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UVA Rape Story Collapses; Duke Lacrosse Redux
Topic Started: Dec 5 2014, 01:45 PM (60,488 Views)
Joan Foster

Supposedly from the girl in the photo: “This is my sign. Wow, I continue to be blown away at the tremendous amount of support and positive feedback I’ve received from this. I’m so grateful, it was hard. I think a big thank you is in order to everyone. Everyone who was at the walk, everyone who organized it, everyone who wished they could have been there, everyone who is taking a stand and not tolerating this rape-culture we live in. Everyone is stronger from yesterday’s walk, I know I am. And so is our message. My jaw dropped when I saw your previous post over 67,000 notes on tumblr? I don’t even know what to say, I never would have imagined it.Feel free to post it everywhere. My only hope is to bring awareness so no other woman has to go through what I did.” (Photograph by Aimei_Photography; I never met this woman, have no connection with her aside from finding this a powerful message.)
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Rape before the UVa rape...


"Are we really to believe that a mere 18 months later Coakley didn’t know what to do after she’d been raped a second time?"


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This old plodding dinosaur is back, slowly moving towards where cultures die. All of the events in the last few months have pointed out the insanity of this modern culture

Thugs getting cheered, Cops getting attack, Rioting in the streets over what?

Now we have the UVA scandal & the uproar of an article in Rolling Stone that was short on facts and long on narratives.

Are we that stupid as a culture? The inability to demonstrate common sense is epidemic

Just look at Kim Kardashian proudly showing off her mammoth butt naked in a magazine. Yikes

Yep it appears we are that stupid as a culture.
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Jackie Coakley Made Up Many Fake Rape Stories About Herself — Pinterest Account Suggests She’s Obsessed With Rape
http://www.inquisitr.com/1665379/jackie-coakley-made-up-many-fake-rape-stories-about-herself-pinterest-account-suggests-shes-obsessed-with-rape/

Pitcure of her.
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Joan Foster

If this is true...will we see it covered by the media? Remember how Mangum's previous accusation was stuck on the N&O sports page or someplace like that...
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Quasimodo

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Dear Parents:

Today is the first day of final exams, and in a few weeks we will end a tumultuous fall semester. Three members of the Class of 2017 have died this semester, and the sense of grief and loss is palpable. In addition, many members of our community are grieving over the deaths of young black men in Staten Island and Ferguson.

[What does that have to do with the accusations of rape at UVa?]

All of you are aware of the most recent incidents affecting the University and students as a result of the article in Rolling Stone and its subsequent retraction. I am writing today to provide some context for our response, and the changes you can expect when classes resume in January.

Since the article was published, Greek activities have been suspended until Jan. 9. My decision to suspend fraternity and sorority social activity for the remainder of the year came after UVa’s Inter-Fraternity Council suspended its activities for the weekend of Nov. 21 and after the Phi Kappa Psi fraternity chapter at UVa voluntarily surrendered its own Fraternal Organization Agreement with the University. I remain sensitive to concerns about broadly indicting the entire Greek system. As I said in an address earlier this month, in any crisis it can be far too easy to paint with a broad brush, and to blindly attack entire groups of individuals. This is not a responsible reaction. Our fraternities were terribly distressed by the allegations in the article, and they are working with us toward solutions.

Until Jan. 9, chapter meetings and philanthropic activities are permitted, but I have encouraged all of the Greek-letter organizations, including the National Pan-Hellenic Council, the Multicultural Greek Council, and the Inter-Sorority Council to use this time to strengthen the student safety provisions of their agreements with the University. I met with the leaders of each of these groups, and in typical UVa fashion, our students have already come up with a number of sound ideas for improvement. Student Council will work with us and all of the CIOs (student organizations) to do the same thing. The reinstatement of Greek activities on Jan. 9 will be in conjunction with a new Fraternal Organization Agreement that will enhance the safety of members and their guests.

Even though the facts in the Rolling Stone story are in dispute, sexual misconduct does occur and it has no place at our University.

[Continue with the narrative...]

We will continue our efforts to improve our policies and practices, to support survivors with counseling and in other ways,

[what survivors?]

and to rigorously examine our culture and climate. Survivors will continue to have support through our student life and counseling professionals. I have named an Ad Hoc Group on Campus Climate and Culture; this group consists of two Board of Visitors members, one dean, four students, two faculty members, two alumni, and two parents. We will be working with our Board to examine what changes might be beneficial.

The Rolling Stone article, in my opinion, unfairly maligned a number of dedicated professionals who work for the University. I have noted in particular that our students immediately reached out to our Student Affairs staff with expressions of support. I can vouch for the fact that this staff has worked tirelessly to provide for the welfare of all of our students.

[Really? I thought the principal persons maligned were the frat brothers.]

Some changes you can expect in the next semester include a police substation on the Corner and more frequent joint patrols by the University and Charlottesville police. We plan to introduce a new group of unarmed security personnel, called “Ambassadors,” who will wear distinctive uniforms. On weekend evenings, they will be prominently deployed near the libraries and the Corner to assist students, provide escorts as needed, and provide additional eyes and ears for the police patrols. We have recently completed nighttime tours of the Grounds that have led to tree-trimming and light replacement, and we will be upgrading the lighting, especially around laboratory buildings and other buildings where people may work late at night.

We have a new proposed policy on sexual misconduct that takes into account new federal mandates. It is posted here for public comment until December 20. We will be promulgating the revised new policy in the spring, and we will also be providing training in the new policy for everyone at the University.

I have also committed myself to visiting with faculty and student groups to encourage the conversation about how we foster healthy relationships, discourage sexual misconduct, and make the University community safer for all of us.

As we pause at the end of the year to reflect on our values and traditions, I reflect on how fortunate I am to interact with your students and with our caring faculty and staff. We all agree that we want a safe University where all students can develop their potential to its fullest. That is our top priority.

With best wishes for your students and for our new year,

Teresa A. Sullivan President
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Teresa A. Sullivan & Richard Brodhead, a match made in the weasel hall of fame
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BREAKING VIDEO: #RollingStone #UVAHoax Author #SabrinaRubinErdely: “I Have A Finely Tuned BS Detector”

The author of the retracted Rolling Stone story says she has a “finely tuned B.S. detector” that guides her when dealing with lying sources, especially in intimate cases.

“My tendency is to believe people,” journalist Sabrina Rubin Erdely said to an audience at the University of Pennsylvania, her alma mater. “My default mode is you are probably telling the truth.”

“I have a finely tuned bullshit detector and when it goes off I pay close attention because it doesn’t tend to go off without a reason. I’m not a person who assumes that everything is bullshit. If something strikes me as being off I tend to question more deeply about that thing.”


The Washington Post is now reporting Rolling Stone Editor questioned first draft of rape story.

http://gotnews.com/breaking-video-rollingstone-uvahoax-author-sabrina-finely-tuned-bs-detector/


And we have a stink detector going off the scale
Edited by Baldo, Dec 8 2014, 10:37 PM.
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MikeZPU

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Dec 8 2014, 08:03 PM
A letter from a friend: Jackie's story is not a hoax

by Emily Clark | on Dec 07 at 10:43pm

Fellow Wahoos,

My name is Emily, and I was Jackie’s suitemate first year. I am writing to you in regards to Rolling Stone’s recent statement of “misplaced trust” in Jackie. I feel this statement is backwards, as it seems it was Jackie who misplaced her trust in Rolling Stone.

I fully support Jackie, and I believe wholeheartedly that she went through a traumatizing sexual assault. I remember my first semester here, and I remember Jackie’s. Jackie came to UVA bright, happy and bubbly. She was kind, funny, outgoing, friendly, and a pleasant person to be around. That all notably changed by December 2012, and I wasn’t the only one who noticed. Our suite bonded that first semester and talked many times about the new troubles we were facing in college. Jackie never mentioned anything about her assault to us until much later. But I, as well as others, noticed Jackie becoming more and more withdrawn and depressed.

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A letter from a friend

When someone is willing to pen a letter under her own name, it's worth my time to read it. I think it might be worth your time as well. You may disagree with Emily, but any real discussion begins with a sincere statement of what you believe and why.
We all know where this is headed: "Something happened that night"

Quoting Nicole Pittman Roberts: "Crock"
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Joan Foster
Dec 8 2014, 09:42 PM
http://gotnews.com/breaking-fraud-jackiecoakley-cried-rape-uvahoax/

Don't know if this is true...but if it is...we got ourselves another Mangum.
Was it MikeZPU who first said you can't make up this shit?
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Quasimodo
Dec 8 2014, 10:05 PM
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Rape before the UVa rape...


"Are we really to believe that a mere 18 months later Coakley didn’t know what to do after she’d been raped a second time?"


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That's what I call a problem.

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Dec 8 2014, 11:22 PM
Joan Foster
Dec 8 2014, 09:42 PM
http://gotnews.com/breaking-fraud-jackiecoakley-cried-rape-uvahoax/

Don't know if this is true...but if it is...we got ourselves another Mangum.
Was it MikeZPU who first said you can't make up this shit?
Nope. that was Mason.

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Dec 8 2014, 10:31 PM
Teresa A. Sullivan & Richard Brodhead, a match made in the weasel hall of fame
Absolutely. But they are masters of the non-apology apology and at retaining their jobs.
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We all know where this is headed: "Something happened that night" - Maybe. But I don't think so.

Right now no one has been charged with a crime and I've seen nothing that would indicate that charges against anyone are likely. In this case, the something could have simply been a young lady with adjustment problems. Anyway, the students will soon be going home for Christmas, and without a driving function the story will fade away.
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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/dec/8/wes-pruden-feminists-wrong-on-uva-rape-story/

Feminists wrong on UVa rape story
By Wesley Pruden - The Washington Times - Monday, December 8, 2014

Some of our most dedicated feminists are trying to make a good thing of rape, heretofore regarded as one of the more horrific crimes. Once upon a time rape was even a capital crime, like murder. Many men went to the gallows or the electric chair for it.

The mere accusation of rape, like the accusation of molesting children, was usually horrific enough to guarantee conviction. Would a woman lie? Some men accused of rape died at the hands of a mob and many at the hands of the state and were often not actually guilty.

Rape was serious, dreadful business then. But now, sometimes, not so much.

Anger, unfocused resentment and high dudgeon have lately inspired certain young women — abetted by men and women in responsible positions who ought to know better (and probably do) — to make uncorroborated claims of abuse that trivializes one of the meanest and most brutal crimes that a human can inflict on another.

One young woman, Lena Dunham, has made a television career of a sordid sex life and of being raped, or at least she thinks she was. She wrote a book about it.

Innocent reputations suffer. Institutions are damaged when, like men, they pay for crimes that did not exist. Bearing false witness is a crime, too, and a serious one, legally no less than morally.

Rolling Stone magazine, the journal of rock music that sometimes aspires to big-boy journalism, is the current cause celebre, out with a sensational story of gang rape on the campus of the University of Virginia. Colleges and universities build their reputations slowly and sometimes inadvertently. The University of Alabama is celebrated as the nation's foremost football factory. Georgetown is famous for having educated Bubba and infamous for the drunken students who have blighted the quiet residential streets surrounding its campus in Washington. And now Tom Jefferson's university has become, fair or not, a place where cautious parents are wary of sending their daughters for a college education. Rolling Stone will now live in infamy as a rag that put a dent in the credibility of modern media everywhere.

The story in the magazine was a horrific one, more a tale from an Arabian night than from the cultured precincts of an American university town. A young women, identified by Rolling Stone only as "Jackie," said she went to a party in a fraternity house in Charlottesville and was set upon by a gang of ruffians, raped and scratched and beaten and left to make her escape without help. The details were set down in a story by one Sabrina Rubin Erdely in Rolling Stone.

"Jackie" provided neither corroborating evidence, and the magazine did not ask for a witness to go on the record with details. Her story was told in the usual purple ink, as evidence of the "rape epidemic" said to be roiling campuses everywhere. "Who would lie about rape?"

When her story began unravel, as others sought but could not find corroboration or evidence to support her story, Rolling Stone was left to explain the greater sin of the story. Feminists trotted out their usual shock that anyone could question a rape accusation; "rape denial," said one, "is like denying the Holocaust." Maybe nothing happened, but it could have. Isn't that enough?

Rolling Stone's only defense was an apology, subject to revision, which in an earlier day would have been an unanswerable indictment of both its editors and its publishers. The apologies, such as they were, suggested that the university's "troubling history of indifference to many other instances of alleged sexual assaults" was to blame for its careless disregard for the fundamental canons of journalism. Newspapers and magazines have slipped into the newspaper graveyard for less.

"Because of the sensitive nature of Jackie's story," wrote Will Dana, the managing editor, "we decided to honor her request not to contact the man she claimed participated in the attack, for fear of retaliation against her." Facts have destroyed many a good story, and the magazine didn't want that to happen to its account of Jackie's lurid tale.

"In the face of new information," the apology continued, "there now appear to be discrepancies in Jackie's account, and we have come to the conclusion that our trust in her was misplaced." It wasn't Rolling Stone's fault, it was Jackie's. "We were trying to be sensitive to the unfair shame and humiliation many women feel after a sexual assault and now regret the decision to not contact the alleged assaulters to get their account." It wasn't Rolling Stone's fault that it sold fiction as fact, it was society's fault. Lawyers are now on the scout for an identifiable plaintiff against the Stone.

• Wesley Pruden is editor emeritus of The Washington Times.
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