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Dec 16 2014, 02:28 PM
Is the Rolling Stone hoping to clarify what was written?
I think they're at the point now where Nifong was: "We're f****d!!" They don't have a clue what to do.
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Why Hasn't Rolling Stone Fully Retracted Its Gang Rape Story Yet?

Robby Soave|Dec. 16, 2014 9:15 am


UVAUVA / Karen BlahaRolling Stone has admitted that Sabrina Rubin Erdely's story, "A Rape on Campus," contains enough inaccuracies to render the narrative's central allegation effectively false. The editor's note that precedes the article is now more than 600 words long; it concedes—over and over again—that Jackie's narrative as printed in the story is untrue, that key players and events either don't exist or didn't take place, and that multiple on-record sources dispute Erdely's reporting.

Why on earth has the story not been fully retracted yet?

Here is what the editor's note—which is constantly evolving to provide an up-to-date record of the story's thorough debunking—now claims:

Last month, Rolling Stone published a story entitled A Rape on Campus, which described a brutal gang rape of a woman named Jackie during a party at a University of Virginia fraternity house, the University's failure to respond to this alleged assault – and the school's troubling history of indifference to many other instances of alleged sexual assaults. The story generated worldwide headlines and much soul-searching at UVA. University president Teresa Sullivan promised a full investigation and also to examine the way the school investigates sexual assault allegations.

Because of the sensitive nature of Jackie's story, we decided to honor her request not to contact the man who she claimed orchestrated the attack on her nor any of the men who she claimed participated in the attack for fear of retaliation against her. In the months Sabrina Rubin Erdely reported the story, Jackie said or did nothing that made her, or Rolling Stone's editors and fact-checkers, question her credibility. Jackie’s friends and rape activists on campus strongly supported her account. She had spoken of the assault in campus forums. We reached out to both the local branch and the national leadership of Phi Psi, the fraternity where Jackie said she was attacked. They responded that they couldn’t confirm or deny her story but that they had questions about the evidence.

In the face of new information reported by the Washington Post and other news outlets, there now appear to be discrepancies in Jackie's account. The fraternity has issued a formal statement denying the assault and asserting that there was no "date function or formal event" on the night in question. Jackie herself is now unsure if the man she says lured her into the room where the rape occurred, identified in the story as "Drew," was a Phi Psi brother. According to the Washington Post, "Drew" actually belongs to a different fraternity and when contacted by the paper, he denied knowing Jackie. Jackie told Rolling Stone that after she was assaulted, she ran into "Drew" at a UVA pool where they both worked as lifeguards. In its statement, Phi Psi says none of its members worked at the pool in the fall of 2012. A friend of Jackie’s (who we were told would not speak to Rolling Stone) told the Washington Post that he found Jackie that night a mile from the school's fraternities. She did not appear to be "physically injured at the time" but was shaken. She told him that that she had been forced to have oral sex with a group of men at a fraternity party, but he does not remember her identifying a specific house. Other friends of Jackie’s told the Washington Post that they now have doubts about her narrative, but Jackie told the Washington Post that she firmly stands by the account she gave to Erdely.

We published the article with the firm belief that it was accurate. Given all of these reports, however, we have come to the conclusion that we were mistaken in honoring Jackie's request to not contact the alleged assaulters to get their account. In trying to be sensitive to the unfair shame and humiliation many women feel after a sexual assault, we made a judgment – the kind of judgment reporters and editors make every day. We should have not made this agreement with Jackie and we should have worked harder to convince her that the truth would have been better served by getting the other side of the story. These mistakes are on Rolling Stone, not on Jackie. We apologize to anyone who was affected by the story and we will continue to investigate the events of that evening.

Emphasis added to highlight the latest of Rolling Stone's admitted sins. Erdely originally reported that Jackie's friends—the ones who urged her not to go to the police, worried about how their social lives would be impacted, and wondered why she didn't enjoy being with "hot Phi Psi guys"—declined to be interviewed. But those same friends have now given multiple media interviews in which they claimed that they would have gladly told their story to Erdely if given the chance. The above admission in the editor's note suggests that Erdely did not actually try to contact the friends at all, perhaps taking Jackie's word for it that they were unwilling to talk.

These friends have, of course, contradicted virtually all of Jackie's claims, from the details of the alleged crime (coerced vaginal sex and with nine perpetrators vs. coerced oral sex with five perpetrators) to Jackie's state immediately after (battered and bloodied vs. shaken but not bleeding) to the argument over whether to call the police (Jackie said her friends talked her out of it, the friends say they were dialing 911 when Jackie stopped them). The friends have also questioned Jackie's odd behavior prior to the alleged crimes, and have put forth a credible narrative—backed up by the The Washington Post—suggesting that she went to great lengths to invent a fictional suitor. As I explained on CNN's Michael Smerconish show on Saturday, these developments support a "catfishing" explanation.

Rolling Stone is apparently re-reporting the story, according to WaPost's Erik Wemple. Presumably, that entails doing all the work its staff should have done before publishing such incredible—and, as it turns out, demonstrably false—claims. The magazine has given little reason for anyone to believe it's capable of such feats of competent journalism, but should begin by penning what everyone else has already realized is necessary: a full retraction. No more mealy-mouthed statements like "our trust was misplaced" in Jackie (as the editors initially claimed), or "we were mistaken" in reporting details pursuant to Jackie's demands (as they now claim).
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http://dailycaller.com/2014/12/16/university-of-virginia-students-catfishing-scheme-revealed/

University Of Virginia Student’s Catfishing Scheme Revealed
11:20 AM 12/16/2014

Chuck Ross
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A University of Virginia student named Jackie appears to have used internet phone services to fabricate the identity of a man she says she was going on a date with on the night she claims she was gang-raped by seven fraternity members.

The fabrication of the man, who Jackie told her friends was named Haven Monahan, adds another layer of intrigue to a bizarre saga which has unfolded after the publication of a Rolling Stone article written by Sabrina Rubin Erdely, who is now in hiding because of fallout from the largely-debunked piece.

Monahan appears to have come into existence soon after Jackie was romantically rejected by one of her friends, Ryan Duffin.

Duffin, along with two other friends of Jackie’s — Alex Stock and Kathryn Hendley — feature prominently in Erdely’s article.

“She did not take it well,” Duffin told The Daily Caller last week of Jackie’s response to the rejection. “There was a lot of crying involved.”
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Soon after that, Jackie began talking about Monahan, a third-year student she claimed had a crush on her. Intrigued, the friends asked for Monahan’s phone number, and Jackie complied by giving it to them.

The friends began corresponding with Monahan, who often steered conversations back to Duffin, the friends told The Washington Times.

Despite claiming she was not interested in the man, Jackie told the friends she was going on a date with him on the night she later said she was gang-raped at a Phi Kappa Psi house party. Jackie initially told Erdely that she had gone on a date that night with a third-year student named “Drew” she said she knew from her job as a lifeguard at the school’s swimming pool.

At around 1 a.m. on the night of the date, Jackie called Duffin saying that something bad had happened to her. He called Stock and Hendley, and all three met up with her somewhere on campus. The trio recall Jackie saying that she had been forced to perform oral sex on five men that night. She also said she did not want to go to the police and instead wanted to go back to her dorm room.

The friends said they never questioned Jackie’s story until it appeared in the Rolling Stone article. Before that, the furthest they had gone to investigate Monahan was to search for him in the school’s database, which yielded no matches.

But The Washington Times obtained the phone numbers the friends used to correspond with Monahan and found that they were registered to two internet phone services which allow users to send text messages without cellphones. The services can also be used to engage in spoofing.

One number was registered to an internet service called Pinger which allows users to send text messages from the internet or iPads using untraceable numbers.

Duffin told The Times he initially received no response when he sent a text message to the first number Jackie had provided. Instead, he received a text from someone claiming to be Monahan who said he was texting from a friend’s phone.

After that, Monahan said he would begin texting from a third phone, a Blackberry. It was from the Blackberry which Duffin received a picture of a man purported to be Monahan — a man who The Washington Post recently found was actually a high school classmate of Jackie’s who claims he barely knew her.

According to The Times, the three phone numbers were listed under “internet phone” in an online database. Two were labeled “Pinger Internet Phone,” and another was listed under “Enflick Internet Phone.”

Enflick describes itself as “the world’s first all-IP cloud based mobile phone carrier.”

The Times also found that the Blackberry number Duffin corresponded with ended with the domain address, @textfree.us, which is associated with Pinger.

Duffin told TheDC last week that after the night of the alleged incident, he received an email from the address Haven.Monahan@yahoo.com in which a person claiming to be Monahan told him how much Jackie thought of him. The address no longer exists, and no online footprint is attached to it.

“That definitely raises some red flags,” Stock told The Times of the internet phone numbers. “I think as more details come out I definitely feel a little more skeptical. This is all new territory for me. I’m not too technologically savvy.”

“Wow, really? That’s interesting,” Hendley told The Times after being informed of the scheme. “It’s news to me.”

“I think as the story has moved along it has raised some new doubts,” she continued. “I honestly wish I could just talk to her sometimes and ask her myself or at least tell her that I hope she’s all right.”

Jackie’s gang-rape allegation has had massive consequences on campus, albeit not for her. UVA president Teresa Sullivan announced the suspension of all Greek activities for the rest of the semester. Phi Kappa Psi suspended its activities as well. Their fraternity house was also vandalized after the article was first published.
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http://www.dailyprogress.com/news/local/uva/uva-officials-were-aware-of-sexual-assault-allegations-two-months/article_38273862-84c8-11e4-96d8-a32f18fad49b.html


UVa officials were aware of sexual assault allegations two months before Rolling Stone controversy

Posted: Monday, December 15, 2014 9:06 pm

By ​K Burnell Evans


University of Virginia officials knew in mid-September about allegations of a sexual attack at a school fraternity yet by their own account did not request a police investigation until after a Rolling Stone story launched a firestorm more than two months later.

An associate dean met Sept. 17 with Phi Kappa Psi representatives to inform them of the allegations, and school President Teresa A. Sullivan alluded to them less than three weeks later in an early October meeting with the local chapter, according to a participant in the initial talk who declined to be identified.

Mark Lipka, director of standards with the national Phi Kappa Psi fraternity based in Indianapolis, said Monday he took part in the Sept. 17 meeting with Associate Dean of Students Nicole Eramo, but he would not elaborate. The source familiar with that talk said Eramo told them the allegations were about a sexual attack involving multiple people at the local Phi Kappa Psi house.

In a release issued Nov. 19, shortly after Rolling Stone posted online a 9,000-word story detailing allegations of a gang rape at the fraternity, Sullivan said school officials were unaware beforehand of “many details” in the story. Following its release, Sullivan asked Charlottesville police to investigate, according to statements both from her office and UVa Rector George Keith Martin.

Sullivan would not answer questions Monday about why she did not request an investigation earlier and whether she informed the school’s Board of Visitors about the claims before they were published. Neither Martin nor other board members responded to requests for comment.

Rolling Stone has retreated from its story about a woman named Jackie being raped by seven men in an upstairs room at the Phi Psi house off Madison Bowl across from Sullivan’s office. After questions were raised about the story, the magazine eventually acknowledged flaws in its reporting and the fraternity’s refutation of several key aspects of the account.

But the fallout endures, specifically over the university’s response to the story both before and following its publication and the school’s handling of sexual assault claims.

In the immediate aftermath of the story, state Attorney General Mark Herring named O’Melveny & Myers, a powerful international law firm, to conduct an independent review of both the claims and the school’s sexual assault policies.

Sullivan and Martin both repeatedly have ignored questions about whether the independent review will be made public once it is completed. Herring’s office has said only that the board is the law firm’s client. Gov. Terry McAuliffe’s office did not respond Monday when asked whether the review would be made public.

While queries about the review have gone unanswered, questions about what officials knew and when repeatedly have been ignored, including one posed by Board of Visitors member L.D. Britt during a Nov. 25 emergency meeting six days after the story broke.

Before anyone could respond, Charlottesville police Chief Timothy J. Longo interjected, advising that officials abstain from answering because of the ongoing police investigation of the allegation.

“It was my desire to have the question asked by the appropriate investigators,” Longo said in an email Monday. “In my opinion, it would have been inappropriate for the president to be making on the record public comments on specific details of this matter while our investigation is underway. Doing so may create the possibility that any subsequent response may become tainted or otherwise unduly influenced by a response previously given by someone who may or may not have been the person who first received the information or otherwise acted upon it.”

University officials have repeated Longo’s reference to the investigation in declining to answer questions about the timing and nature of the allegations as they were revealed to top school administrators, including Sullivan.

“We have been instructed by the Charlottesville Police Department not to discuss the allegations described in the article during the active investigation of the alleged incident,” spokesman Anthony P. de Bruyn said in an email. “The university’s policies, practices and procedures related to handling sexual assault are also being investigated by an independent counsel appointed by the Virginia Attorney General. We will cooperate fully with each and stand ready to take action where necessary based on the findings.”

Monday evening, university officials sent a release announcing a Board of Visitors meeting set for 1:30 p.m. Friday “to discuss the University’s policies and procedures regarding sexual assault and specific recent allegations.” The meeting is slated to be held in Garrett Hall on Grounds.

On the same day Rolling Stone posted the story, Sullivan issued a news release saying the account included “many details that were not previously disclosed to university officials.”

The source familiar with the Sept. 17 talk said Eramo used the term “rape” in that conversation but later clarified that the allegation referred to oral sex. Friends of Jackie have told reporters that she initially told them she’d been forced to perform oral sex on five men at a fraternity.

It’s unclear what specifically Sullivan told fraternity members about the allegations when she met with them in early October. No one at the fraternity answered a knock at the door Sunday and the local chapter president did not respond to requests for comment.

Sullivan’s office did not answer specific questions Monday about the meeting.

“President Sullivan routinely visits the fraternities and sororities to discuss a range of topics including issues around sexual assault and our bystander intervention efforts,” de Bruyn said. “We are pleased at the current substantive conversations taking place between Greek leadership and the university regarding how best to enhance the safety of members and their guests.”

In a letter to the editor published in today’s opinion section of The Daily Progress, de Bruyn acknowledged the public’s interest in learning more.
UVa: Committed to doing the right thing

Readers of The Daily Progress editorial, “True or not, article has UVa hiding” Dec. 14, deserve a response from the university.

“There is an understandable hunger for immediate answers,” the letter says. “The university is committed to doing the right thing, which means meeting our responsibilities to everyone involved in an enormously complex situation. We will do that, and we will share what we learn with our community.”

Eramo did not respond to an interview request Monday.

She largely has been silent since the story broke. In a widely circulated video interview with a student journalist, she defended the university’s process for responding to sexual assault claims. No student at UVa has been expelled for sexual assault in the last decade.

The university is among 86 schools nationwide under federal investigation over its handling of sexual assault claims. The school denied an open records request for sexual assault claims filed since September 2012, citing federal privacy laws. The university did not respond when The Daily Progress asked for the claims to be released with identifying information redacted.

In his letter to the newspaper, de Bruyn referred to the federal Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act, known as FERPA, in declining to comment on details related to the Rolling Stone account.

“The university will be unrelenting when it comes to enhancing student safety, support, and wellbeing,” the letter says. “If we’re criticized for doing it in a thoughtful and measured manner — complying with local, state and federal authorities — then that is criticism we will accept.”

K. Burnell Evans is the Albemarle County reporter for The Daily Progress. Contact her at (434) 978-7261, kevans@dailyprogress.com or @KBurnellEvans on Twitter.
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University of Virginia officials knew in mid-September about allegations of a sexual attack at a school fraternity yet by their own account did not request a police investigation until after a Rolling Stone story launched a firestorm more than two months later.

An associate dean met Sept. 17 with Phi Kappa Psi representatives to inform them of the allegations, and school President Teresa A. Sullivan alluded to them less than three weeks later in an early October meeting with the local chapter, according to a participant in the initial talk who declined to be identified.

Mark Lipka, director of standards with the national Phi Kappa Psi fraternity based in Indianapolis, said Monday he took part in the Sept. 17 meeting with Associate Dean of Students Nicole Eramo, but he would not elaborate. The source familiar with that talk said Eramo told them the allegations were about a sexual attack involving multiple people at the local Phi Kappa Psi house.


Does this mean that they did not believe the allegations? If they did not believe them then, why did they act later--just to appease
the mob?

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Dec 16 2014, 04:35 PM
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University of Virginia officials knew in mid-September about allegations of a sexual attack at a school fraternity yet by their own account did not request a police investigation until after a Rolling Stone story launched a firestorm more than two months later.

An associate dean met Sept. 17 with Phi Kappa Psi representatives to inform them of the allegations, and school President Teresa A. Sullivan alluded to them less than three weeks later in an early October meeting with the local chapter, according to a participant in the initial talk who declined to be identified.

Mark Lipka, director of standards with the national Phi Kappa Psi fraternity based in Indianapolis, said Monday he took part in the Sept. 17 meeting with Associate Dean of Students Nicole Eramo, but he would not elaborate. The source familiar with that talk said Eramo told them the allegations were about a sexual attack involving multiple people at the local Phi Kappa Psi house.


Does this mean that they did not believe the allegations? If they did not believe them then, why did they act later--just to appease
the mob?

This is Duke Lacrosse Case, Version 2.1

The Rolling Stone article is the UVA's False Rape Story version of
this piece of fine journalism:

http://www.newsobserver.com/2006/03/25/87849_dancer-gives-details-of-ordeal.html?rh=1

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Dancer gives details of ordeal

A woman hired to dance for the Duke lacrosse team describes a night of racial slurs, growing fear and, finally, sexual violence

BY SAMIHA KHANNA AND ANNE BLYTHE
Staff WritersMarch 25, 2006


Duke also did not think the allegations were true until this fine
piece of journalism went to print.

Then, of course, if the newspaper says it's true, it must be true.
"We're off to the races" (Richard Brodhead)

Yep. I have a PhD. I am the President of one of the world's greatest
institutions of higher learning. But I was easily duped by some two-bit
newspaper reporters and some goof-ball prosecutor. I can't think for myself.
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If true, Sullivan needs to resign.

It goes without saying that Brodhead should also have resigned--or been fired.

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I'll take a guess and say that Jackie did not tell the same story to the University that we read in RS?
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Dec 16 2014, 08:00 PM
I'll take a guess and say that Jackie did not tell the same story to the University that we read in RS?
Perhaps her story was such an obvious fabrication that university officials (below the exalted level of the President) simply tried to wait it out - I have seen this approach used successfully. And it (apparently) was working, until the idiot from the RS appeared on the scene.

Or perhaps she never told anyone in position of authority. At the university where I work, certain things HAVE to be reported even by very minor officials - but many (most?) of them would report something like this as a suspected hoax. Some professors are human, believe it or not - and even some administrators! :uhoh:
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Yes.

It could be that Jackie's story was unbelievable to the university, until RS "validated" it...?
Edited by LTC8K6, Dec 16 2014, 09:01 PM.
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http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/12/16/not-journalism-vandalism-greg-gutfeld-slams-rolling-stone-article

'Not Journalism, But Vandalism': Greg Gutfeld Slams Rolling Stone Article

FOX News Insider:

Greg Gutfeld tonight sounded off following the news that the Rolling Stone’s Sabrina Rubin Erdely is reportedly “re-reporting” her controversial UVA rape story.

“Call me crazy, but I think it might be better having someone else re-do this story,” Gutfeld said. “This is like letting a chef have another shot at dinner after giving the whole restaurant the runs. This is like letting a babysitter watch one of your kids after she traded the other one for pot. This is like giving Al Sharpton a TV show after Tawana Brawley.”

Gutfeld charged Erdely with reverse engineering her story to fit her bias.
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http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2014/12/16/New-Details-Raise-Additional-Questions-About-UVA-Rape-Allegation

New Details Raise Additional Questions About UVA Rape Allegation
by John Sexton 16 Dec 2014


The phone numbers given to a group of friends by Jackie, the student who says she was raped in 2012 at a UVA frat hours, were all set up at an online site that allows people to send texts from a computer.

Last week the Post reported that the man who supposedly took Jackie on a date the night of the alleged attack had previously been communicating with Jackie's friends via cell phone numbers she had provided to them. The friends never saw the mystery man in question and were unable to locate him on any social media. At one point the Post recounts they were even beginning to wonder whether they had been in contact with a real upperclassman at all.

Today the Washington Times adds significant new detail to the story. It turns out the cell numbers provided by Jackie, "are registered to Internet services that...can be used to redirect calls to different numbers or engage in spoofing." The site, known as Pinger, is an app that allows people to text for free but it can also be used to set up free texting accounts on the web. It's at least possible then that the accounts Jackie's friends were texting were not connected to a phone at all. Told about the source of the texts, one of Jackie's friends, Alex Stock, tells the Times, "That definitely raises some red flags."

Despite the new revelations, Jackie's friends continue to support her, albeit somewhat more hesitantly than before. Ryan Duffin, who appears to have been the real object of Jackie's affections, recalls that Jackie eventually wanted to get out of the story. "There came a point when she didn’t want that anymore, she tried to retract, but the reporter said at that stage it wasn’t possible," he tells the Times. He adds, "More and more is coming to the surface, and I think there will come a time when we know what really happened, especially since I know there is a police investigation."

Charlottesville Police have refused to comment other than to say that they are continuing to investigate the incident.
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http://www.nbc29.com/story/27644479/cville-police-chief-speaks-out-on-uva-rape-investigation

Cville Police Chief Speaks out on UVA Rape Investigation
Posted: Dec 16, 2014 4:47 PM CST Updated: Dec 16, 2014 4:58 PM CST

The University of Virginia and an alleged rape victim's story have come under scrutiny since Rolling Stone magazine published a scathing article last month highlighting an alleged gang rape that took place at a fraternity house.

The article, titled “A Rape on Campus: A Brutal Assault and Struggle for Justice at UVA,” highlights a UVA student's story about allegedly being gang raped by seven men at the Phi Kappa Psi fraternity house. After the publication of the article, UVA asked Charlottesville police to conduct an investigation into the incident.

Now, in the wake of the rape investigation, Charlottesville Police Chief Tim Longo is speaking out.

Chief Longo won't say right now is if the victim in the rape case is actually cooperating with police. Longo does say, however, that UVA has been forthright and is cooperating with the investigation. The chief also says he is regularly in communication with UVA President Teresa Sullivan.

The Charlottesville Police Department will release a full account of the investigative findings when complete.

Longo says the police department can't say when investigators first learned about the rape.

"Lots of questions about when that information first came to the attention, when our investigation began. All certainly legitimate questions, but all questions for which those answers are part of our criminal investigation,” said Longo.

He says UVA did the correct thing in asking the Charlottesville Police Department to investigate the allegations published in the Rolling Stone magazine article.

Longo also says more recent media articles calling the Rolling Stone article into question do not distract from the investigation.
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Dec 16 2014, 09:01 PM
Yes.

It could be that Jackie's story was unbelievable to the university, until RS "validated" it...?
If the "it" is something happened.
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An associate dean met Sept. 17 with Phi Kappa Psi representatives to inform them of the allegations, and school President Teresa A. Sullivan alluded to them less than three weeks later in an early October meeting with the local chapter, according to a participant in the initial talk who declined to be identified.


Did the dean tell them not to worry, not to get attorneys, and not to tell their parents?

And if the university did not advise them to consult attorneys, does that mean it did not consider the allegations to be valid?

And if so, what changed that perception?

And was the entire reaction of the university after the RS article came out, just an exercise in proper PR?

Edited by Quasimodo, Dec 17 2014, 08:45 AM.
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