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No, this would never happen in real life...
Topic Started: Mar 3 2014, 10:54 PM (234 Views)
Quasimodo



What would surprise you in this case?

Maybe...



a transvestite drag queen appearing as a witness for the prosecution;


the step-son of a West African police minister being covered-up for by the press and the DPD;


a West African airline officer and possible importer, also being given cover by the authorities;


death threats being issued by a racially-oriented hate group, whose uniformed members threatened the defendants even inside a courtroom, with complete impunity and absolutely no response at all from the ever-vigilant FBI;


a university president hoping the double-secret probation he imposes will make the lacrosse team go away;


The most technologically advanced media in the world, arriving with satellite trucks parked hub to hub and camping out in Durham, and yet unable to discover: 1 ) any of Mangum's co-workers or neighbors; 2 ) anything about her actual background; 3 ) anything about Cousin Jacki; 4 ) unable to discover that the whole DPD considered the case was a fraud; 5 ) unable to press Nifong about a single issue (DNA results, photo ID session, inflammatory statements, etc.); IOW, a media that was spoon-fed from the beginning and never asked a hard question;


three guys who have been acclaimed guilty by the entire mass media, Newsweek, the NAACP; and cold-shouldered by the politicians, Innocence Projects, law professors, and everyone else except perhaps the embassy of Namibia (not included only because they did not respond to the poll), actually being declared INNOCENT!





This kind of stuff would never happen in real life, nor even in a movie; it's too ridiculous. Maybe in a spoof, which would be panned by the critics as too over-the-top. So any of the above would really, really be a surprise to me. . .


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The most technologically advanced media in the world, arriving with satellite trucks parked hub to hub and camping out in Durham, and yet unable to discover: 1 ) any of Mangum's co-workers or neighbors; 2 ) anything about her actual background; 3 ) anything about Cousin Jacki; 4 ) unable to discover that the whole DPD considered the case was a fraud; 5 ) unable to press Nifong about a single issue (DNA results, photo ID session, inflammatory statements, etc.); IOW, a media that was spoon-fed from the beginning and never asked a hard question;


:SarC: :sarc2:

The reason the MSM press didn't ask Nifong a single hard
question is because he was just trying to do the right thing. :bump:



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Quasimodo


Didn't any of the local media have contacts at the police department and the DA's office? And at Duke?

And was there NOBODY who was telling them off the record that the case was a fraud?

And if the media heard from them, they still weren't expressing any skepticism about the case?

Odd, that...

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Didn't any of the local media have contacts at the police department and the DA's office? And at Duke?

And was there NOBODY who was telling them off the record that the case was a fraud?



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[Jason Trumpbour at FODU in 2008]

(snip)

Cline agreed last week that attorneys have a duty to report unethical conduct among their colleagues.

But she said she lacked insights into what Nifong was doing
.

“I didn’t have any personal information about what went on in the lacrosse case, other than what the media reported,” she said. “My job was to keep the courtrooms running. That is what I was focused on.”

First, the assertion that she did not know the facts of the case is almost certainly false. Having worked as second chair, I can tell you that the second chair knows as much about the case as the lead attorney and often knows more.

(snip)

More importantly, Cline did not need to know one thing about the Lacrosse case to know that Mike Nifong was an unethical attorney and that he should have been reported to the bar. . . Anyone with a television set could watch him do it.

North Carolina Rule or Professional Conduct 8.3(a) states,

A lawyer who knows that another lawyer has committed a violation of the Rules of Professional Conduct that raises a substantial question as to that lawyer's honesty, trustworthiness or fitness as a lawyer in other respects, shall inform the North Carolina State Bar or the court having jurisdiction over the matter.


It is no exaggeration in the least to say that every single lawyer in the District Attorney’s office is an unethical attorney.

(snip)

Even after Nifong was disbarred, assistant district attorneys continued to support him and defend his actions. ADA Stormy Ellis pronounced herself “shocked that he has been tainted as a ‘rogue prosecutor.’ It scares me to think that one case can mar you for the rest of your life.” At Nifong’s contempt hearing, I heard a male voice behind me mutter, “Objection!” to a prosecution question it evidently did not like. I did not see who said it, but moments later David Saacks, who is now the acting District Attorney, stood up from directly behind me when he was called as a witness.

At this same hearing, ADA Jan Paul, who had come to the hearing to support Nifong, refused to speak with investigative reporter Joe Neff of the News and Observer because she blamed him for Nifong’s downfall.

(snip)
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These were people who were cocky and strutting about as though they owned the town. They were quite happy to see these families going through hell, and I am sure they joked about it at the office. And, had there been a conviction and had these young men been beaten or even killed in prison, I'm sure that Cline and her friends would have celebrated. These are evil people.




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"That night, when the [election] results were announced at the courthouse, an assistant district attorney taunted Duke students who were there to support Lewis Cheek saying, “poor little Duke kids didn’t get your way.”

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Mar 4 2014, 07:58 AM
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Didn't any of the local media have contacts at the police department and the DA's office? And at Duke?

And was there NOBODY who was telling them off the record that the case was a fraud?

Just guessing here after the facts. The local media probably had some input into that hiding real info because they wanted to sell papers. Once the national media showed its face in durham, they most likely were told only a partial truth. Black girls were striping for white athletes. The initial media event in the local paper was just a little paragraph suggesting some type of possible sexual assault by athletes from Duke. Somehow the rumors started and got totally out of control. This was well after the initial investigation found nothing and just after gottlieb claimed that a real rape took place. I was a gottlieb connection and a test the waters tye of article. A lie and a small false story. That is when Duke and Durham decided that it would be better to feed the frenzy with what they may have considered "a positive spin" about white guys taking advantage of black girls at a party that shoud never have happened. In other words, Steel's position that things can all be sorted out later on when everything quiets down. One can see now that even the crimestoppers posters and community emails was meant to hurt and both Duke and DPD and Mayor Bell knew about it. These were false accusations that were suppose to stop all student planned events around the Duke campus.

When did the media find out that…

Shelton did not believe magnum
it was durham access that brought up the rape issue…illegally
the rape kit was never completed becasue mangum cancelled it
there was no certified SANE present at anytime
the cops in the ED claimed nothing happened
mangum herself told a bunch of different stories
dean sue sent a memo saying it was nothing and may only result in a minor charge
all the money that mangum had was stolen

etc, etc etc

In other words, everthing that happened that night was down played to the news media. And that is Dukes fault.
Edited by chatham, Mar 4 2014, 08:38 AM.
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