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| Baldo | Dec 25 2014, 02:39 AM Post #1441 |
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Aetna rate hike excessive, California insurance commissioner says Halth insurance giant Aetna Inc. is imposing excessive rate hikes on more than 5,000 small employers, according to California's insurance commissioner. Commissioner Dave Jones lashed out Thursday at the third-largest U.S. health insurer for raising premiums as much as 20% on some small businesses starting Jan. 1. The average increase of 10.7% will cost small employers and their workers $23.5 million in excessive premiums, according to the state. But Jones has no power to stop it. California voters last month soundly rejected Proposition 45, which would have enabled him to block rate hikes that his department deemed unreasonable. Aetna said its rate increase was justified based on the expected medical costs for employers. The Hartford, Conn., insurer rejected the state's request for a lower increase. The state said a 2.6% increase was more appropriate for this group of 64,000 employees and dependents. All this comes at a time when some employers are questioning why health insurance rates keep climbing amid a historic slowdown in medical spending and decreases in uncompensated care as the federal health law expands coverage to millions of Americans...snipped http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-aetna-rates-20141219-story.html |
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| kbp | Dec 25 2014, 12:11 PM Post #1442 |
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Do some Californians think Proposition 45 could have allowed the state to set premiums the companies would continue operations using? What happened to Barry's plan for shifting the system towards quality over quantity through increased competition? “Consumers are getting a hint of how much money they’re going to save because of this law. The Affordable Care Act is doing what it’s designed to do ... I recognize that there are a lot of folks in this town who are rooting for the law to fail. We’re just going to blow through that stuff and keep on doing the right thing for the American people.” Barry - July 2013 |
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| kbp | Dec 25 2014, 12:53 PM Post #1443 |
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Food for thought on the I recall (long ago) my CPA telling me that penalties and fines may not be expensed (IOW you must pay income tax on funds handed over to some governing entity!). I wonder if transforming the mandate penalty into a tax transforms how it is used in accounting? |
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| Baldo | Dec 25 2014, 01:29 PM Post #1444 |
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It was hocus-pocus with lots of smoke & mirrors and behind the curtain was Gruber, Biden, Reid, Pelosi, and the Grand Wizard himself Obama! We will only know the damage after obama leaves office and rides away with his hundreds of millions promised by the crony capitalists with a Hi Ho Suckers! |
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| kbp | Dec 25 2014, 02:05 PM Post #1445 |
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Merry Christmas to Pro-Obamacare!! http://kaiserhealthnews.org/news/millions-have-already-enrolled-in-2015-health-policies-deadline-still-7-weeks-off/ Millions Have Already Enrolled In 2015 Health Policies, Deadline Still 7 Weeks Off What a difference a year makes..... http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-obamacare-2-million-new-signups-20141223-story.html Enrollment for Obamacare jumps with 2 million new sign-ups Enrollment in health insurance through the Affordable Care Act is increasing rapidly, with more than 2 million people so far signing up for coverage for the first time, figures released Tuesday show. In addition to the new enrollments, which surpass last year's sign-up rate, several million more people have been re-enrolled in plans in the law's second year of expanding coverage. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/24/us/64-million-sign-up-for-health-coverage-in-2015-through-federal-marketplace.html So Far, 6.4 Million Obtain Health Care Coverage for 2015 in Federal Marketplace The Obama administration said Tuesday that 6.4 million people had selected health insurance plans... http://www.politico.com/story/2014/12/obamacare-enrollment-numbers-113765.html HHS reports 6 million signups so far for Obamacare next year Nearly 6.4 million people were enrolled in the federal Obamacare marketplace one month into the 2015 signup season, a pace that Health and Human Services Secretary Sylvia Mathews Burwell on Tuesday called a good start. “People are shopping for coverage and people are signing up,” Burwell said at a news conference where she personally announced the latest numbers.... http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/12/23/hhs-enrollment-numbers-obamacare/20803089/ Two million new enrollees signed up on Healthcare.gov About 6.4 million people chose a health plan or were automatically reenrolled on the federal site HealthCare.gov through Dec. 19, the Department of Health and Human Services said Tuesday.... http://finance.yahoo.com/news/officials-cite-progress-health-care-082349170.html Officials cite progress on health care enrollment Obama administration says progress made on goal of 9.1 million health insurance customers. The second sign-up season under President Barack Obama's health care law is off to a good start but has a way to go to make it a success, administration officials said Tuesday. They sure are cheerful about making some headway towards their goal (update 2 goal!). I saved this one for last to check on the numbers... The 5.4M of 2014 was reduced to 4.5 million re-enrolled, so it looks like just under 1 million (0.9) dropped out, were no pays or a combination of both. That's about 17%. They might soon experience an increase there. If "more than 30%" of the 4.5M customers returned to the web to re-enroll, that leaves about 3 million that may face an increase in their portion of the monthly premium. . |
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| kbp | Dec 25 2014, 03:21 PM Post #1446 |
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Now that it is passed and we can read it... Recall all preaching how Medicaid Expansion was more FREE MONEY that States would never have to cover more than 10% of the costs???? This reads like a plan to provide something for free at a cost, as politicians representing States facing disappointed customers and doctors will not campaign on taking away the new entitlements. California will be hit the hardest. Also note the FREE MONEY programs included helping State or local "community health centers" make it to 2015. After that the budget is NOT a federal problem. We're sure finding lots of small plans loaded in that bigger plan! |
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| longstop | Dec 25 2014, 03:33 PM Post #1447 |
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Demographics - Why The Great Recession Started (And Won't End Anytime Soon) http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-12-22/demographics-why-great-recession-started-and-wont-end-anytime-soon |
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| kbp | Dec 25 2014, 03:59 PM Post #1448 |
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That link will take some time to understand! |
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| kbp | Dec 25 2014, 04:19 PM Post #1449 |
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1,232 v. 310
Edited by kbp, Dec 25 2014, 04:20 PM.
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| kbp | Dec 25 2014, 04:55 PM Post #1450 |
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Some might recall long ago I had posted an article with a co-op or two having much lower premiums AND comments in it about private companies raping the public with high premiums. Then I wondered how some taxpayer funded new startup could even figure premiums, as they sure did not have a track record that made them good critics of the private companies! |
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| kbp | Dec 26 2014, 02:45 PM Post #1451 |
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I'm just not following how the age demographics could create a crash at the peak he identifies. I can see how that may be the peak of growing demand in a sense, but all other results from the decline are forecasts, not a sudden cliff that hit us. Also, who knew? It was not something published by all the media as the day of doom nearing. Maybe I am not understanding WTH he means there! |
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| Baldo | Dec 26 2014, 03:57 PM Post #1452 |
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I have to admit I am rather baffled by what is going on economically. All time highs on Wall Street, all time high in Food Stamps, all time low on Labor Participation rate. Commodity prices sinking yet some like beef are hitting highs. So that brings us back to a doctor cost on Govt subsidies like medicaid. Sooner or later the cost of doing business collides with what you are charging. The overhead expense in a medical practice is pretty high when you cost out everything. $50 for a doctor's visit can't cover their costs. I guess the answer is the old joke about farmers selling their crops below cost. They hope to make it up on gross sales. I just figure with guys like Gruber designing the system there is always a hidden catch. For him it was the millions he made as a consultant. Think of the money he would have made if the states all went ahead and set up exchanges. I bet he was thinking that. Look to the individual & group purpose and how it benefited his/group is always a good way to judge any system. I keep waiting for the hammer to hit from somewhere Edited by Baldo, Dec 26 2014, 04:26 PM.
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| nyesq83 | Dec 26 2014, 09:23 PM Post #1453 |
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Baldo, 0% rate to banks, they lend to each other at low rates, companies keep costs low by hiring temps and offering little to no benefits. Like the sh!t bronze plan offered by my employer, after they took away our accrued paid holidays and left us with only three paid holidays - after we had to again accrue 2000 hours of paid time beginning last January. We get 4th of July, Thanksgiving and Christmas, assuming the projects we are on now are still going or they decide to roll me over to a new project. No pay increase after my year anniversary. Time and half eliminated for hours over 40 each week. I am gonna be paying $518 for Ocare in January and I have no idea who my doctor will be, no paperwork yet. Plus company offered us Delta Dental, another $30 a month. No match on 401(k) so why bother? Plus when I take time off for appointments, I don't get paid. Welcome to the current state of legal services, thanks to the proliferation of emails, electronic data storage, too many law schools, too many kids who went to law school diploma mills, and off-shoring competition. |
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| nyesq83 | Dec 26 2014, 09:25 PM Post #1454 |
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Oh yeah, I haven't paid my premium for December 2014 yet. Just a few more days... |
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| Mason | Dec 26 2014, 10:12 PM Post #1455 |
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. Right, more and more companies hire temps and some are even creating spinoffs who don't offer benefits. So the guys there 20 years are ABC and have benefits and stocks and the people they hire now are ABC Services have no benefits and don't watch the stock ticker during the day, because they get no stock or stock options. Off-shoring competition is a big one. Nothing has been done about the outsourcing of jobs, it has increased. My theory is the Media is waiting for a Republican to get in there to blast them with it. They don't like the subject while the Power lies with Democrats. Hillary took lots of fat money from Companies that decided to completely and wholly embrace outsourcing. Leaving empty buidlings and lots of people headed for welfare. You can check it out - money flew in to old Hillary and she appeared with the leadership of these Companies . Obama has done nothing to slow it - he has been too busy building the Government behemoth. Joe Biden, Barack Obama, and the DEM idiots talk about Job retraining like it's some savior for 40 year olds. One will lose everything by the time they get a degree at a Community College and try to find a job for $12 an hour, if they are one of the ones that get hired. Why hasn't the media pointed out this silly DEM talking point? So many DEMS really want a form of Socialism. De Blasio called himself a Community Organizer and a Democratic Socialist. You don't get to be a candidate for Mayor of N.Y. without Major Democratic Party support. I suspect part of the plan is for things to Fail - and then the contingency is Central Government and this desired form of socialism. They want to rid the country of Religion, Guns, and independent living. . Edited by Mason, Dec 26 2014, 10:19 PM.
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