had never talked about this issue before,” she said. “Sexual assault is tough for people to talk about and people don’t talk about it. And it’s [become] a mainstream discussion in a lot of ways.”

That silver lining is unlikely to be visible in the pages of Columbia’s report, which is expected to be damning. Still, Wenner said, he is ready.

“I have had a lot [of criticism],” he said, “and know how to handle it.”
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Apr 4 2015, 04:59 PM
"Like most survivors of sexual assault, I knew the man who attacked me. We met while working at the same restaurant, we had mutual friends and we had gone out before. The night it happened, a Friday in late January, he attended my sorority’s date function with me. Late in the evening, he brought me a drink, my fourth of the evening; I started to feel sick shortly thereafter. Back on a daybed in the living room of my apartment, he sexually assaulted me. I have never remembered all of the details from that night, but I do remember thinking that he was raping me and that I needed to get away. Finally I did just that, dragging myself into my bedroom."

Drunk, never said "no!", can't remember most of the evening...but it's all on him.

Somebody explain the "fear" from drunken sex like this? Was she burned with cigarettes like my friend....was she cut with a penknife on her breasts and stomach? Was her head smashed against a rock until she was barely concious?

Gee, I missed that part. She was sloppy drunk, never said no...had sex she didn't like ...and THAT was a horror she can't get over? :think: :puk: :puk:
And "assault" is a meaninglessly vague word with which to define a lifetime of victimhood.
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Well said, dear Payback.

These Universities need a course in Contemporary Rural Music Expression 101.....Starting with the classic..."Tequila Makes Her Clothes Fall Off."



http://www.vevo.com/watch/joe-nichols/Tequila-Makes-Her-Clothes-Fall-Off/USUV70500934
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