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Healthcare Bill Part III; Obamacare
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Aetna rate hike excessive, California insurance commissioner says

Halth insurance giant Aetna Inc. is imposing excessive rate hikes on more than 5,000 small employers, according to California's insurance commissioner.

Commissioner Dave Jones lashed out Thursday at the third-largest U.S. health insurer for raising premiums as much as 20% on some small businesses starting Jan. 1. The average increase of 10.7% will cost small employers and their workers $23.5 million in excessive premiums, according to the state.

But Jones has no power to stop it. California voters last month soundly rejected Proposition 45, which would have enabled him to block rate hikes that his department deemed unreasonable.

Aetna said its rate increase was justified based on the expected medical costs for employers. The Hartford, Conn., insurer rejected the state's request for a lower increase. The state said a 2.6% increase was more appropriate for this group of 64,000 employees and dependents.

All this comes at a time when some employers are questioning why health insurance rates keep climbing amid a historic slowdown in medical spending and decreases in uncompensated care as the federal health law expands coverage to millions of Americans
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http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-aetna-rates-20141219-story.html

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Do some Californians think Proposition 45 could have allowed the state to set premiums the companies would continue operations using?

What happened to Barry's plan for shifting the system towards quality over quantity through increased competition?


“Consumers are getting a hint of how much money they’re going to save because of this law. The Affordable Care Act is doing what it’s designed to do ... I recognize that there are a lot of folks in this town who are rooting for the law to fail. We’re just going to blow through that stuff and keep on doing the right thing for the American people.”
Barry - July 2013
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Food for thought on the mandate penalty tax, as I'm sitting here wasting time...

I recall (long ago) my CPA telling me that penalties and fines may not be expensed (IOW you must pay income tax on funds handed over to some governing entity!).

I wonder if transforming the mandate penalty into a tax transforms how it is used in accounting?
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It was hocus-pocus with lots of smoke & mirrors and behind the curtain was Gruber, Biden, Reid, Pelosi, and the Grand Wizard himself Obama!

We will only know the damage after obama leaves office and rides away with his hundreds of millions promised by the crony capitalists with a Hi Ho Suckers!
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Merry Christmas to Pro-Obamacare!!

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http://kaiserhealthnews.org/news/millions-have-already-enrolled-in-2015-health-policies-deadline-still-7-weeks-off/
Millions Have Already Enrolled In 2015 Health Policies, Deadline Still 7 Weeks Off
What a difference a year makes.....

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-obamacare-2-million-new-signups-20141223-story.html
Enrollment for Obamacare jumps with 2 million new sign-ups
Enrollment in health insurance through the Affordable Care Act is increasing rapidly, with more than 2 million people so far signing up for coverage for the first time, figures released Tuesday show. In addition to the new enrollments, which surpass last year's sign-up rate, several million more people have been re-enrolled in plans in the law's second year of expanding coverage.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/24/us/64-million-sign-up-for-health-coverage-in-2015-through-federal-marketplace.html
So Far, 6.4 Million Obtain Health Care Coverage for 2015 in Federal Marketplace
The Obama administration said Tuesday that 6.4 million people had selected health insurance plans...

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/12/obamacare-enrollment-numbers-113765.html
HHS reports 6 million signups so far for Obamacare next year
Nearly 6.4 million people were enrolled in the federal Obamacare marketplace one month into the 2015 signup season, a pace that Health and Human Services Secretary Sylvia Mathews Burwell on Tuesday called a good start. “People are shopping for coverage and people are signing up,” Burwell said at a news conference where she personally announced the latest numbers....

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/12/23/hhs-enrollment-numbers-obamacare/20803089/
Two million new enrollees signed up on Healthcare.gov
About 6.4 million people chose a health plan or were automatically reenrolled on the federal site HealthCare.gov through Dec. 19, the Department of Health and Human Services said Tuesday....

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/officials-cite-progress-health-care-082349170.html
Officials cite progress on health care enrollment
Obama administration says progress made on goal of 9.1 million health insurance customers. The second sign-up season under President Barack Obama's health care law is off to a good start but has a way to go to make it a success, administration officials said Tuesday.


They sure are cheerful about making some headway towards their goal (update 2 goal!).

I saved this one for last to check on the numbers...
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http://www.wsj.com/articles/affordable-care-act-sign-ups-near-6-4-million-1419352035
Affordable Care Act Sign-Ups Near 6.4 Million
Almost 6.4 million people selected a health-care plan on the federal marketplace or were automatically re-enrolled in the first month of the Affordable Care Act’s open-enrollment season this fall, Health and Human Services Secretary Sylvia Mathews Burwell said Tuesday.

That figure compares with about 5.4 million people who had selected plans using the federal exchange in the original enrollment period of Oct. 1, 2013, through March 31, 2014.

High consumer demand in mid-December helped boost the total, which includes about 1.9 million new consumers who obtained private coverage through the federal exchange, Ms. Burwell told reporters.

She said 4.5 million people who got coverage through the federal site in 2014 were re-enrolled. Of those, more than 30% returned to the site to re-enroll while the rest were re-enrolled automatically, but she didn’t supply actual numbers....
The 5.4M of 2014 was reduced to 4.5 million re-enrolled, so it looks like just under 1 million (0.9) dropped out, were no pays or a combination of both. That's about 17%.

They might soon experience an increase there. If "more than 30%" of the 4.5M customers returned to the web to re-enroll, that leaves about 3 million that may face an increase in their portion of the monthly premium.
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http://kaiserhealthnews.org/news/as-docs-face-big-cuts-in-medicaid-pay-patients-may-pay-the-price/

As Docs Face Big Cuts In Medicaid Pay, Patients May Pay The Price

Andy Pasternak, a family doctor in Reno, Nev., has seen more than 100 new Medicaid patients this year after the state expanded the insurance program under the Affordable Care Act.

But he won’t be taking any new ones after Dec. 31. That’s when the law’s two-year pay raise for primary care doctors like him who see Medicaid patients expires, resulting in fee reductions of 43 percent on average across the country, according to the nonpartisan Urban Institute.

“I don’t want to do this,” Pasternak said about his refusal to see more Medicaid patients next year. But when the temporary pay raise goes away, he and other Nevada doctors will see their fees drop from $75 on average to less than $50 for routine office visits.

“We will lose money when they come to the office,” he said.

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State Impact Differs

Despite the concerns, most states say they’ve seen no evidence the increase has resulted in greater doctor participation — mostly because it was temporary. The bonus boosted pay rates for primary care doctors who saw Medicaid patients to the same level as they are paid by Medicare.

Because Medicaid reimbursement rates for doctors vary by state, however, the pay bump varied from no change in Alaska, Montana and North Dakota, to a 50 percent raise or more in California, New York, New Jersey, Michigan, Florida and Rhode Island, according to the Urban Institute.

Only a handful of states have acted to continue the Medicaid pay boost using their own funds, including Maryland, Alabama, Colorado, Iowa and Mississippi. Connecticut will continue the raise, but not for primary care services done in hospitals.

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Low reimbursement rates are not the only reason doctors’ avoid Medicaid. High patient no-show rates also make private physicians reluctant about participating, Duarte said.

Kaveh Safavi, global managing director of Accenture Health, said physicians have always gone in and out of the Medicaid program as a business decision. Others participate because they feel a social obligation, especially if they practice in an area where patients don’t have other health care options.

“There are a lot of dynamics at play … though historically, things have not changed [doctors’ participation] as much as when states make payment changes,” he said.

[...]

Stephen Zuckerman, senior fellow at the Urban Institute, said the states that will use their own funds to continue the fee increase were typically paying higher-than-average Medicaid rates already. But the most populous states — among them, New York, California and Illinois — are not doing that.

“It’s an open question of whether more doctors will quit Medicaid or stop seeing new Medicaid patients,” Zuckerman said. “But these cuts cannot help.”

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But a December report by the Health and Human Services’ Office of Inspector General found that about half of Medicaid doctors listed as participating in managed-care plans don’t have availability or don’t contract with the health plan at all.

Jeff Myers, president of Medicaid Health Plans of America, the trade group, said the plan’s provider directories should be updated but the findings don’t mean patients can’t get care. He pointed to federal documentation showing increasing patient satisfaction.

Other experts note that the pay raise was just one way the health law tried to ensure that newly covered Americans would have a place to get care. Funding to community health centers was also boosted by $11 billion from 2011 to 2015 to help them expand.

“The Medicaid pay boost was never meant to be a silver bullet,” said Leonardo Cuello, director of health policy at the National Health Law Program, an advocacy group for low-income Americans.

Still, the provider fee cuts have him worried. “It won’t sink the ship but … I’m concerned it will contribute to access problems.”
Now that it is passed and we can read it...

Recall all preaching how Medicaid Expansion was more FREE MONEY that States would never have to cover more than 10% of the costs????

This reads like a plan to provide something for free at a cost, as politicians representing States facing disappointed customers and doctors will not campaign on taking away the new entitlements. California will be hit the hardest.

Also note the FREE MONEY programs included helping State or local "community health centers" make it to 2015. After that the budget is NOT a federal problem.

We're sure finding lots of small plans loaded in that bigger plan!
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Dec 25 2014, 01:29 PM
It was hocus-pocus with lots of smoke & mirrors and behind the curtain was Gruber, Biden, Reid, Pelosi, and the Grand Wizard himself Obama!

We will only know the damage after obama leaves office and rides away with his hundreds of millions promised by the crony capitalists with a Hi Ho Suckers!
Demographics - Why The Great Recession Started (And Won't End Anytime Soon)

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-12-22/demographics-why-great-recession-started-and-wont-end-anytime-soon
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Dec 25 2014, 03:33 PM
Baldo
Dec 25 2014, 01:29 PM
It was hocus-pocus with lots of smoke & mirrors and behind the curtain was Gruber, Biden, Reid, Pelosi, and the Grand Wizard himself Obama!

We will only know the damage after obama leaves office and rides away with his hundreds of millions promised by the crony capitalists with a Hi Ho Suckers!
Demographics - Why The Great Recession Started (And Won't End Anytime Soon)

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-12-22/demographics-why-great-recession-started-and-wont-end-anytime-soon
That link will take some time to understand!
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http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2014/12/measuring-choice-and-competition-in-the-exchanges-still-worse-than-before-the-aca

Measuring Choice and Competition in the Exchanges: Still Worse than Before the ACA

  • My guiding principle is, and always has been, that consumers do better when there is choice and competition. That’s how the market works. Unfortunately, in 34 states, 75 percent of the insurance market is controlled by five or fewer companies. In Alabama, almost 90 percent is controlled by just one company. And without competition, the price of insurance goes up and quality goes down.
    — Barry - September 9, 2009
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2015 State-Level Choice and Competition
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The Government Accountability Office (GAO) measured insurer competition in the pre-ACA individual market using a broader methodology than Heritage’s analysis.[5] According to the GAO, 1,232 carriers sold fully insured individual-market coverage nationwide in 2013, and this analysis finds that only 310 insurers are selling coverage on the exchanges nationwide in 2015. (See Appendix Table 2.)[6] Thus, the ACA’s exchanges are 75 less competitive than the pre-ACA individual market under the GAO’s methodology.
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1,232 v. 310
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http://dailycaller.com/2014/12/24/obamacare-created-insurer-goes-under-is-taken-over-by-the-state/print/

Obamacare-Created Insurer Goes Under, Is Taken Over By The State
Posted By Sarah Hurtubise On 5:59 PM 12/24/2014

An Obamacare-created and taxpayer-funded insurance company in Iowa has been taken over by the state due to a financial crisis.

CoOportunity Health is Iowa’s insurance cooperative — a nonprofit insurance company created by the Affordable Care Act to supposedly undercut the large, for-profit insurers that Democrats castigated as “greedy” and “evil” during the debate over health care reform.

After just beginning to offer plans in 2013, the company’s already insolvent and has now been taken over by the state of Iowa, insurance commissioner Nick Gerhart announced Wednesday. CoOpportunity doesn’t have enough cash on hand to be sure it can pay claims for its 120,000 customers, if necessary. The company has only $17 million in cash and assets, Gerhart said.

The federal government’s Obamacare administrator the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services initially gave CoOportunity a $112 million loan award in Feb. 2012, but doled out an additional $32.7 million emergency award to keep the company solvent in September of this year.

That wasn’t enough to keep it in business. CoOpportunity’s management expected to receive more federal money than they did, putting them in continuing financial peril.

The nonprofit insurers were single-payer advocates’ answer to private insurance companies, which some argued hiked premiums just to pad their profits. But after its initial year of Obamacare, CoOportunity was struggling so much that it ended up having to up its premiums in Iowa by 19 percent on average.

“It’s a difficult situation,” Gerhart said. Customers’ coverage will continue for now, but Gerhart expects that most customers will switch to other insurers operating on Iowa’s and Nebraska’s Obamacare exchanges by the end of the open enrollment period on Feb. 15. It’s no longer accepting new sign-ups for coverage.

The state of Iowa, in the form of Gerhart himself, is in charge of the company now, according to Dana McNeill, a CoOpportunity vice president.

The Obamacare-created company has been bleeding cash over the past several months. Its net cash and investments fell from $121.5 million on Oct. 31, just a month after receiving a solvency loan from the Obama administration, to $17 million on Dec. 12, the Des Moines Register reports.

It’s far from the only Obamacare-created company that’s in peril. The Obama administration handed out almost $3 billion in loans to get the co-ops started in 2013. They were included in the law to placate critics on the left who advocated a public insurance option and lost.

In Sept. 2014, the administration handed out another round of solvency loans to a number of co-ops who needed help staying in business. Six state co-ops received a total of almost $268 million in extra loans to help keep the companies solvent and in business.

Even since then, the administration issued two last-minute solvency loans, which it kept quiet for weeks. Kentucky Health Cooperative received an extra $65 million emergency solvency loan days before the second open enrollment period launched and the co-ops began to sign up new customers — but CMS did not announce the loans until Dec. 15, along with another last-minute $23 million solvency loan to Wisconsin’s Common Ground Healthcare Cooperative.

Meanwhile, large, private insurance companies are doing better than ever under Obamacare’s mandate to hold health insurance and its generous subsidies to purchase exchange coverage.
Some might recall long ago I had posted an article with a co-op or two having much lower premiums AND comments in it about private companies raping the public with high premiums. Then I wondered how some taxpayer funded new startup could even figure premiums, as they sure did not have a track record that made them good critics of the private companies!

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Dec 25 2014, 03:33 PM
Baldo
Dec 25 2014, 01:29 PM
It was hocus-pocus with lots of smoke & mirrors and behind the curtain was Gruber, Biden, Reid, Pelosi, and the Grand Wizard himself Obama!

We will only know the damage after obama leaves office and rides away with his hundreds of millions promised by the crony capitalists with a Hi Ho Suckers!
Demographics - Why The Great Recession Started (And Won't End Anytime Soon)

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-12-22/demographics-why-great-recession-started-and-wont-end-anytime-soon
I'm just not following how the age demographics could create a crash at the peak he identifies. I can see how that may be the peak of growing demand in a sense, but all other results from the decline are forecasts, not a sudden cliff that hit us. Also, who knew? It was not something published by all the media as the day of doom nearing.

Maybe I am not understanding WTH he means there!
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I have to admit I am rather baffled by what is going on economically. All time highs on Wall Street, all time high in Food Stamps, all time low on Labor Participation rate. Commodity prices sinking yet some like beef are hitting highs.

So that brings us back to a doctor cost on Govt subsidies like medicaid. Sooner or later the cost of doing business collides with what you are charging. The overhead expense in a medical practice is pretty high when you cost out everything. $50 for a doctor's visit can't cover their costs.

I guess the answer is the old joke about farmers selling their crops below cost. They hope to make it up on gross sales.

I just figure with guys like Gruber designing the system there is always a hidden catch. For him it was the millions he made as a consultant. Think of the money he would have made if the states all went ahead and set up exchanges. I bet he was thinking that.

Look to the individual & group purpose and how it benefited his/group is always a good way to judge any system.

I keep waiting for the hammer to hit from somewhere
Edited by Baldo, Dec 26 2014, 04:26 PM.
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Baldo, 0% rate to banks, they lend to each other at low rates, companies keep costs low by hiring temps and offering little to no benefits. Like the sh!t bronze plan offered by my employer, after they took away our accrued paid holidays and left us with only three paid holidays - after we had to again accrue 2000 hours of paid time beginning last January. We get 4th of July, Thanksgiving and Christmas, assuming the projects we are on now are still going or they decide to roll me over to a new project. No pay increase after my year anniversary. Time and half eliminated for hours over 40 each week. I am gonna be paying $518 for Ocare in January and I have no idea who my doctor will be, no paperwork yet. Plus company offered us Delta Dental, another $30 a month. No match on 401(k) so why bother? Plus when I take time off for appointments, I don't get paid. Welcome to the current state of legal services, thanks to the proliferation of emails, electronic data storage, too many law schools, too many kids who went to law school diploma mills, and off-shoring competition.
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Oh yeah, I haven't paid my premium for December 2014 yet. Just a few more days...
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Right, more and more companies hire temps and some are even creating spinoffs who don't offer benefits. So the guys there 20 years are ABC and have benefits and stocks and the people they hire now are ABC Services have no benefits and don't watch the stock ticker during the day, because they get no stock or stock options.

Off-shoring competition is a big one. Nothing has been done about the outsourcing of jobs, it has increased. My theory is the Media is waiting for a Republican to get in there to blast them with it. They don't like the subject while the Power lies with Democrats.

Hillary took lots of fat money from Companies that decided to completely and wholly embrace outsourcing. Leaving empty buidlings and lots of people headed for welfare.
You can check it out - money flew in to old Hillary and she appeared with the leadership of these Companies .

Obama has done nothing to slow it - he has been too busy building the Government behemoth.

Joe Biden, Barack Obama, and the DEM idiots talk about Job retraining like it's some savior for 40 year olds. One will lose everything by the time they get a degree at a Community College and try to find a job for $12 an hour, if they are one of the ones that get hired.

Why hasn't the media pointed out this silly DEM talking point?

So many DEMS really want a form of Socialism. De Blasio called himself a Community Organizer and a Democratic Socialist. You don't get to be a candidate for Mayor of N.Y. without Major Democratic Party support.

I suspect part of the plan is for things to Fail - and then the contingency is Central Government and this desired form of socialism. They want to rid the country of Religion, Guns, and independent living.

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Edited by Mason, Dec 26 2014, 10:19 PM.
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