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Did UVA Student Plagiarize ‘Dawson’s Creek’ In Love Letter To Friend?
5:36 PM 12/18/2014

Chuck Ross
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The story of Jackie, the University of Virginia student at the center of a discredited Rolling Stone article, only gets weirder.

An email likely sent by Jackie to a friend of hers who she was romantically interested in appears to be plagiarized from an episode of Dawson’s Creek, a popular television show which ran from 1998 to 2003 on The WB.

A friend of Jackie’s, a UVA freshman named Ryan Duffin, received an email on Oct. 3, 2012 from a person he knew as Haven Monahan.

This was five days after Jackie claimed she was forced to give oral sex to five men after she went on a date with Monahan. Monahan is now believed to have never existed. His fabrication is one of many inconsistencies in Jackie’s story. In the Rolling Stone article, she claimed she was brutally gang-raped by seven members of Phi Kappa Psi fraternity. (RELATED: Here Is What UVA Student Jackie Wrote In Email To Friend She Liked)

The email, sent from Haven Monahan’s email address to Duffin’s university email account, reads:

Ryan is fine. Ryan’s great, actually. I mean he’s smart. He’s attractive. He’s funny. He’s a scaredy cat. If you creep up behind him, he’ll jump right out of his skin. It’s pretty amusing. He’s honest. He always calls them just like he sees them. You can constantly count on getting the truth from Ryan, even if the truth hurts. He has the most incredible taste in music. He’s like this walking, talking music library. And he understands how truly important music is. He’s stubborn. He has this regimented way about him that can be so frustrating sometimes. And sometimes the things he says hurt. But he’s a really, really good friend. And loyal to a fault. He’s realistic about everything. And I’m a dreamer so I mean, it’s good to have somebody like that in my life. He’s one of my best friends here, you know? He’s more than that…he’s everything.

That letter is almost identical — with a few grammatical tweaks and name changes — to the script of a scene from Dawson’s Creek in which Dawson, played by James Van Der Beek, expressed his love for Joey, played by Katie Holmes.

She’s great. I mean, she’s smart, she’s beautiful, she’s funny, she’s a big ol’ scaredy cat. If you creep up from behind her she’ll jump out of her skin. It’s pretty amusing. She’s honest. She always calls them just like she sees them. You can always count on getting the truth from Joey even if the truth hurts. She’s stubborn. We fight a lot. She can be so frustrating sometimes. But she’s a really, really, good friend. I know her to a fault. She believes in me. And I’m a dreamer so it’s so good to have somebody like that in my life. If she goes away, I don’t know what I’m going to do. I mean, she’s my best friend, you know? She’s more than that. She’s everything.

This is all reminiscent of an episode from the popular TV show Seinfeld, in which a woman who main character Jerry Seinfeld had broken up with wrote a letter convincing him to take her back. Seinfeld later found out that his girlfriend plagiarized the letter from a Neil Simon play called Chapter Two.

(h/t Kimberly Leonard)
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"An email likely sent by Jackie ..."

The hoax that keeps on giving.
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At this time I believe little of what Jacki said. It is clearly a Hoax and/or a mentally deranged girl. It sort of seems planned and the Trolling Stone Reporter looks like a real fool.

Almost like a project to pull the wool over the eyes of the media for some purpose.
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Did UVA Student Plagiarize ‘Dawson’s Creek’ In Love Letter To Friend?


Nonsense. Women never lie about rape.

And besides, who cares if Jackie lied or not? And who cares about the fraternity or its members? The real issue here is that one in five campus co-eds will be raped. College men are sub-human. Let's not lose our focus.

:SarC:
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Transcript:


Mr. Potter: Dawson wait please. Tell me about her. Tell me about my daughter.

Dawson: What do you want to know?

Mr.Potter: Anything, everything.

Dawson: She's great. I mean, she's smart, she's beautiful, she's funny, she's a big ol' scaredy cat. If you creep up from behind her she'll jump out of her skin. It's pretty amusing. She's honest. She always calls them just like she sees them. You can always count on getting the truth from Joey even if the truth hurts. She's stubborn. We fight a lot. She can be so frustrating sometimes. But she's a really, really, good friend. I know her to a fault. She believes in me. And I'm a dreamer so it's so good to have somebody like that in my life. If she goes away, I don't know what I'm going to do. I mean, she's my best friend, you know? She's more than that. She's everything.

*CUT TO later on the dock*

Joey: Okay, whats your deal?

Dawson: What do you mean?

Joey: You haven't said one word the entire bus ride home. I mean, if anyone should be brooding it's me. Talk to me Dawson. What did he say?

Dawson: He asked a lot of questions about you. He misses you. He loves you. You shouldn't have left.

http://www.waynekao.com/dawsonsdvd/t1-13b.html

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It seems like each day this story gets even weirder.

Sullivan, Erdley, and Rolling Stone must like the taste of the egg that is dripping from their faces.
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Dec 18 2014, 10:34 PM
It seems like each day this story gets even weirder.

Sullivan, Erdley, and Rolling Stone must like the taste of the egg that is dripping from their faces.
I did not expect to be wheezing with laughter this late in the day.
I wonder if Jackie's parents are wondering if their daughter has achieved enough fame yet.
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MikeZPU

But don't doubt for a minute that Erdley will try and write a new piece
where "something happened to Jackie" and arguing that the essence of
her original piece is still spot on.

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There's a Board of Visitors meeting today. Wonder if any of them will have the stones to ask Sullivan what she was thinking.

http://www.virginia.edu/bov/upmeeting.html

http://www.virginia.edu/bov/meetings/14Dec-full%20board%20meeting/Overview%20of%20Title%20IX%20and%20Clery%20Act.pdf

http://www.virginia.edu/bov/meetings/14Dec-full%20board%20meeting/Full%20Board%20Book%20-%20December%2019,%202014.pdf
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Joan Foster

Here's what I'm thinking this AM. Would you pay $200,000 plus to have your teenaged impressionable child or grandchild endoctrinated by the Occupy Wall Street crowd for 4 long years? Because that is essentially what is being done all overAmerica.

"it's okay to HATE Republicans"...."Women never lie about rape"....the outrage over "ALL lives matter" that required an apology...these are not outliers anymore. Duke and the rest of them are Endoctrination Camps.

We are so PROUD when are son or daughter is admitted, aren't we? Then,they emerge, full of hate for their country, our police, and military...head full of fecal matter drilled into them every day by Feminists and Anarchists and Racists.

Nothing will be said at this Board meeting today. It takes two things to get in these Boarc of Regents...money and the same progressive mindset.
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Dec 17 2014, 05:32 PM
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Dec 17 2014, 05:04 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2014/12/17/taibbi-rolling-stone-devastated-by-u-va-disaster/

Taibbi: Rolling Stone ‘devastated’ by U-Va. disaster
By Erik Wemple December 17 at 1:19 PM


That response aligns with what Sabrina Rubin Erdely, writer of “A Rape on Campus,” told the Washington Post when her story started to come under scrutiny: “[T]he gang-rape scene that leads the story is the alarming account that Jackie — a person whom I found to be credible — told to me, told her friends, and importantly, what she told the UVA administration, which chose not to act on her allegations in any way — i.e., the overarching point of the article. THAT is the story: the culture that greeted her and so many other UVA women I interviewed, who came forward with allegations, only to be met with indifference.”
And here I thought False Accusation was the Story.
article from Abb concludes with:
 
After host Don Imus opined that the article may have been driven by an “agenda,” Taibbi said that on his first read, he skipped right to the “more important part” of the story — how the University of Virginia responded to the alleged seven-man gang rape of September 2012. “Obviously individual attacks happen, or maybe in this case they don’t happen, I don’t know, but I don’t think that’s necessarily relevant to the larger issue of how often this takes place and how society is set up to deal with it.”

That response aligns with what Sabrina Rubin Erdely, writer of “A Rape on Campus,” told the Washington Post when her story started to come under scrutiny: “[T]he gang-rape scene that leads the story is the alarming account that Jackie — a person whom I found to be credible — told to me, told her friends, and importantly, what she told the UVA administration, which chose not to act on her allegations in any way — i.e., the overarching point of the article. THAT is the story: the culture that greeted her and so many other UVA women I interviewed, who came forward with allegations, only to be met with indifference.”


... the “more important part” ..." relevant to the larger issue of how often this takes place and how society is set up to deal with it.” ...THAT is the story: the culture that greeted her and so many other UVA women I interviewed, who came forward with allegations.

An obviously False Accusation appears to get more headlines ("conversation") than an actual crime would.

Would it surprise you if Jackie went on a speaking tour, maybe teamed up with Fluke and Pajama Boy, while Erdely was hired to work on the PR staff at the WH?
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Dec 19 2014, 04:14 AM
There's a Board of Visitors meeting today. Wonder if any of them will have the stones to ask Sullivan what she was thinking.

I think they tried once before and it didn't take. But, there's a petition on Change.org petition to remove her. So sayeth the Washington Times.

Walt-in-Durham
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There ARE a few schools where such nonsense is not the norm......and there are those professors who still have the common sense with which they were born. But I do think that the number is decreasing.



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Quasimodo

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Nothing will be said at this Board meeting today. It takes two things to get in these Boarc of Regents...money and the same progressive mindset.


Email sent to the secretary of the Board of Visitors:

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Hi,

Will you please copy me the statement of apology the Board makes to the members of the Phi Kappa Psi fraternity; and its statement
on combating false accusations?

Thanks.

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Joan Foster
Dec 19 2014, 07:38 AM
Here's what I'm thinking this AM. Would you pay $200,000 plus to have your teenaged impressionable child or grandchild endoctrinated by the Occupy Wall Street crowd for 4 long years? Because that is essentially what is being done all overAmerica.

"it's okay to HATE Republicans"...."Women never lie about rape"....the outrage over "ALL lives matter" that required an apology...these are not outliers anymore. Duke and the rest of them are Endoctrination Camps.

We are so PROUD when are son or daughter is admitted, aren't we? Then,they emerge, full of hate for their country, our police, and military...head full of fecal matter drilled into them every day by Feminists and Anarchists and Racists.

Nothing will be said at this Board meeting today. It takes two things to get in these Boarc of Regents...money and the same progressive mindset.
It's just sickening, because they know they can treat some subset of the
students very badly -- always the "white, privileged males" -- and get away
with it, because so many high school grads want to get accepted there --
it doesn't really hurt them.

But, as you said, can you imagine that you are the parents of a great son,
who just happens to be caucasian, and possibly plays a sport, and you pay
a school like UVA or Duke something like $60K per year, but they would throw
your son to the wolves in a heartbeat if it was politically expedient!!!
Edited by MikeZPU, Dec 19 2014, 11:12 AM.
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