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| kbp | Dec 16 2014, 10:37 AM Post #1411 |
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Determining COSTS was his duty when the WH loaned him to Congress. |
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| kbp | Dec 16 2014, 11:12 AM Post #1412 |
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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/scotus-king-obamacare-workarounds-doomed Saving O-Care From SCOTUS Might Be A Whole Lot Harder Than It Sounds A good read on conclusions reached by a team that included 3 academics, led by a pro-Ocare law professor. |
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| Baldo | Dec 16 2014, 10:57 PM Post #1413 |
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Big Pharma has followed the only avenue left to reap billion-dollar profits: jack up the price of generics. What happens when rapacious cartels run out of billion-dollar-profit products? They jack up the price of what was previously low-cost. And why are they able to raise prices by 388% to 8,000% at will? Because they can. That's the whole point in having a cartel that is enabled and enforced by the cartel's toadies and apologists in the central state (federal government): price increases can be imposed on the government and the private sector at will. I was alerted to the extraordinary price increases in widely used generic drugs by Ishabaka (M.D.), who forwarded this fact sheet issued by the office of Senator Bernie Sanders: (Chart is reproduced below) Staggering Price Increases for Generic Drugs "Rep. Elijah E. Cummings and Senator Bernard Sanders sent letters to 14 drug manufacturers requesting information about the escalating prices of generic drugs used to treat everything from common medical conditions to life-threatening illnesses. Data was provided by the Healthcare Supply Chain Association (HSCA) on recent purchases by group purchasing organizations (GPOs) of ten generic drugs." Here are Ishabaka's comments: "I'd like to focus on the top one - doxycycline. This is a very effective antibiotic for pneumonia, bronchitis, and sexually transmitted diseases (chlamydia and gonorrhea). Throughout my medical career, it has been a cheap generic drug I used all the time. It's cost has gone up from $20 a prescription to over $1,600 a prescription in the last 12 months...snipped http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-12-16/great-generic-drug-rip I have noticed this myself. My generic medications have risen in price. Edited by Baldo, Dec 16 2014, 10:57 PM.
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| kbp | Dec 17 2014, 08:44 AM Post #1414 |
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Does not generic mean production is open to any that can produce it? |
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| kbp | Dec 17 2014, 10:22 AM Post #1415 |
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I find it odd they can tell us "2.5 million" when reporting the total enrollment, but are limited to reporting "...about half ...just over half" when telling us how many were just selecting a new plan. Evidently less than 50% were previously UNinsured. IIRC, after they deleted the dental plans from the head count, last year gave them somewhere near 6.9 million (7.3 - o.4 = 6.9) (still no finite numbers for newly insured!). Before the adjustment to the head count, the federal HHS exchanges were responsible for about 82% of the enrollment, with State exchanges contributing 18% (+/-). Taking half of the 2.5M enrollment in the HHS exchanges an increase would give us 1.25M, so if that trend holds the total with State exchanges added may be about 1.5M. Add that to the 6.9 and they'd be at about 8.4 million total enrollment. They still have people "in line" and the enrollment for coverage starting later than 1/1/15 does not end until February, IIRC. So there could be more added, but... ...Kay Statz, a health insurance broker in Ohio, said she worked until almost midnight on Monday dealing with enrollments. Clients came back to search for other options because the monthly premium for their existing plans was too expensive, she said. “They just couldn’t afford it anymore,” Statz said They can't afford the out-of-pocket is probably a better way to describe it. There's that dropped coverage issue mentioned, the head count the HHS will NOT even talk about. Recall the HHS head count so far has NOT revealed to us what the dropout rate has been. The wording in how the counts are reported has left us uncertain how many from last years enrollment were merely replacing insurance that Obamacare put out of business, though we know there was about 6 million individual coverage policies cancelled because of it. Some have argued most enrollees were new, without an explanation as to what happened to those who lost individual coverage, and a good source has estimated that only 2.5 million of the If my percentage numbers are close, the dropouts are not that bad, they get a few more enrolled, and the 2.5 million newly insured was accurate, we may only have about 4 million or so newly insured people after two years of Obamacare operations (with exception to the increase covered under the Medicaid expansion). Counting Medicaid expansion, the numbers they provided the CBO - those which included the magic formulas and descriptions from Gruber and Kerry(!) - we were to have seen a decrease in the number of UNisured of 18 million for 2015. If they lower the bar far enough and almost reach their new goal, gubermint employees and the left that creates their jobs can celebrate the good news!
Edited by kbp, Dec 17 2014, 10:27 AM.
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| kbp | Dec 17 2014, 10:49 AM Post #1416 |
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You have love "The Grey Lady," as she celebrated through the first 289 words of her 738cword article before mentioning the FUZZY fact that "About half of those selecting health plans this fall, from Nov. 15 to Dec. 12, were new customers." I can just envision them on the phone with HHS as they're playing Kool & The Gang's "Celebration"... ...There's a party goin' on right here A celebration to last throughout the years So bring your good times, and your laughter too We gonna celebrate your party with you Come on now |
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| kbp | Dec 17 2014, 11:32 AM Post #1417 |
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http://dailycaller.com/2014/12/15/president-obama-deleted-his-website-telling-american-people-they-could-keep-their-plans/print/ President Obama DELETED His Website Telling American People They Could Keep Their Plans Posted By Patrick Howley The Obama administration’s original government website promoting Obamacare has been deleted. On the last day of the Obamacare enrollment period, uncovered records reveal the deleted website assured Americans they could keep their existing health insurance plans. HealthReform.gov was the first major online messaging project of Kathleen Sebelius’ Department of Health and Human Services. It was later replaced by the glitch-ridden Obamacare enrollment website Healthcare.gov. But after Healthcare.gov went live, HealthReform.gov went dark. Thankfully, the Internet’s “WayBack Machine” gives us a shot of HealthReform.gov’s final big screaming homepage: “Keeping the Health Plan You Have…The rule announced today preserves the ability of the American people to keep their current plan if they like it.” HealthReform website screenshot ![]() The White House did not immediately return a request for comment on the deletion of HealthReform.gov. |
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| Baldo | Dec 17 2014, 03:51 PM Post #1418 |
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ObamaCare fines loom for uninsured People without insurance are running out of time to avoid the hefty ObamaCare penalties that the IRS will be handing down in 2016. Consumers face a Feb. 15, 2015, deadline to buy insurance, after which those without coverage could be hit with fines of $325 per adult or 2 percent of family income, whichever is higher. Uninsured people looking to escape the penalties are turning to the exchanges before they close, while insurance companies and tax preparers are seizing on the looming tax hit as a business opportunity. One recent mass mailer from CareFirst BlueCross BlueShield obtained by The Hill warned potential customers in the Washington, D.C., region that going without health insurance coverage would come with a steep cost. “When you don’t have health insurance ... you put your financial security at risk,” the mailer states. “That’s because under the new Affordable Care Act legislation, millions of Americans will have to pay an increased penalty tax of at least 2 percent of their income in 2015 if they go uninsured.”...snipped http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/health-reform-implementation/227364-obamacare-fines-loom-for-uninsured Thanks Obama, Reid, Pelosi, and the jackasses who voted for Obamacare. |
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| kbp | Dec 18 2014, 08:45 AM Post #1419 |
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We're getting a little information in from State exchange enrollment...I'm guessing the number of "new enrollees" cited excludes those enrolled last year who are selecting a new plan. Anyway, the numbers are not real good now. The deadline to avoid the mandate Meanwhile, I'm happy they're reporting how many have paid the premium. We still do not have real firm numbers for that with the federal exchanges. |
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| kbp | Dec 18 2014, 09:02 AM Post #1420 |
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Imagine cost being a factor! ADD: Imagine them splitting up the taxes to fool the stupid voters!!!! . Edited by kbp, Dec 18 2014, 09:07 AM.
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| kbp | Dec 18 2014, 11:15 AM Post #1421 |
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http://www.barrasso.senate.gov/public/Files/RepublicanLeadership_KingLetter_12_17_2014.pdf Senators McConnell, Cornyn, Thune, Barrasso, and Blunt wrote Treasury Secretary Jacob J. Lew and Health and Human Services Secretary Sylvia M. Burwell a letter. In it they note that the administration is acting like the King case at SCOTUS is of so little importance they did NOT inform the Obamacare enrollees of the risk it could impose on them, while that administration realized the case was enough of a risk to prvide clauses in ALL the insurance contracts with exchange insurers noting that they may pull out of the contracts if the ruling in King dries up the FREE MONEY well in federal exchanges! That's just Barry working to prevent those terrible giant insurance companies from selling plans without disclosing risks, switching rates mid-stream or cancelling your policy whenever they want, as he promised! H/T Michael Cannon . |
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| chatham | Dec 18 2014, 11:39 AM Post #1422 |
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Sounds to me that gruber is still playing with the metrics.
Edited by chatham, Dec 18 2014, 11:40 AM.
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| kbp | Dec 19 2014, 10:14 AM Post #1423 |
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Maybe we need the lawsuit to see what's in it. That might help us understand how Pelosi finds "RISK" from what is a "Baseless Lawsuit." |
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| kbp | Dec 19 2014, 11:14 AM Post #1424 |
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The report Pelosi references in her statement posted above:While the Energy and Commerce Committee seems to cover much, I'm left trying to figure out what this has to do with oversight on legislation. It looks more like a doom & gloom warning from the Democrats on that committee. Their footnotes are very revealing! The first 3 footnotes are added for editorial opinion on how legal SCOTUS taking the case may be. Next, Footnote 4 goes to the biased Kaiser for estimation of the doom. Quoting directly from their November 14, 2014 source, that doom is "Based on Congressional Budget Office estimates...that shows that 13 million Americans could lose financial assistance." They seem to be overlooking Burwell's new estimate for participation! While Burwell lowered the bar for success to 9 million on November 10, the Democrats stuck with the higher success estimate for the November 14 doom report. It's even more amazing when you consider how Burwell's announcement mad the news and this report seems to be referencing mostly the media. It's amazing how they rely on the CBO numbers, with Footnote 5 going to the April 2014 report I have had in my signature line since about the time it came out. The "amazing" part is that they cite it to identify the average annual cost of tax credits per person receiving them. The problem here is that the CBO more or less INVALIDATED every prior report on the Obamacare enrollment and cost projections because Barry ignored the law and rewrote it from the Ova Office, so, paraphrasing the CBO, there was no way to estimate those numbers. IOW we are running with our eyes closed in the dark, the reference of this Footnote is of ZERO value in preparing an estimate of doom. To compound the fuzzy math, Footnote 6 is data based on "initial Marketplace open enrollment period from October 1, 2013 through March 31, 2014, including additional special enrollment period activity reported through April 19, 2014." This data does not EXCLUDE non-pays, ONLY plan selection by zip code. The HHS will NOT tell us how many non-pays were a part of their Footnote 7 is a biased source referencing the invalidated numbers of a previous CBO report. The total value of this Energy and Commerce Committee Democrats report is about 6 degrees of fabricated data for Pelosi to base her assessment statement on. Edited by kbp, Dec 19 2014, 11:17 AM.
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| kbp | Dec 19 2014, 04:25 PM Post #1425 |
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https://cei.org/content/cei-files-lawsuit-over-obamacare-exchange-documents-0 CEI Files Lawsuit Over Obamacare Exchange Documents . |
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