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Duke Female Student Defends Doing Porn; Paying $60,000 Tuition & Fees with Sex
Topic Started: Mar 9 2014, 01:11 PM (446 Views)
sceptical

I checked Google news this morning for the top stories and one of the categories was "Duke University." I thought it might be about basketball, but instead it was about the Duke female freshman who last month revealed she was doing porn to help pay for her tuition. There have been stories about this student on the media roundup by abb. However, the response by Duke and reaction on campus deserve a discussion.

Here are some links (in approximate chronological order):

http://www.dukechronicle.com/articles/2014/02/14/portrait-porn-star

http://www.dukechronicle.com/articles/2014/02/28/storm-media-coverage-follows-chronicle-profile-adult-film-actress

http://playboysfw.kinja.com/meet-belle-knox-the-duke-porn-star-as-you-might-have-1535822551/@sarah-hedgecock

http://blogs.ajc.com/news-to-me/2014/03/05/duke-student-reveals-porn-name/

http://time.com/13095/the-duke-porn-star-isnt-as-empowered-as-she-claims/?iid=gs-main-mostpop2

http://www.inquisitr.com/1164433/belle-knox-outed-duke-university-porn-star-says-sex-on-film-is-freeing/

http://piersmorgan.blogs.cnn.com/2014/03/06/duke-porn-star-belle-knox-to-have-that-sexual-autonomy-it-is-so-incredibly-freeing/

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/porn-big-offers-frat-boy-outed-duke-porn-star-10k-flick-article-1.1714700

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/duke-porn-star-belle-knox-sex-workers-article-1.1712359

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PLAYBOY: You wrote that one of the main reasons you did porn was to pay for school and not be saddled with large student loans once you graduated. Would you be doing porn if Duke were free?

KNOX: No. If Duke had given me the proper financial resources, I wouldn't have done porn. They have nobody to blame for the scandal but themselves.

PLAYBOY: Is that what this is really about for you—the skyrocketing cost of higher education in America?

KNOX: Absolutely. My story is a testament to how f*cking expensive school is. The fact that the only viable options to pay for college are to take out gigantic student loans, to not go to college at all or to join the sex industry really says something. We need to recognize that there's a gap between what middle-class and upper-middle-class families can pay and what they're asked to pay. We also need to stop looking at loans as a solution to fix our education system, because they're crippling our economy.


http://playboysfw.kinja.com/meet-belle-knox-the-duke-porn-star-as-you-might-have-1535822551/@sarah-hedgecock
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http://www.hlntv.com/article/2014/03/05/belle-knox-duke-porn-student-university-pornography

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"While we will not comment on any specific situation, there are some relevant facts," Keith Lawrence, Duke University Executive Director of News and Communications, told HLN in an e-mail. "There is no restriction in the Duke Community Standard regarding off-campus employment."
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In response to Knox's comment that her porn career was started out of financial need, Lawrence wrote, "Duke has an expansive financial aid program that meets 100 percent of every student's demonstrated [need] based on a careful review of his or her individual family circumstances. More than half of all Duke students receive some form of financial assistance from the university to cover the cost of their education."
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"There is no restriction in the Duke Community Standard regarding off-campus employment."



So if some Duke students had hired her to entertain them by dancing, at an off-campus event,
would Duke have any reason to complain?

What if they were just helping her earn her way through college?

Wasn't that the excuse that a single mom, mother of two, and navy veteran, gave for her dancing?

Why wasn't it acceptable for Duke students to help out an NCCU student by hiring her?

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Edited by Quasimodo, Mar 9 2014, 02:07 PM.
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While most of the U.S. mainstream media have not identified Belle Knox's real name, a number of gossip blogs and at least one English newspaper have done so.

"The internet is forever." I can't count the number of times I've warned my kids and other young people not to put up anything on the internet that they wouldn't want their parents, friends and neighbors to see. And anything they put up will last, even if they try to delete it.

If this young woman (she is only 18) thought she could be a porn actress without her classmates or family learning about it, she now knows she was mistaken.

This case illustrates not only the staying power of the internet, but also the dilemma faced by feminists with respect to pornography. Some, like Ms. Knox, find that pornography is liberating to women and their sexuality. Others claim it is degrading to women and is an example of a male-dominated industry that exploits their sexuality.

The reaction on Duke's campus also reveals a double standard towards sex, especially on the part of some male Duke students, who try to "hook up" with women but then attack those who fall prey to themselves.

Lots to think about...
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Is there some inalienable "right" to attend the university of your choice?
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Wonder how this girl's parents feel about her choice of "employment". It INFURIATES ME to read the quote that "Duke has only itself to blame" for her choice of doing porn for cash.

I worked my way through college. I worked to send my children to school, so when they graduated they would have NO loans. If we couldn't have done that in four years, we would have taken longer. If I couldn't have sent my daughter to the VERY expensive private school she preferred, we would have chosen another. But never ever would I have blamed the SCHOOL for our own financial shortfalls.

This girl is only 18. She is not even old enough to drink alcohol legally. Can you imagine at what age she began her sexual experiences?

This borders on the most disgusting thing I have read recently.
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Who knows what the financial aid office decided regarding Ms. Knox's family's ability to pay. I can remember well, when filling out the FAFSA what the government thought we could pay with three students in college t the same time (full freight for all). We sold stock (at a loss) and then took a bath in taxes in addition. I would do it again in a heartbeat but I realize that not everyone is in a position to take that kind of a financial bath.

Having said that, do not mistake for a minute that I feel that Ms. Knox made a wise decision. My guess is that there will come a point in her lie where she will regret the choice she made. However, there is nothing illegal in what she has done.
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When I was at Notre Dame 1973-1977, I graduated with no debt as follows: I had a $1000/year scholarship, I worked 40 hours per week for 10 weeks each summer, and I worked 20 hours per week for each of 2 15-week semesters. Total earned: after taxes, $4000. So I could afford the $5000 total cost. Today, if a Notre Dame student did the same, their earned amount wouldn't cover 10% of the price of the school. No one can justify the false inflation of cost of tuition and fees, but earning power of students has less than doubled while price for college has gone up a factor of 12.
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Mar 9 2014, 08:07 PM
When I was at Notre Dame 1973-1977, I graduated with no debt as follows: I had a $1000/year scholarship, I worked 40 hours per week for 10 weeks each summer, and I worked 20 hours per week for each of 2 15-week semesters. Total earned: after taxes, $4000. So I could afford the $5000 total cost. Today, if a Notre Dame student did the same, their earned amount wouldn't cover 10% of the price of the school. No one can justify the false inflation of cost of tuition and fees, but earning power of students has less than doubled while price for college has gone up a factor of 12.
I could not agree more. And I was in the same situation.

A little side note: at my university, tuition has gone up SUBSTANTIALLY
during an extensive time period -- close to almost 15 years now -- where
our (faculty and staff) annual merit raises were either 1% or nothing at all.

They all jacked up their prices substantially and, rather than go down,
they have a MASSIVE system of financial aid.

It's craziness. Go to UPenn's web site at the link below, and see
the table towards the bottom:

http://www.admissions.upenn.edu/costs-financial-aid/financial-aid-at-penn
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Think of how much Duke had done to advance the cause of women in this country.

Most recently, they have a student getting a lot of national attention for doing
porn to pay for her education at Duke.

Not too long ago, they had a female undergrad who wrote an informal dissertation
on all her one-night stands, including ratings of her male companions. This also
garnered a lot of publicity for the cause of woman at Duke.

Not too long before that, they staked much of their reputation on the accusations
of a hooker-stripper who is now a convicted murderer.

Duke is doing so much for the cause of women in this country.

Edited by MikeZPU, Mar 11 2014, 02:12 PM.
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It is no different in private/parochial high schools. My four children all attended Catholic schools (though we are not Catholic) from pre-school through high school. The high school that my daughter attended and where I now teach, has seen its tuition double from the time that my daughter graduated until now. It is now over 11,000 just to walk in the door (this does not include the sports fees - also risen, the lap top computer that one must purchase, uniforms, all the teeshirts for clubs, the fundraising requirement, etc. I can tell you for a fact that it has not gone to faculty pay - in fact, the pay has decreased for older teachers due to the rising cost of healthcare. Before Obamacare the one benefit we got was that our healthcare (weak as it was) was free in that the school paid the premiums. We had a fairly high deductible and copay. Now we have seen both the deductible and copay rise and in addition we now pay half of the premium each pay period. Of course, the coverage that we have has NOT improved.

We have younger faculty who will not be able to send their children to Catholic schools because they cannot afford the tuition - even with the employee discount.
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Porn eats at the spirit and leaves its carnage. The reality is pretty clear to those in LA as young woman who get into the porn business and are at first happy to earn the money, but it takes it toil & leaves them regretful in just a few years.

I don't object to nudity, but porn destroys women. She is a foolish young woman and in saner times she would have been given the boot out of Duke.
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I don't think the issue here is about the cost of a university education. I think the issue here is what a person will do to get money.

If a person does not value the sexual experience as meaningful, a special relationship, between committed people, then selling one's body for booty is logical, I guess, in a twisted sort of way.

But is there anything that they teach at Duke that is so unique, so special, so esoteric, that it is worth it?

Maybe she'll write a book. Now that could probably make her more money, if she begins to list her client's names.

But then...perhaps there is no more shame left, and nobody would be interested.

I just still wonder about her parents.
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It's scary how porn has proliferated on the web.

Some years ago, we were looking for some nice furniture for our
dining room and we're checking out a brand called Harden.

I mistakenly thought it was Hardon and typed in www.hardon.com
and got a porn site ...

This was several years ago, and I don't know if that site still exists
and I am not going to check. Don't try this at home :)
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